EUROCOM M980NU Preorder!!!

Did everyone forget already how much problems the W90 has? And almost everyone here on NB who has one sent theirs back?

 

Notes....

- Intel is releasing another mobile C2D refresh in the next quarter, dubbed 'Montevina Plus', and the high-end processors will be over 3Ghz. Calpella is probably going to be pushed back even further.

-M980NU is said to be using MXM 3.0, so future cards upgrades won't be an issue.

 

well, by now the asus is still not running without problems, and therefor its quite useless to pay few k for a paperwight -except if one might enjoy having a personal relation to their asus-technican or find some fun in the rma-process. and so from my point of view i dont save a few grand by buying an asus - id waste some!

as for the upgrade: afaik there is no mobile i7 available, and no nb announced for a mobile i7 cpu aswell, but pls cmiiw. what i have heared there will be no refresh with a desktop i7 at all. and i personaly dont like desktop cpus in a notebook for their thermal behavior and their power consumption.

i dont say, the d900f is a bad machine, it depends on your needs.
i d like the 18" screen, as i often like to watch movies on the nb, and thats why i prefer the bigger screen. and while playing in native resolution @1920 i need much gpu-power - thats why i need a sli or xfire - much more than i need cpu-power! a qx9300 should deliver more than enough data, to use this beast as a good gaming machine for the next 1.5 years. at least. so in my opinion - and considered my needs - i will prefer the m98 over the d900f. its not to say one is bad or better then the other -theyre just different, and one will have to consider his demands before making his buying decision.

but its great, that everyone can find a suitable machine for himself. a cheap but (yet) problematic asus, the d900f - with good upgradability but no sli, and the m98 with big screen and sli. make your choice

just my 2ct.

//oh, and as you mentioned the ram: the asus w90 just has 6gb ddr2@800mhz while the m98 supports 8gb ddr3@1333mhz ...

 

there will always be new technology just around the corner, and you will never find the perfect time to buy and keep waiting forever

 

You're talking about Striker, did you
Oh strikerrrrrr....., someone wants to pick a fight with you here
*Joking*

I like desktop CPU because it's cheaper than socket P mobile CPU.
And desktop CPU have that "protection" while the core in mobile CPU is naked.

Then we'll just have to wait for Clevo D901F with Core i7 and SLI

Btw, doesn't Asus W90 use 3x2GB RAM configuration?
Which means, you can upgrade it to 12GB?

 

Wait! Does this mean my M570ETU won't support anything more than the 280M GTX without a motherboard upgrade?

 

i never heard about 'Montevina Plus'. let me search in the internet...

does any GTX200 has MXM 3.0? those GPU for 8662 as well as for 5797 will be 2.1 ...

 

xor01 12GB DDR2 800mhz is not better then 8GB DDR3 1333mhz

 

starche_old yes make a little research you maybe learn something

 

as far as I know even Larrabee will use LGA1366 and in this case absence on mobile CPU for D900 is not a case - it's not using it

One of my previous lappies used P4 3GHz and i know what u r talking about

 

I can tell a bit about Montevina plus. It's actually no big deal.
P9700 the same as P9500 or P9600 but at 2.8 Ghz (I want one)
T9900 the same as the T9800 but at 3 Ghz.
And there was another one I think P8800 at 2.66 Ghz. All due to be released in June I think.

Ahh and probably the Q9200 as well that we've seen here on the forum. And why not maybe an even more powerful Quad .

 

there's danger but looks i know when i'll next after 8662 lappy - looks loki Christmas time

 

I know that and that's not my point.

The poster compared the max RAM 6GB DDR2 in W90 with 8GB DDR3 in M980NU.
IIRC, Asus use 3x2GB, so the max RAM should be 12GB (like in D900F).

 

shhhhht!! Let sleeping dogs lie.

afaik this will not be released, not in the near future, as the thermal design cant handle sli.

iirc asus allows only 6 gb, at least now.

 

exactly, man...

 

Did everyone forget already how much problems the W90 has? And almost everyone here on NB who has one sent theirs back??

 

Youre not talking bout me, are ya?

 

@$*#%^% - my exact feelings right now.

I've liked Clevo for the ability to upgrade, the easiness to do it, it feels just as easy to deal with the hardware part as with a desktop. Instead of realesing different MXM upgrades they should start selling mobile GPUs in shops worldwide just like they do with desktop ones.

 

it's really nothing to blame Clevo. not them introducing new MXM, not them producing GPU, they have just to follow... But the opportunity to upgrade laptop, what Clevo gives, is great, i really appreciate it. it's necessary just to choose the right platform, which will be upgradable in future. that's i'm trying to tell to GanGstaOne

when u'll ready, you can sell your laptop on ebay and get new one. that's all u can do, sorry...

 

Nah I'm not pointing at you by no means Minime. There are so much W90 owners who have problems with their systems it would be to hard to remember them all just by memory. When I checked the W90 owners lounge, it seems like everyone had huge problems with the W90 and pretty much all the owners retured theirs and shipped it back to get a new one. As far as I know, that system has lots of problems at the moment and the owners aern't happy with the W90.

 

Ah cmon, the GTX 280M and GTX 260M aren't even out yet still on pre-order and some of you are already thinking about the next gen cards that may not be supported on your lappy lol

 

what kind of problem it got? could write it here or give a likn?

the problem is that my friend want to get it and i'd like to avoid his from mistake

 

when my daughter started to walk i told he: "look 2-3-4 step ahead, but not under your feet. this will help u to predict the problems"

I believe this can easily used when u selecting a laptop

 

Yes, Nvidia even lists them as MXM 3.0, but ODMs like Clevo can still choose to use 2.1 variants, as is the case with the M860TU and M570TU.

ATi also has available MXM 3.0 and 2.1 versions of the 4800 series cards.

 

Are you serious Starche? You havent been following the W90 owners thread? Go read it, start from page 1 and go through everything. Most problems are lock ups (ALMOST ALL THE SYSTEMS LOCK UP) every so often so system is un-usable, blue/bsod, only single gpu's running instead of 2 etc... just to name a few. The fact that Asus couldn't help them and the only soulution was to ship their systems back says a lot. I know they had a new bios upgrade recently but It didnt solve the problems. Havent checked the W90 owners thread lately tho.

 

Asus W90 problems are both in the BIOS and in the ATI driver...

CMIIW...

 

real minime care to tell Starche the reason why you had to ship yours back? I know even the first owner Striker shipped his back also and so did 95% of the W90 owners.

 

Yeah and its sad that W90 owners can't be helped but rather have to send their systems back. Technical support couldn't do ANYTHING to help them, NOTHING.

 

I see, so there might still be hope.

 

Kevin_Jack2.0
i did not know that... thanks.

firstn20
OK, i'll check there

 

Guys,

Please stay on topic...this thread is not for comparing W90 to the Clevo d90x/M570xx.

 

True, but the comparison is going to be inevitable seeing that it's the only other notebook that compares well with it (18.4 inch gaming notebook with more than 1 GPU).

 

That means there is hope for ATI cards in Clevo units
Really looking forward for this.

Btw, why on earth Clevo hasn't released any laptop with AMD Phenom X4 and ATI 4870 CrossFireX anyway?

 

for me personally absence of AMD & ATI in Clevo laptops is good sign

 

Well, it's for the sake of competition mate
If Clevo produce AMD + ATI, we can expect price drop in Intel + Nvidia laptops

 

well, well, well... i don't think so

for me as a customer is way better when vendor has 3-5 platforms, but well designed rather then 7-10, but "so-so" like the story with Asus & W90...

 

well, i like what MSI doing.
they have 2 ultimate gaming, 1 with ATI and 1 with Nvidia.
It's a win-win solution, as to gain wider marketshare

ofcourse that doesn't mean I want Clevo to produce like 5 ATI platforms and 5 Nvidia platforms. not like that at all.

D900x series with AMD Phenom X4 and ATI HD 4870 CrossfireX, now this is what I want to see

 

Well like I said before, people assume that the Clevo will be of much higher quality than the Asus but WE DON"T KNOW THAT YET BECAUSE IT HASENT BEEN RELEASED YET! and YES there is the possibility that it WONT be better quality than the Asus. BTW Clevo is not the end all of quality, don't forget this is the same company who has the D900K which has had some defective motherboard issues, M860 models with a hot hard drive problem which to this day still hasn't been corrected, RU models with defective audio jacks, TU models that are having their fair share of problems from what I've been reading in the forums, and Clevo is known to ship grainy and dim low quality screens with their laptops and don't even have a config option of LED back lit screens yet?!, not to mention their lack of overclock support on some models has been disappointing to say the least, Asus is also having problems with the W90 but im sure they will fix them pretty soon, as they appear to be mostly software incompatibilities.

As for upgradability the only advantage the Clevo will have is support for MXM 3.0b which will (probably) allow for an upgrade to the mobile GT212/GT300 when its released, but it's not a guarantee because maybe by then Clevo will have a new model to sell that card with, and may not give BIOS support to the M98 "so it wont hurt the sales of their newer models". As for the rest like ram, hard drive, processor, they are also upgradable on the Asus as they would be on the M98.

I know you are a fan of Clevo, so am I, but, you can't ignore the fact that Clevo isn't perfect, to me the only thing that made them better than the competition and made me stick with them was that they had good build quality and lower prices than the competition, if they cannot beat Asus's price point and don't support overclocking then Clevo will lose some customers to Asus in the 18.4" market.

 

That would be a sweet rig, especially with support for overclocking

 

yeah, and alot cheaper too while still packing performance

Buy Phenom X3 and unlock it into Phenom X4

 

Actually Clevo has made 19" and 20" laptops before, i.e M590K and M590KE. The only reason why this is a 18.4" is because of LCD manufacturers.

As for Clevo being mid-uber high, they also make a large variety of other models, it's just that the attention is almost always on their higher end units. I do not know which units have the highest sales, and I highly doubt you do either (No offense to you, of course).

 

Hmm, so you can see the future eh?

 

Clevo can't afford to sell at that price point. Asus is clearly subsidizing something to be around $2k.

 

I always wondered how Asus is managing to do this. I remember when they first unveiled the G70 with like a $3000 price tag. Relatively, it's price/performance ratio was lulzable. Now, their latest products seem to have a much better price/performance ratio when compared to the competition.

I honestly don't think that the M980Nu will be priced at what Eurocom is pricing it at. I think it's just Eurocom itching for attention like when they got people all excited over this nvidia "G280" with GDDR5 memory. It should be somewhat reasonable, and even if it does end up a good chunk higher than its main competitor, has some advantages; it can hold 3 hard drives and uses a RGB-LED screen, along with Hybrid SLi. Not a big fan of the keyboard at all. I really thought it was going to be like what was shown in the early snapshots of it.

 

that price page isn't setup correctly to begin with (giving them the benefit of the doubt) if that was the case. i would just grab the qx9300 at 600 bucks from them and go build my own w90 somewhere else.
also...cant see paying 303 to 350 bucks for a 7200 rpm drive when they cost about 70 to 80 bucks max.

so if i we're you..i would not pre order till they fix it.

 

Given this is Eurocom, the complaints about pricing are completly unreasonable.

This is not Sager, this is Eurocom.

Take this config of the D901c for example:

Q9650
8GB RAM
Dual 9800m GTX
1.5TB HDD

etc.

It costs 4.2K @ Xotic and 7.2K @ Eurocom. Big difference.

 

may be some1 can PM to 1 of Justins from Xotic asking what do they think about this and what will be their price.

Just to to stop discussion and get "correct answer"

 

Wow thats not cheap at all.

 

Nah...let's just wait and see shall we...it's more exciting!

 

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