Clevo W740SU 14.1"

Which really kills the deal IMHO. Add a backlit keyboard, an i7-4702MQ CPU and GT 740m it will likely cost the same and have better performance. To be honest it would be nice if they offered a non Iris Pro version. Probably cost $700. I love the brushed alumimum look.

And Meaker you've been a busy boy today again

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Yeah intel are milking it a lot on this one. Its not being used as a value propersition at all.

 

It would be perfect for a budget laptop that can game. If this laptop were priced < $800 it would sell like hotcakes no doubt.

 

Yes but intel dont want to cannibalise thier lower products with something more expensive to produce.

 

they would lose margins just for the introduction of a new gpu, they wouldnt do that. still the price of that clevo is worrying me, I thought that they would try to keep the the price range of those new cpus at 1k, if clevo is charging that much, its probably going to be a fail for iris pro

 

Guys i'm not kidding, the 4950HQ is $651 by itself with the 4850HQ being $468.

 

And this machine has 4750HQ, what does that tell you about the pricing? Completely and utterly ridiculous. Imagine paying an extra $150 to 400 extra depending on if they offered the other configurations you listed? Intel isn't doing a good thing by introducing these Iris Pro CPU's at this price class. It makes no sense, other than to say they offer it.

 

Hmm... I have been waiting as long as I can to buy a laptop for college next year trying to get something with a good mix of portability and performance. The S 15 has been the front runner forever, but I thought this might be better... But not if it's priced 200-300 more than the S 15 with ~less performance.

 

Aren't the S15 laptops like $1199 to start, even with Ivy Bridge machines and come with 640m LE graphics, probably 740m LE or 735m with next gen?

 

Wow...was really looking forward to this. Not happy with the given specs for $1100. Very disappointed, guess I'm waiting until August now for something better unless the specs and price are different for XoticPC or some other places.

 

I find this interesting, actually things should be cheaper in general terms to off set the cpu price increase

Since you have:

1) you are usually going to only have one cpu model, thus diminishing the cost of several different bulk purchases of several different cpus and diminishing the chance of having one or more skus in the list you provide to fail in the market and be left with stock

2) you have to only maintain fewer skus with that, thus your parts stock is also lower (before in the case of clevo you would have the 4-10 different cpu skus)

3) 4700MQ is 383 4750HQ is 440, its a 57 bucks increase, thus let us charge 400 more

 

I would never trust the listed Intel pricing, it's far from the truth.

 

Not even close. 1000$ is the price with everything and the 640M LE overclocks very safely to 650M+~ levels with a simple, non bios tweak.

 

that well may be for consumers, for enterprise its a different price, i.e. cheaper

 

Hey, I'm thinking of ordering one of these (will probably wait to at least see a review before ordering though). It looks like there are a few shops selling them, and I'm wondering whether the computer will vary much from shop to shop.

For example, the Clevo W740SU is available from System76 (as the Galago UltraPro) or from Mythologic ( as the Callisto 1413). The build from Mythologic seems to be a better value (about $100 less for a comprable build with 8gb ram and 120GB mSATA drive, and the Mythologic wifi card supports AC whereas the System76 wifi card does not).

It's interesting that the System76 build comes in a 3.8 pounds, whereas the Mythologic build comes in at 4.19 pounds. Possibly the laptops actually weight the same amount, just one shop is being more honest or including the power cable. Or possibly there are bigger differences between the two systems.

Is it safe to assume that both shops use the same LCD screen? The same battery?

 

Weight should be identical, especially not off by 0.4 lbs. It's the same laptop. Battery will be the same, LCD may or may not be, but considering Clevo specs it with a 1080p IPS they both will likely just take the stock machine with LCD and build it up from there.

 

Any chance others will price it differently or should we assume $1100 for the current specs at every reseller? If it might be a better deal with others I may still consider still buying, but if not it looks like I need to wait it out for the Gigabyte P34G.

 

Sager likely will be same every reseller but Sager hasn't released pricing for this one yet I don't believe.. Clevo builders will vary.

I doubt the P34G will be any cheaper though considering it comes with a GT 760m also.

 

Yes but I am fine paying a better price for P34G. 760m, backlit keyboard, better design, etc.

But it might be hard to find in USA so maybe I will have to go for MSI GE40 or something else. I hope Sager has a better price point for this W740SU.

 

I specced out the 4740SU on Mythologic for just under $1500. 16gb ram, 512gb mSATA SSD, no HD. No OS. Seems a little steep. Hope LPC and Xotic get this is stock soon so I can compare price. My current laptop just crashed on me again while I was doing word processing. Any other options if I want a 4lb laptop with 16gb ram, and at least 500gb SSD?

 

Now it is available in Germany (shipping 1-3 days). They don´t mention it to be IPS. But I guess there is no other 14" FHD besides the one with IPS.
Prices include 19% VAT.
mySN.de | SCHENKER XMG | Schenker Technologies - SCHENKER S413 Slim Notebook 35,6cm (14.0")

 

You aren't going to find a 4 lb laptop with 16 GB of RAM and a 500+GB SSD for under $1500. Infact, I'd be surprised if you could find a laptop with 16 GB RAM and 500GB SSD for under $1500 at any screen size or weight.

 

I agree with this. Even with the cheapest SSD (M4) at $380 and 16GB DDR3 at $120, that's $500 alone, so you'd have to find a sub $1000 laptop with an i7 CPU and 1080p screen to start with which is rare.

 

Still, if you don't need 16 gb ram (like probably most of the people) I don't know if it's priced so well... I mean, it's like 1200 eur here in Europe, and I'm thinking a new zenbook woud have similar specs and be even more portable

 

Heh. Where'd you get the 20k price?

I just want to give you guys a heads up on the 7260HMW - it does not work with Windows 7 as of yet. There are no drivers. If you have in fact found a way to install it on Windows 7 (default OS on Callisto) - let me know.

 

The Mythlogic team has the WHQL certified drivers for Windows 7 which they got directly from Intel engineers. There is a post in this thread where they have said so and that is why every one of their laptops is coming with 7260AC as default.

 

We got the 20K price, because thats what a BGA setting machine that can do that many BGA balls costs

And yes we have Win 7 drivers for the 7260 or else we wouldn't offer it as a choice =)

 

Win 7 drivers should be available for all later this week (source purposely undisclosed).

 

The manual is available on the Clevo website: CLEVO - Download

It has a picture of the bottom of the laptop (with 2 fans) on page 1-15, and lists i7-4950HQ as well as i7-4750HQ cpu's on page D-2. There are also some BIOS pictures.

 

Will this machine actually come with an IPS-screen? Any more information on the screen? I contacted the Norwegian reseller and they said it won't come with an IPS, thats atleast what they thought, because the information they got didnt say it had one. Here is theyr site: Multicom Arctic W740S 14" Full-HD Matt, Intel Core i7-4750HQ, 8GB, 180GB SSD, Iris Pro graphics 5200, Uten operativsystem, 1.9 kg / MULTICOM

I'm also wondering about the level of noise from this computer.. it should be low, but will it be silent?
Looking forward to see some reviews...

 

It has 2 fans, it will not be silent. Everything else is just speculation.
The URL you posted has a nice schematic of the Intel Hyperbaric cooling: http://img2.wmxstatic.com/di1.ashx/89/43460/560/0

German version (Schenker S413) is sold out now.

 

There is another German reseller. Once it started at 950 EUR there.
Tuxedo Book BU1402 - 14 Zoll matt Full-HD + Ultrabook + Intel Core i7-4750HQ + Intel Iris Pro Graphics 5200 + zwei HDD o. SSD + bis 16GB RAM

I prefer this reseller... he doesn't add too much "Corporate Design" onto the machine.

 

Got a mail from the norwegian reseller. They are stating that it comes with this panel: AUO B140HAN01.1 Overview - Panelook.com
I was hoping it would be a IPS.. but does anyone know any computer that uses this? Some tests would be nice if i was to buy.

 

That panelook webpage mentions AHVA (Advanced Hyper Viewing Angle). Isn't that AUO's version of IPS?

 

Yes. I saw that too. I didnt find any tests of it, I only found it mentioned on this prototype: AnandTech | The AMD Kabini Review: A4-5000 APU Tested
Should be a good panel i guess.
If the computer stays cool and quiet this might well be my next computer. My plan is to have two SSD's- one large one with Windows so i can run the Adobe suite and other work programs- and one with Ubuntu which i will use for everything else. I'm hoping this machine will be a very compatible with Ubuntu since system76 is marketing their similar model for it...

 

I'm new to Clevo laptops, but how are their keyboards? Good, decent, high quality? I mean no flex, long lasting(years) and nice typing experience...

Thank you in advance.

 

Has anyone received theirs yet? Or rather has anyone here taken the leap? I noticed today that Mythlogic has updated the ETA to early August. System76 is still saying mid-to-late July. Do we know when will this be available widely in the US, online and/or at brick-n-mortar store? I'm willing to go with this machine even if it doesn't have illuminated/backlit keyboard. W230ST is simply too bulky for my liking.

RJTech isn't carrying this yet. But if they do, then which one do folks here recommend? I'm able to get the config I want from Mythlogic, but RJ's barebones option sounds very tempting.

-TC

 

I'm looking forward for some reviews.

 

In the "W230ST - The 13" We've been waiting for!?" thread (page 194, post 1934), Colpolite says "I had the 1080 IPS panel on the new AW14 and it was grainy and not very bright and it was an auo panel. I fear that the AUO panel on the 13 would be the same quality so I do hope I get a CHI MEI panel instead."

So the Alienware 14 has an AUO 14" 1080p panel. Chances are it is the same as the AUO panel on the W740SU. Colpolite didn't like it, but the Alienware 14 review on the Verge says it is "the best 14-inch 1080p panel I've seen".
Opinions differ.

 

Unless the model is ready for release in the near future with a fairly fixed target date, I don't think review units will be shipped to tech journalists. I don't trust pre-order status. UX32VD-DS72 has been a pre-order on XoticPC since Feb 2013! Reviews will show up only when units are being sold and people have bought them. So far that doesn't seem to be happening. I'm beginning to feel skeptical.

If there are non-English reviews available from non-English markets, please share. My Google-foo doesn't go beyond English much.

Dear Clevo: If you're reading this, please provide availability date in US. Oh, and please consider my request for a backlit keyboard on W740SU.

-TC

 

System76 said they'll start shipping theirs on Monday! (July 22) I also heard from them more than 3 weeks ago that review units have already been sent out.

Source:
https://twitter.com/system76/status/356855063689437184

 

I contacted Mythlogic and heard similar -- it arrives there "late next week." No firm date though. Keeping fingers crossed.

In US it seems to be available through a few sellers - Mythlogic and System76 being 2 of them. What do folks here suggest? My main criteria is getting a Linux/Ubuntu compatible hardware that's powerful and durable enough to last me 3 yrs or more. My current MacBook is over 6 yrs old, and hasn't caused me any major problems. I always buy max warranty possible -- 3yrs or more. Which seller has best warranty service, and keeps their word? This will be my first time buying a non-brand machine, and this Clevo has me very interested!

 

My choice would be Mythlogic.

 

any know what kinda w charger it comes with (size) and how long does the bat last ?

 

From a System76 support rep:

As per the battery time; System76 says upto 4 hours (when running Ubuntu, according to their twitter). Mythlogic says upto 5 hours (and they offer Windows as an option). Clevo says up to 6 hours on their spec sheet (look in this thread), but that is almost certainly an absolute best case statistic... If not completely theoretical.,

 

re: battery time

As per this German reseller the battery time is:

Ca. 7h min. brightness, idle
Ca. 5,5h 2/3 brightness, Internet surfing with WLAN
Ca. 4,5h full brightness, watching a DVD

 

Found this comparison clevo w740su vs asus n550j. In german though..
Power consumption is very dissapointing, there's like 2-7W at best against a 4700+GT750.

 

The power consumption tests are very interesting there. Only a few W difference when the 750m is being loaded?

 

Yep, I don't think it would be worth it in baterry life, considering a 25-60% performance lost.
I would like to see some temperatures and noise levels..

 

The 750m does use a tiny die