Clevo W870CU

I will when the time comes... the question is will I be able to actually order those parts from dell...

 

The answer is no. Dell wants you to buy a new notebook, not upgrade the current one.

 

Could anyone PLEASE answer me this. Will the W870CU be coming out before the end of the summer??? Or is the release date more likely to be in 2010? Just an estimated answer is fine

 

Before the end of the Summer? 0% chance. Think Late Q4-Early 2010.

 

There are no plans before the end of summer. We would have heard something by now if it was going to release before the end of Summer. I think Kevin_Jack2.0 has a good estimate.

 

It should be available soon after Calpella becomes official. Calpella should be official in September so I would say this laptop will start shipping in October-November. Hope that helps.

 

where are the photos of the W860CU?

ponder...

that 17inch def looks nicer styling that the curent 17 reds a nice color but it makes it look 2 much like a MSi..

seems like clevo is loosing its distint style abit .. seems to be going in 2 many directions at once.

They should really get a universal style and brand image would help them alot.. atm they just seem focused on churning out lots of stuff cheaply... well i guess thats what they do.


The fact it only says 280M and not 280M + next gen... like it did the last fue times.. makes me suspect that Nvidia is going to go quite for a while.

Thank god! they need to make more big jumps little ones are boring.

 

I guess its good I'm waiting til October/November to buy, it'll give me time to see if there are any more announcements about this. Mark me down as "intrigued".

 

Not going to happen. It will release later in 2010.

 

The sager np8662 I just order already feels obsolete

 

It's not going to be for at least another four-to-five months. I'll admit, Clevo played a pretty dirty game releasing M860ETU six months after the M860TU, but that's business. The 260M aside, they knew Quads were coming and it wasn't until buyers started chucking in X9100's that they thought the machine could handle the heat.

I bet they'll do it to W860CU owners too. Release a version say with the 260M then, six months later - here's your W860ECU with a GT300 M series card.

Trust me, unless you get these machines as soon as they're released you'll always feel outdated by news within a couple of months of having it.

 

It will have MXM 3.0 from the beginning, so you'll be able to upgrade the GPU. I would be more concerned about the mobile i7 socket.

 

True, and though I doubt it that may not stop them from changing formats again, so soon.

You do get the feeling that there are more CPU's to be announced for the line yet?

 

Hmm, where am I going to find W860ECU money?

The early Clarksfield processors aren't enticing, and I'm wondering whether the Core i5/i7 releases in 2010 will be using the same socket. If not the W86 will be stuck with the 1.6, 1.73, and 2.0Ghz processors. On top of that, the preliminary prices on these things are astronomical.

The lure of an MXM 3.0b slot is strong, I must admit.

 

I think it will make sense to use the same socket, but it's not the socket I would be worries about, it's the chipset. The early Clarksfied use a different chipset than the 2010 ones.

 

anymore updated details on this setup ???

 

What is one's guestimate on the price?

I've been looking at getting a NP8662 or NP5797 within this month... but all this talk about destroying these models make me sad.

Would it be worth buying one of the current models? Or better to wait it out?
Will it fit within my budget of the 2 current models?

 

would be better to wait MXM 3.0 is a big reason to and the newer CPU slot is a little one ...

Depends on your budget

 

im thinking my budget to be around 1500. is that too low? looking at the 15" to be more specific ><

 

prolly will be a bit out of your reach ... can't be 100%

 

I hate to ride the first wave since while, yeah, there's the initial excitement and bragging rights, it lasts only until you hit the firstgen bugs. I try to time my purchases so they hit the midcycle...and while the 8662 is probably the last of its generation, its realworld perfomance will be more than satisfactory well until when i7M performance:cost ratios stop being stupid.

 

That's sadly true. I have an early macbook pro and its a wee bit buggy. Bragging rights are only fun for the first few weeks. Currently my mac is not keeping up with some of the newer games I'm playing and I'm looking for an upgrade.

either the 8662, a used msi725(friend is offering to sell it to me for 1100), or wait it out...

*twiddles thumbs*... what to do..

 

If you are not waiting for the mobile nehalem cpus, usb 3.0, sata-600, pcie 3.0 and next generation of video cards you will feel obsolete in a matter of months at most. All these will most likely roll out by the summer of 2010. mobile 300 cards maybe in the 2010 fall.

 

Obsolete on paper isn't obsolete in the real world.

What are you planning to run that requires absolutely bleeding edge technology?

We're not going to see another Crysis this time around. Gamer designers have learned a lesson that absolutely spectacular games have lackluster sales.

 

Hrm, only now did I read up on the W870CU (and the 860) more. It does seem like I'll have to wait and see what these babies can do. Thing is, when I do buy my next laptop, it will have to be upgradeable later on if and when the need arises. This in effect rules out the current models.

If the 2010 mobile Nehalems won't work on the same motherboards/socket as the 2009 ones (has there been anything but speculation that suggests this is the case?), that would obviously be a big downer. Of course, any sort of quad core with Hyper Threading (like these should be) should last for quite some time, and being able to switch to the next-gen (or even "third-gen", if the interface remains unchanged) graphics cards is more important. But even so, I'd much prefer having both upgrade options.

 

any new news on the w870cu? Read somewhere that the mobile i7 will be released sometime this month. Hoping that this baby gets released before the end of the year.

 

For those worrying about unused Cores, don't forget that Core i7 will use as few or as many cores as it needs to at what ever clock rate it can (sort of). If an application or game is only using 2 Cores, it will downclock or disable the other two and increase the remaining clock rates.

 

Sure, here it goes:
https://web.eurocom.com/EC/ec_model_config1(1,208,0)

 

2.0 ghz I7? Doesn't that seem underpowered? Will this play Crysis for example?

 

Great, here we go again. Your question is the same question users asked back in the Pentium 4 vs Pentium M days. Raw clock speed isn't everything.

 

So explain why? I'm not an expert so I just look at the numbers. Also, when you look at game requirements, for example Empire Total War, the sys req. is 2.4 ghz. How would an i7 1.7ghz compare?

 

Nehalem is more efficient compared to Penryn. You will be getting more instructions processed per clock cycle.

 

So...and bear with me here...you're saying the 1.7 ghz I7 is capable of running all modern games? And is reasonably future proof? I ask because I'm looking to buy a new laptop after several years of suffering without new games...so if I spend the cash, I'd like to feel comfortable that my laptop has the ability to run any modern games for at least 2 years..

What would be the comparison for the 1.7 I7 in a dual core for example?

 

It's a freaking i7 grasshopper. Just know that it'll run anything, just as well as any of the mobile dual core processors.

 

Cool! It has 2 hdd bays

 

lol thanks...I'm just nervous..I want to make sure when I lay down the cash it's capable of everything I want it to...1.7 just seems low that's all. If you just took the number and applied it to Mass Effect for example, it would be too low...

 

Forget about the clock speeds - the "recommended" numbers you find on games and other software is getting obsolete. Do you think a Pentium lll with a clock speed of let's say 4Ghz would outperform this i7? I think not.

 

I realize that...so you're saying that as I7s come out, the advertised recommended clock speeds for games will decrease?

 

I'm sure game and software manufacturers will catch up, some day ...
They will allways be lagging, though - they have to take into account what sort of hardware most people have, and will never be right at the cutting egde of technology - they can't.
Ideally, they would have to state recommended numbers for each processor architecture in existence, Penryn, Nehalem, Calpella ... and even older stuff. I'm sorry I have not been following AMD and what they call their processors, but numbers for them would have to be stated on the box too.

They don't. That's why you find the words "or equivalent" right next to the recommended.

 

dont forget that the mobile i7's have turboboost, which can increase the clockspeed depending on the application.

 

All i7's has the ability to overclock themselves. Or downclock.

 

does the cpu inside the d900f has this ability to overclock itself ???

 

It can using software, as Gophn demonstrated earlier.

 

No, it's part of the i7's Speedstep technology. It can increase it's clock multiplier if needed - so a core on the i7 920, for example, can go above it's 2.66 Ghz "normal" clock speed. This happens if a core runs at 100%, AND the temperature is below a certain treshold. It can even happen with several cores at the same time, if the conditions are right. I have never seen this myself, using monitoring hardware, but I have seen 1 core clock to 2.8 Ghz. I think it can clock even more than that, though I have not been able to see it, yet.

 

Did you miss Gophn's topic on clocking his i7 to ~4Ghz, using software?

 

Yes, I did. Overclocking does not really interest me. I'm perfectly happy with stock.
And anyway, I am not talking about active overclocking - I am talking about the i7's ability to "overclock" itself.
There's a difference. All I'm saying is that Intel says the i7's do this, and I have been able to verify that myself, partially at least.

 

So, can we state definitively that the W860CU (with a 1.7 ghz) can play any modern game high to mid level resolution? What about in 2 years?

 

Yes and yes.

 

Awesome...Guess this laptop is the one to plunk the cash down for..

 

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