App named Intel Power Gadget.
I sold P375SM a long time ago. The only thing I have left is this screenshot:
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6700K instead of 6820HK and 53°C max? Post screenshot during Cinebench run, not after.
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poprostujakub Notebook Consultant
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Sorry, Wasn't intended that you should show results. It was for @Legion343 as this is was what you asked for. I haven't 6700K anymore. But the values is still correct for Skylake LGA. But I don't think you will see the 6820HK Trash run 4.3GHz with 64W Cpu Package Power in Cinebench R15 and with correct scores for the clocks.
FYI. My old [email protected] in Cinebench was more like +98w. Watt will increase a lot with increaded clocks.
Edit. Your Cinebench score with 4.3GHz on Haswell Mobile is all too low. Should be more like +865cb. Most likely, too low Core voltage.Last edited: Jan 23, 2018Ashtrix likes this. -
poprostujakub Notebook Consultant
You did not take into account one fact: power consumption rises with temperature (because of I2R losses). So this 6700K on 90°C will consume 120W+.
My 4900MQ worked at 4,2GHz on thermal throttling edge. P375SM CPU cooling can dissipate continously max. 70W, not 100W like in that case.Papusan likes this. -
I'm fully aware that the power consumption will rises with temperature. But not dramatically with low clocks as 4.3GHz on 6700K. See also... No in HELL the 6820hk running 4.3GHz will need only 64W in Cinebench. Both due temp and worse binning(need higher voltage).Ashtrix likes this.
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poprostujakub Notebook Consultant
My (not dellided) 6700K. 105W@4,5GHz
After Kaby Lake-H release, we will be witnesses a lot of threads about TDP throttling, current throttling, thermal throttling and Intel-only-knows-throttling in these new BGA jokebooks. A real power need real power! -
Ok Here is mine during CB (more than short 32M Ts Bench). I plan to fight with these temps with CLU after i will send my Clevo to service (display swap)
My 4,1 GHz
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poprostujakub Notebook Consultant
75W@4,1GHz, very similar to my 72W@4,1GHz (I have 78°C max., so CPU internal connections have lower resistance).
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Meaker@Sager Company Representative
You will only see significant power differences with 15-20c drops in temperatures.
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Hasee Z7M-CP7GT with i7-8750H
http://tieba.baidu.com/p/5537745402
http://www.g.com.cn/digital/28504879/
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Laptop Gaming ASUS ROG G703GI-E5006T (Coffee Lake)
http://hangchinhhieu.vn/san-pham/asus-rog-g703gi-e5006t-13053-6779
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Meaker@Sager Company Representative
I don't think that last machine is a Clevo somehow
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It's just the updated version of this one: https://noteb.com/?model/model.php?conf=17221788465656000512&ex=USD
Just a different CPU.
Just need to update the display from TN to IPS.
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you are right
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4000$ for that asus . Holy crap !
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https://videocardz.com/75073/intel-core-i9-8950hk-spotted
may be that ms-1816 can be the new 18" msi gtLast edited: Feb 13, 2018 -
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Vistar Shook Notebook Deity
Turbo clock one core?
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Just imagine how much efficient the Intel's cannonlake would be! 10nm CPUs! Hell yeah!
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14 inch Elitebook Jokebook premium convertibles – with Coffee Lake Hexa Core CPUs?
6 cores in a 14 inches chassis.
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Meaker@Sager Company Representative
If it's a 45W TDP and there is no dGPU that's actually not too difficult to do with some thought behind it.
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I think you misread; I was saying I thought there is no way in hell there's a 33% increase in power efficiency from a simple process tweak on a process that's been tweaked twice already. That kind of leap is seen with a node shrink.
In other words those two extra cores will cost power, or frequency.
I've since seen an Intel chart reproduced on chipwiki showing a claimed 26% increased performance for same power or 52% less power for same performance on coffee lake 14nm VS broadwell 14nm at 0.7V, an eyeball estimate on that chart suggests ~35% lower power at same performance of cfl 14nm vs Kabylake 14nm, but that's not at 1.1-1.3V which is where the H chips will end up
The physics score from that 3dmark would be interesting to know but I can't find it.
Anyway with the latest Intel roadmap not mentioning Icelake (10nm octocore) at all, maybe we won't see it until next year... Anyway we'll see soon how Cannonlake (low power 10nm) goes as they're releasing soon. But rumours are still that Intel's 10nm is repeating its 14nm history... First gen late and underwhelming. Also there's the specter/meltdown fixes which may have needed some redesign work = delayLast edited: Feb 15, 2018raz8020 and Vistar Shook like this. -
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Undervolting and power tweaking can go a long way on mobile chips though, obviously a 6 core sustained loads are going to be troublesome but that's what our desktop series are for. -
Looking forward to the p650 refresh . Or maybe a whole new chassis ?
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The future is bright, that's what they always say ironically. 6 cores are essentially where 4 cores were in the early days of the phenom/q6600 eras. Under utilized and only usually used by prosumers. It'll be a while before non-prosumer products take advantage of these cores.
Imagine my distress upon seeing that total war Attila only uses 1 CPU core out of 8, having come out in 2015.hmscott likes this. -
Meaker@Sager Company Representative
Writing code for proper multi threading is tricky, though not partitioning off at least some aspects to another core is getting quite lazy.
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For 99,9% this will be smaller PA70 like this always have been...
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I love the repliers who keep up the facade that the 1710 gets "crazy hot" with the WASD keys. I replied to his assertions
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If clevo release something that thin and light , hope they can design it as an unibody, sleek machine . I , however people say , like the unibody design of razer and macbook pro
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The guy I quoted had a link to a review
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Schen...17-Clevo-PA71HS-G-Laptop-Review.284844.0.html
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That's only a 7700HQ CPU, not even able to OC, yet it's putting out a lot heat right where you would hold your hand for long periods. Look at the thermal images, the hottest point is right under WASD:
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Meaker@Sager Company Representative
The keys themselves are cool though, you don't touch the material between them.
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The heat radiates up into your hand, the caps look cooler but it's still gonna radiate heat into your fingers / hand, and get sweaty.
That's probably what all those "kid's" were complaining about, with their sensitive young skin, we probably wouldn't feel it...
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I know exactly what they're talking about. If you load the CPU and have it laying flat on a hard surface, on Auto fan, the WASD keys can get noticeably warm. Lift the rear on a big rubber eraser, or use it on a cooler, and those keys will be mildly warm.
Do a repaste, drop voltage by -.125v, and run elevated, with a running cooler, and the keys will be barely warm, if that.
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With stock a repaste with good stuff + Uv fixes this.
However if you have 4 GHz HK things can be a bit uncomfortablehmscott likes this. -
"Dear Clevo, fix the fans or I will not be your fan anymore" ik ik lame
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Those heatmaps are when running Prime95 and Furmark simultaneously, if anyone has their left hand on the WSAD area when doing that for an extended period of time then they've probably fallen asleep! Real world usage isn't represented in those heatmaps.
Plus we repaste every laptop depending on the customer,s configuration choice, only undervolting would lower the temps further.
Moving the source of the heat is a valid argument though.Last edited: Mar 16, 2018B0B, Kurgo, raz8020 and 1 other person like this. -
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Did they change the design a bit from current models? I don't remember the current model #
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Those scores seem a bit off. I doubt the 8750H will be that much faster than the 7700K. In theory it should be 20% faster.
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Or in best case, 10% faster.
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Why did they change the perfect simple p650 design with excellent powerport placement on the backsite ? I mean everybody over 12 years age will blame themself to the bones showing this new blingy gamy design in public QQ
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That's the same design of the n850hk1
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This seems an upgraded p955
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2 grand for a 1070 ... I saw a gtx 1080 120hz gsync 7700HQ laptop for $1899 free ship no tax a couple weeks ago... would rather just do that personally.Kurgo likes this.
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Not even that, it's a max Q 1070 so it's really more of a 1060. And considering that the starting price is 1950$...I mean, usually the starting configuration has A LOT of stuff missing, this costs a lot of money for what it offers.
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Oops, hope DS don't get in trouble because techpowerup published the press release before the NDA is clear!Vistar Shook and sicily428 like this.
Clevos with new 6-core Intel Mobile Cpus
Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by sicily428, Nov 24, 2017.
