GTX 480M 2GB GDDR5 DX11 PhysX 100W GPU?

The bit i don't understand is why the card would need 2gb of onboard memory, the desktop versions don't even have that...

 

It's either an error or strictly a marketing ploy to look like they are offering more than ATI even though that extra GB isn't necessary.

 

Sounds like it, lol. After their desktop segment fiasco, - no wonder.

 

The point is, the GTX 480M will not offer a performance increase that's worth even £200 more than the Mobility 5870.

+£400 is just ludicrous.

 

That's in line with what I would expect:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/6215758-post128.html

 

Quite true but people will pay it, not myself mind you..

 

at least this may spur ati into releasing another card to top it while using less power.

 

If the 480M is significantly more powerful than the MR5870, I'm curious as to what ATI would release to counter it.

 

Hecatonchires come to mind

 

They probably won't come out with anything new until their 6000 series which should be announced this autumn.

 

Why announced so quickly god will it ever end with these graphics cards and processors lol.

 

No, it won't. But I can give you a piece of advice. In the past 2-3 years, all major bumps in performance have been strongly correlated with the transition to a smaller manufacturing process (i.e. 65nm->55nm, 55nm -> 40nm, etc.). Such transitions happen once every 1.5-2 years so be on a look out for these transitions.

For instance, Arrandale is a great improvement in terms of CPU performance and price in regard to the previous Core2 generation. Sandy Bridge is basically the maturation of the 32nm technology in CPUs, so it should be the major step compared to the previous core duo 2 generation. On the other hand, the current mobile quad-core i7s while definitely superior to the previous Core2 generation, they are not a major improvement in terms of performance, in fact in order to give you that extra boost in power Intel had to go 55W for the extreme version (previous extreme quads had 45W TDP). This can be attributed to the fact that they are still made in the 45nm tech. and the major leap forward is going to be when the quads will transition to 32nm... which will happen with Sandy Bridge (Huron River).

 

Well, that's not entirely true, especially not for desktop parts, but it applies more strongly to laptop parts where power consumption is far more critical.

 

Indeed you are right, in the desktop segment you are not limited so much by the TDP. But look for instance at the jump from the i7-975 and the i7-980 ... the transition from the 45 to the 32nm tech played a major role.

 

Southern Islands.

 

Very interesting article. AMD is at it again, creating confusion for both the fans and the rivals, heh.

 

The problem is caused by the fab companies not AMD, so Nvidia will have to deal with the problem too...though for Nvidia it will just be a delay in the die-shrink of Fermi not the delay of a new architecture.


To entice your speculative juices flowing: If Llano APUs will have 80 more stream processors than the Mob. HD5600/5700 GPUs have, as an on-die IGP, how many would you guess the top model 6000 series card will have?

A 480 SPU IGP should also make Hybrid Crossfire a little more interesting.

 

Sabine is still too far away for such a speculation, but yeah, that sounds very intriguing. Did you mean the 7870? Cause the ATI refresh is 3-4 months away and Sabine with Llano will appear somewhere in 2011, AFAIK.

 

No I meant 6000.

I'm expecting 6000 desktop by the end of this year but mobile versions to lag a couple of months behind, meaning early 2011. When Llano does hit the market in notebooks it will initially be paired with those 6000 series/Southern Island GPUs... both of which are rumored to still use the same kind of Evergreen based stream processors.

When the 7000 series hits (I'd guess late 2H 2011) it should be Northern Island and it might not (probably won't) use the same SPU architecture as Llano/6000 so there's no basis for guessing how many there will be.

 

True, but Core i7 was still quite a big jump for desktop CPUs and it was on the same 45nm process as Penryn. Similarly, the 8800 GTX was perhaps the biggest jump in performance in recent history, and it used the same 90nm as the 7900 cards. Nonetheless, it wasn't until the 65nm process and G92 that Nvidia's new architecture became relatively affordable.

 

That seems quite logical, though I heard that Llano will appear in notebooks no sooner than H2 2011.
I wonder whether Clevo or AW will prefer those over Sandy Bridge? HP however, will be there from the day 1, lol.

 

Way to many predications wow this is so much information, i love it lol. Blacky, that's why i am waiting for sandy bridge to come out and probably that new alienware coming out in the late fall due to the arrival of Sandy bridge. 32 millometer processors that is what i am talking about man. Yup Hp will be there from day one.

 

Hahahahahaha

 

32 millometer processors. That made me lol.

 

lol sorry i meant nanomillmeters. I was rushing.

 

You mean nanometers.

 

He means they going to cost millions

 

1nm=10^(−9) metres = 10 angstroms = 1 helluva_short_length

 

Right, nanometers but I'll forgive you.

 

I'm dying to see some benchmarks on this puppy. I'm hoping it is more powerful than the 5870.

 

It will be, but there is a price to pay.

 

say ... was wondering what kinda setup u having now ???

 

The kind that never dies.

I am considering many many options currently, but for now I still have my Clevo 870cu.

But I may be selling it soon to bring back my baby.. I don' know yet ... I will have to wait for the new laptop from Alienware in the fall to decide but yes...

Back on topic shall we?

 

And if the mobile version is anything like its big brother, it will probably be a liability to run dual cards under considerable load.

 

Anyone know exactly when the reseller NDA for this GPU ends?

I'm dieing for some concrete info.

 

Not worried about the price I just want some desktop like performance on my new Sager laptop when this thing drops Although with the 5870 getting Crossfired I'm beginning to wonder if this will take the steam out of Nvidia's 480m Fermi platform all together. My 5970's have proved to be absolutely amazing in crossfire setup and I'm sure the 5870 will prove impressive judging from the benchmarks of the 5770 CFX.

 

Yes it is going to hurt badly in terms of price, i really think that the 5870's are going to be very powerful and will still reign king, crossfire. The moo how are you doing? I haven't seen you in this website forever. So your getting bored of your sager now too lol.

 

Should be May 25:

 

Nice. I'm looking forward to what mySN has to share.

 

i really do wonder how big and hot will the adapter when this thing become available

 

You'll probably won't need firewood or heater during winter.

 

hahaha nice 1, i really hope it wont be that failure compared to the desktop counter part, it is an epic failure compared to the ati 5870 series.

 

The power supply may come with a built in fan.

 

That actually wouldn't be a first, for Clevo.

The initial batch of M860TUs shipped with a fan equipped PSU.

 

Its a possibility that the PSU will be heavier than the laptop.

desktop cpu, 2 most hottest GPU in history.... this will rip a hole in space-time.

 

You won't be able to get onto a plane with it, it will be classified as highly explosive item.

 

So we have 300 post of speculation and still no hard evidence of the specs, or the existence of this product....

 

existence of product does exist. The "speculation" will be confirm in the next few days.

 

i'm hoping it will be masterful.

 

I'm hoping it will be at least half the speculation-- not another 15-20% or null in real world.