First look at the P650SE?

That's not what I said, see the post I replied to from mythlogic.

Also check this out:

SHARP LQ156D1JX02 Overview - Panelook.com

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 	Panel Model 	Size 	Type 	Resolution 	cd/m2 	C/R 	Color 	  	  	Sup. 	Stocks 	RFQs
	LQ156D1JX02 	15.6" [B]	CELL[/B]  	3840×2160  	0  	1000:1  	16.7M  	[In Production] 	Datasheet download 	0 	0 	0
	LQ156D1JX01 	15.6" 	[B]Panel[/B]  	3840×2160  	330  	1000:1  	16.7M  	[In Production] 	Datasheet download 	0 	0 	0

 

I shot an inquiry to Sager to see what the panels they will have are, but they said they wouldn't be able to say for sure until they arrived.

 

IPS is a must.. Its what got me looking at this model to begin with...

 

the pre-production model of nx500 and gx500 already have that 100% NTSC panel so what are you talking about?

 

Wow, why don't you try reading the post from mythlogic like I told you:

Do you understand yet?

 

Only LG, samsung etc can use the JX02 because they can use the IGZO cell on their CELL-less screen structures. IGZO is made for third party firms, just like the screen for the Nintendo 3DS is from sharp, but maybe its backlight is made by nintendo...you see what i mean ?

IGZO panel are very very rare now.

 

Wait... what?

How will you be able to use system RAM as vRAM? Won't this confuse the system into thinking system RAM is also vRAM and get all sorts of stutter due to texture swapping. Seems like you'd need almost an intelligent cache program of some sorts. But if anyone can do it, I know you can Prema!

 

The GPU drivers already handle that.

Unfortunately for me CUDA/OpenCL apps are more important and the drivers doesn't swap for those. Even if they do, the performance penalty would be bigger than with scanline rendering.

 

With my 860m it seems it will draw up to 1GB extra from system RAM. But the 970m so far is limited to 3GB on the P650SE.

I am having issues installing CUDA drivers it says the graphics driver could find no compatible CUDA hardware.

 

This is basically the same principle that DirectX 11.2 was based on. If Prema can do it in the BIOS, that's awesome. But that speed is gonna be a heck of a doozy to get. Pricey for one, and more importantly, you'll need to have sacrificial RAM. Which means with a 2GB or 3GB GPU, you're going to want somewhere around 4GB of RAM to dedicated; meaning 12GB or 16GB of such high quality RAM needs to be purchased.

The only other thing is that if a game doesn't like using extra vRAM via that sort of RAM hack, then it'll still draw from the hard drive and stutter... unless at a driver level the game cannot distinguish between system RAM and vRAM when they're combined in such a way.

 

Just to confirm something about the 1080p screen... both clevo and sager version have a crappy TN display, on the other hand we have the XMG with an IPS one, am I right?

 

thus far, these are the indications, yeah

 

The eurocom model also has an IPS display.

 

And both ship to the US?

 

both eurocom and schenker ship internationally

 

I was looking at RJtech to order mine and have it shipped to Europe but as there now seems to be an issue with the panels I'm hesitating.

I can get a good setup for 1400-1500$, that's about 300-400$ less than in Europe.
Is that worth going for the IPS? How about the sandblasted finish (P651), is it significantly better?

 

i sure hope uve also included the import tax and shipping costs in your calculations

 

Shipping and custom keyboard included, not the customs tax as I'd have it delivered in the US

 

IPS panels at the moment are offering advantages worth their price.

 

I use a Dell IPS panel at work (S2240M 21.5"), and while the colors do indeed look great and has my favorite glossy finish, I can honestly say it looks no better than the 90% gamut TN panel in my Clevo (AUO B173HW01 v4). Whether this is a testament to how good the 90% TN panel is or how bad that particular IPS panel is I do not know.

 

It's like night and day with a £140 ips panel I had.

 

IPS has the advantage of better contrast (usually better brightness), much better viewing angles, and better color reproduction than TN. It has downfalls of backlight bleed and slower response times. There are some decent TN panels out there no doubt, but I have yet to find one that trumps the overall quality of an IPS.

 

Oh yeah viewing angles, now that is indeed an easy win for the Dell IPS panel compared to the Clevo's 90% TN. Mind the TN still isn't bad by any means, it just doesn't compare to the IPS is all.

 

Anyone recommend applying CLU to this? I am worried about the cleaning process for say a repaste, chance of it getting on nodes near the die, and if it would void warranty.

 

Only use it if you are confident, there are other and more safe choices for the less experienced that will still do well like gelid extreme and IC diamond.

 

IPS is just viewing angles and bad response times. Apparently a lot of older TN panels had awful colour gamuts, but your 90% is fantastic. My 72% is fantastic too, and clears 100% sRGB like all those apple screens. Glossy is always lovely to behold up close, but matte is functionally better in many more locations. My D900F's glossy panel caused me some problems back in the day, and the Matte has not so far, so I'm a Matte guy.

But yeah, same colour gamut and same bits per colour (6-bit vs 6-bit, or 8-bit vs 8-bit) and you end up with little else difference but viewing angles.

 

The technology is important but not everything, the quality of construction and design choices mean that an IPS panel is not automatically amazing.