$600 for a CPU that is welded to the motherboard. What a deal. How could anyone pass that up? My friends on Facebook and Snapchat told me that's the best thing to get and they know.
Since it costs more, it HAS TO BE better than a $400 8700K, right? I mean, it's called an i9 and all that, plus it costs more. It just has to be better.![]()
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Seems you forgot the new Intel feature Thermal Velocity Boost (TVB). Aka the major change vs. Skylake and Kaby Hk processors. Of course this have an value
Probably very useful if you are an heavy Google user.
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While I appreciate that people have the right to make what I would call mistakes and buy what I wouldn't, I also have the right to be annoyed when as the majority of the market, consumer behaviour starts to impact the choices I have.
When company management see Apple with more cash than they know what to do with, when their product pipeline includes deliberate efforts to make their products unrepairable, when their core customers are as fundamentalist and tribal as any religious crusaders throughout history when it comes to acknowledging even simple faults, when while winning environmentalism awards they are doing crazy things like riveting a failure prone keyboard to the chassis leading to God knows how much added e-waste.
(As in, they are so secretive nobody except someone watching everything, everywhere, would be able to know how many extra throwaway complete units are generated when the Louis Rossmans of this world could otherwise easily diagnose and repair one failed component.)
So in this age ruled by cognitive dissonance, yes I do think I am doing the environment a favour by buying the biggest guzzlerest heaviest chunkiest least energy efficient product on the market
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TVB looks interesting but look at this statement from Intel presentation which i have added to my "quick glance at 8th H series gen" https://pclab.pl/art77505.html
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The problem is that laptops with 8th gen can barely achieve bellow 50 deg. on stock...
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You will get that +peak extra clock speed if you lets say perform a Google search
Will probably work on some models
if the fans is tuned and is able to kick in the correct time
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I'd expect most of them to idle around 50°C with the fans running full blast. Maybe not the thick MSI 17-incher, but I do not expect to see any of the lesser BGA notebooks that have the mobile i9 manage things that gracefully.
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TVB sux.
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I can't help but think it's a gimmick to help with marketing based on the maximum boost clock.
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Meaker@Sager Company Representative
The real test of the chips for tweakers is how well binned they are. That matters the most.
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Schenker XMG A517 (Clevo N850EP6) Laptop Review @XMG
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No, unless the user has an unlocked BIOS that allows for setting Thermal Velocity Boost Clipping.
TVB clipping is also triggered at ~50 degrees Celsius, so unless you can maintain that mobile processor UNDER 50 degrees Celsius in an average workload, you won't benefit much from it.
On the unlocked Eurocom Q6 BIOS, this setting also seems to work in conjunction with another setting termed as Ring Down Bin.
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Embrace the beast that claws its' way beneath the skin.
Set it free, and let your hate for BGA trash shine forth.
Open your eyes.
You cannot resist.
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Assuming you can get one. And get it in time, even.
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What you're feeling right now - it's not hope. It's hatred, purified. Power, beneath a mighty doom. Loss to the cognitive dissonance on the abhorrence of BGA trash.
Open your eyes, friend. See what we see. Feel what we feel.
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All it is for really is maximum responsiveness during desktop usage, it's not for sustained loads at all.
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Hold up: What do these (!) around the core temperatures (see Youtube screenshots) mean?
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So according to this thread, it means a previous overheating had been detected.
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Clevos with new 6-core Intel Mobile Cpus
Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by sicily428, Nov 24, 2017.
