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    Clevos with new 6-core Intel Mobile Cpus

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by sicily428, Nov 24, 2017.

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    It's still up for sale: https://noteb.com/?model/model.php?conf=4963788654407148025_1566&ex=USD , you can get it on Amazon.
    Has rather poor processor cooling, but the GPU cooling seems to be ok.
     
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    @XMG
    Why not an upgraded p650?
     
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    that asus has really bad scores in 3dmark firestrike

    Clevo p751tm 3DMark Fire Strike Score 18551 points https://www.notebookcheck.net/Euroco....281388.0.html


    Clevo P775TM1-G 3DMark Fire Strike Score 17997 points https://www.notebookcheck.net/Schenk....288972.0.html


    MSI 16L13/Eurocom Tornado F5 3DMark Fire Strike Score 15116 points https://www.notebookcheck.net/Euroco....206710.0.html


    Asus G703vi 3DMark Fire Strike Score 17502 points https://www.notebookcheck.net/Asus-R....287134.0.html


    AW 17R4 3DMark Fire Strike Score 16931 points https://www.notebookcheck.net/Alienw....214918.0.html


    MSI GT73VR 7RF 3DMark Fire Strike Score 16478 points https://www.notebookcheck.net/MSI-GT....189710.0.html


    MSI GT75VR 7RF 3DMark Fire Strike Score 15851 points https://www.notebookcheck.net/MSI-GT....240904.0.html


    Hp Omen X 17 (2016) 3DMark Fire Strike Score 15409 points https://www.notebookcheck.net/HP-Ome....280650.0.html


    Razer Blade Pro 2017 3DMark Fire Strike Score 14825 points https://www.notebookcheck.net/Razer-....253308.0.html


    AW 15 R3 (Gtx1080 max-q) 3DMark Fire Strike Score 14631 points https://www.notebookcheck.net/Alienw....261176.0.html


    Asus GL702VI 3DMark Fire Strike Score 14301 points https://www.notebookcheck.net/Asus-R....281912.0.html
     
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    It's hard to tell from one review, but I am not surprised given the throttling on their processor. If you get the GL702VI you need to redo the thermal paste on the processor.
     
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    Clevo is not updating this model......that's all I can say.
     
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    that's a really good laptop so I hope they will refresh the case and also the cpu :(

    may be a PA60?
     
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    Looks like they aren't refreshing the CPU for that model, which leads me to believe that they will update the chassis with Coffee Lake and Ampere/Turing/whatever later this year. If the case is to my liking, I will buy it on day one, just like I did the p650 when Pascal released. Just hoping that they do away with the side exhaust for the CPU and have all air exhaust from the rear of the machine. Otherwise, my p650 has been nearly perfect since September 2016.
     
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    PA6x/PA7x suppose to be the P650 2.0 but its 10 steps backwards instead of 1 forward.
     
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    Can you elaborate? I’m quite curious.
     
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    I thought those were the p950? Surely they will continue to produce a model that bridges the gap between thin/light and desktop replacement. Although I’m not privy to the sales numbers for p650, if the activity on these forums are any indication, and my reseller (LPC) was correct, that model was extremely popular, one of the best selling of all time.

    I’m hanging onto hope that they are redesigning the case for the new Nvidia release later this year.
     
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    Is the 775 or 870 series getting an update? Is the 8700B (65W TDP 4.6ghz, 12M cache) going to make an appearance?
    If all that happens is the 6, 7, and 8 stay the same and get 8xxx CPUs, then it looks like a pass for this "generation" of Clevo machines.
     
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    p750, p775 and p870 have been upgraded in november with Intel 6-cores Coffee lake cpus. Check for TMs
     
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    So that's a no, literally just a firmware update and chip swap in for the i8s. That's all right, we know what we're getting, doesn't take much work, and firmware updates should come quickly.

    If only we could get some insight into cannonlake . . .
    Guess that will have to wait till December or later.
     
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    What are you talking about?
    new motherboatds Z370s, new cpus i5-8400/i5-8600k/i7-8700/i7-8700k, new cooling systems for p775 and p870. All these upgrades came out in november.

    Edit
    if you need an Intel 8-cores cpu, that will require a new motherboard z390.
     
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    Cmon clevo all i want is your best notebook p650 with bigger battery and 8750h i insta buy it.
     
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    I hope they will refresh that model too but at the moment p650 seems to be stopped
     
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    One of the bigger things was optimus switching.... ;)
     
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    If indeed they are discontinuing the model, they are most likely working on a newer model, since it is hard to believe they will ditch the highly lucrative thin and light category.

    Enviado de meu Pixel 2 usando Tapatalk
     
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    not optimus, but myhybrid

    any difference between the two?
     
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    The n850ep6 caught my attention, 144hz ips panel, coffee lake cpu, 16gb ram and a 1060 for $1300 sounds excellent.
    Curious how cooling would be though.
     
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    Not stopped, just not being updated :) :



     
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    Same thing for the p640?
     
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    8750H a noticible upgrade from a 7700HQ?
     
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    2 more cores 4 more threats higher frequency and 50% higher scores in benchmarks using same TDP decide for yourself
     
    KnopaDoni, Apr 7, 2018
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    Sorry I meant for games, I know it's alot better for productivity
     
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    See the reviews of the 7700k Vs 8700k to see how 6 cores fares Vs 4 cores.
     
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    Or you could just search for hyper threading and gaming!

    Last time I searched, there were under 10 titles that properly used more than 4 cores and I don't think the list has extended much.

    Here's a starting point (these are just from the top of my head... if anyone knows more, pls. add them to the list or maybe someone should make a separate thread for these):

    Ashes of the Singularity
    Crysis 3
    Rise of the Tomb Raider
    The Witcher 3
    BF1
    Watch Dogs 2
    Overwatch
    Kingdom Come Deliverance
     
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    This looks like an MSI gs65 changed a little bit like medion did years ago with their erazer laptops msi base and some changes in designes by themself--
    Edit:
    This thing is actually way better than msi.. Mechanical Keyboard on bezelles notebook ports and exhaust on the backsite wow..
     
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    I would say, it is probably a new clevo chassis, them getting into the slim bezels game.
     
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    I thought Medion were made by Quanta. At least I know now they are made by Quanta.
     
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    This is not a Clevo barebone or Quanta because serial numbers are not matching their name patterns. It is not clear whom it is but with one NBR user help we saw that the trace is going among other things to TongFang (China ODM) .
     
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    Thanks! Never heard about them
     
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    Yup ^^^^^ Correct. Mechanical keyboards aren't my thing on laptops, but it's a pretty nice quality chassis!
     
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    Well i had an occasion to test Mechanical KB in Lenovo Y9XX and HP Omen X (better than Lenovo in my opinion). Both are better than one from this barebone but on the other hand are about twice more expensive...
     
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    There is noway i can get this thing with qwertz layout and acceptable guarantee right?
    Have you ever seen and tested it?
     
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    Did you test one from Illegear?



    You'll be able to get one from us with standard 24 month full warranty and multiple language keyboard layouts (including of course qwertz)! We haven't launched it quite yet, probably a couple of weeks away. All tested, but we just received a new mass production model to test so I can only report on samples so far - not really fair to give those details out as ther're generally not the same as mass production samples. I should be able to post some more information in a few weeks!

    Edit - should have mentioned that our version is with GTX 1060, sand blasted rather than brushed aluminium chassis and slightly different keys which are flatter than the original versions and more comfortable to use :)
     
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    what's the name of the barebone? tongefeng .....?
     
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    47Whr battery, what are we? Beasts?
     
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    There are different versions of the chassis.......yes, cryptic, but I can't say more right now!
     
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    Yeah if they could offer a bigger battery in the space of the 2.5" HD, then it is promising, especially since Clevo hasn't been willing to do the same. The thin and light market is demanding, where consumers expect it all, good performance, good battery life and on top of that, good thermals....crazy, I know.

    Enviado de meu Pixel 2 usando Tapatalk
     
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    47wh is very very low. My dell 7370 has 43 with Core-m7 and no dedicated GPU and it can't get over 6h with normal surfing usage -.-. 47wh on 8750h and Gtx1060 is like 20m runtime ?
     
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