GTX 780m in P150em

Standard mxm cards should be fine, though discussions are best done over at the msi section

 

Thank you

 

Hi there.. long time reader, first time poster..

I own an Origin Clevo p150em, with a i7 3940xm (not overclocked), and gtx 680m 4gb which i just overclocked with salitus vbios mod..

I haven't done any other overclocking to be gpu, but i'm intending on doing so after repasting the gpu and buying a new psu..

Now my question is, which psu is that Dell one you're talking about? and is it compatible with my clevo? which one do you use? and did you mod it in order to get it to work? or did it just work? because all i've been reading is that you need to mod most psu's in order to get them to work with the clevos..

On a side note, like the OP, I was also thinking of buying a 780m, tho my machine is only 6 months old.. so i'm not sure if it's worth the extra money or if i should just go back to my reseller to do the upgrade.. That's if they are willing to do it for me of course!

 

if ur machine is that new, better ask ur reseller first what the cost would be that way u can at least keep ur warranty!

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After reading, I felt like a fool. Isn't one of the purpose to buy Clevo was for it's versatility to upgrade it's components? It sounded like we are rolling the dice here.

 

some resellers mind some doesnt. xotic i am sure doesnt mind, mythologic and gentech doesnt either if i remember correctly. prostar minds for sure though, even cleaning your heatsinks will void your warranty according to prostar, so check first

 

welcome to the club my friend.............The game was over long time ago (from clevo P1x0HM) ....and you still rolling dice?..........

 

Yup, is a bummer. My first clevo/sager laptop and it had nothing I could officially upgrade because I purchased it top of the line basically already... GPU, yeah I can get a 680 but I shouldn't need a darn hacked driver file or have to get a hacked bios.

They advertise these as "User Upgradable" but they are not unless you start off with the low end...

It takes 5 min to upgrade the bios support with the proper tools, they don't because they rather push for more sales... It annoys me resellers and distros don't put more pressure on them about it but hey, it gets them more sales too... End of the day, customer is the screwed one.

Heck, I would settle for paying an fee for an upgraded bios to support things even. Charge a bios upgrade fee for EOL products if you must, don't just abandon us. (though I don't agree with a fee neither but give us something!)

to me I feel Clevo is trying to be like everyone else now, the redesign alone shows it. I like the old design simply because it's smaller...

Oh well. back to bending over....

 

That's how you learn youre lesson,no more clevo for me and for my brother and I hope for you and everybody else in here(NBR) anyway!The very first (R1) ALIENWARE'S and MSI's laptops can play any brand GPU's,old and even the new ones (780M and 8970M)with no bios mod and no drivers mod,plug and play maybe a heatsink mod but that's it. !!(im not say anything about ASUS with theyre Quasimodo shape of GPU cards that they put on theyre high end laptops,and make you only buy from them,and spent for a GPU tons of money,so you can't go and buy from different brand cheaper and sometimes better cards because they don't fit in the ASUS laptop).And this is make me the most very mad,2 year old (P1x0HM) can't play new GPU's.................And now you can't sell it for $#!t,my friend psarism selling his P150HM for 680 euros with the 7970M for 5 days and nobody want it until he drop even more the price and finaly sell it at 580 euros!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!So now hou wants clevooooooooooooooooooooo...............let me hear some orders lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Pity................................

 

It's just going to require a little more waiting to move over for the mods to be made.

 

Same here, found out after my 6990m died that my reseller cant upgrade for the 7970m, so... 6990m it is. Really disapointed with Clevo now and my next notebook gonna be either MSI or a super expensive Alienware.

 

fine with me, need some time to scrap together the necessary funds anyways haha

 

I had a great time with P150hm. I loved that machine. 460 gtx, 6970, 7970, a second hard drive. It's sad but... bye bye clevo. I am having a desktop for the next 5 years and when i get sick of it, even then, i won't buy a clevo, unless i am absolutely sure that i will be able to upgrade gpu cards for... ever!!!

 

Not buying a new notebook for the next year or two, and even then I may try to upgrade the GPU by my self to prolong its life. But then, when it gets to the point that I have to bbuy a new one, if Clevo havent changed his position about upgrades I'll simply give up on then and buy a MSI or Alienware, even them being expensiver. (I know, terrible english)

 

It's a gamble no matter what laptop or brand you buy. There's no guarantee on future compatibility. I do acknowledge Clevo's do require third party support usually, but even Alienware and MSI also require them too to unlock any further potential like the +135 clock limit on the GPU.

 

True,but for me this is the least that I care about,to unlock a GPU clock limiter from maybe a bios problem or program compatibility........but I WANT the card to play on my laptop!

 

you did this on your old laptop i remember it being on ebay BIG FAN of your work. I know you from the uk do you resell clevo notebooks in the uk as im in need of a new system and am ready to drop the cash on it now. let me know.
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We can ship world wide, into the uk you would pay vat and delivery. It does tend to work out cheaper over all but if there is a problem it would need to go back to the usa and you woukd have to pay shipping which would make it more expensive.

With my mods I dont really get a warranty anyway so I did not mind.

 

Well Im happy with my P150EM and 7970m I do not think the price of 780m is justified by its performance. At this moment all games and apps (and feauture , like bf4 - judging by alpha) are great on 7970m and 680m. In addition, according to the driver 13.150.1 AMD seriously tackled the problem with Enduro. 7970m got nice OC potential and we can use modded vbios now. And if we talk about 680m = great OC potential, especially with the modified vbios, where it overtakes stock 780m. Therefore, the inability to upgrade does not hurt and is not a problem if you are laptop enthusiast Sorry , I still learn english )

 

Yes but the 780M is going to have a 20-25% lead over the 680M when both are tweaked at 1080p.

 

Yes, but I mean , for example, OCed 680m enough at this moment to play any games 1080p with great performance . I also think that if price not a problem, and we talk only about performance, better not upgrade only videocard , but to buy a new platform with a new processor and motherboard like P150SM =P

 

If you have a 680M, moving to the 780M makes no sense. But unless you get a cheap 680M, moving to the 780M from a lower card makes sense.

 

I went from the 680m to the 780m and can safely say, the difference in performance is very noticeable!

 

stock clocks or what?

 

well 30% surely is noticeable

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Hello,

I just bought a P150SM with i7-4800MQ and GT780M.

I have Windows 8 Enterprise with Hyper-V activated and here are my perfs :

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780M video card benchmark result - Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4800MQ CPU @ 2.70GHz,Notebook P15SM

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780M video card benchmark result - Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4800MQ CPU @ 2.70GHz,Notebook P15SM

 

That sounds 140-150w atleast!!!

 

This post is very late but, did you mod the cooling (or any other hardware inside the machine) or left it stock?

 

I believe that run was with the cover off and some extra little heatsinks.

 

Hi everyone, could someone tells me if there is a possibility to upgrade P150EM with GTX 770M from CLEVO?

 

No the 7xx series does not currently work. 680m is your best bet (and faster).

 

Well, they major fact is if one likes to go from a slower 670/675m or ati to the 680, the retail price of the 780 is just 50 €uro above the 680 (with 4 GB). And even to knock off the faulty enduro, 50.-- more isn't really a big deal.

Im disappointed from ati crap. And specially from the lack-of-ability-to-work of enduro, so that i
will sell my P150EM with 7970 and buy a MSI 15" or a cheap Hasee i7 notebook. Because the
gpu shouldn't be the bottleneck in a computer with a i7.
Clevo isnt it worth the discount it suggests consumers to save money compared to a high priced, bricky Alienware or a colourful MSI.

 

That's exactly what I said.

Going from the 680M to 780M (Even now) makes little sense.

Going from something less than a 680M (though 7970M is still questionable especially now). The 7970M should be behaving mostly in new titles.

 

Are people still having problems with Enduro? My 7970M has worked flawlessly since 13.x drivers...

What specific issues are you having?

 

@Meaker

I meant it exactly differently, 50€ more for the 780 is probably the better alternative if we compare the price / achievement relation of both cards on notebookcheck.
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The Ati driver have not functioned everytime - especially those where net framework for the ccc is necessary.
I have tested some other drivers from benchmark3d.com up to v. 13.2 (which still run without net), no avail.

And the nvidia drivers are also for linux better than those from ati. fglrx versus banshee, banshee can be easily replaced by the one from nVidia itself, Ubuntu Fedora and her derivatives offers some different of driver packages easily to instal with apper, yum or yast.
Ati driver even fail in linux by the dependencies.

Those can feel happyness which have not only window$ as operatingsystem.
Because window$ is and was an unfinished botch.

Does somebody have the vbios for 2 GB alienware 680m card matching to the P150EM?

 

Going from the 680m to the 780m would mean you already own the 680m so shelling out more for a small gain especially if you tweak seems like a lot to me.

 

At least in benchmarks 7970M is only about 12% under 780M, considering worst CPU as well. Not bad for my old but faithfull 2 year rig. runnnig catalyst 14.4. I still play almost every game in ultra maxed settings.
3dmark06
3dMARK11
stock clocks
mildly OC (950/1450) the diff is almost non (around 3%)

I wont consider upgrading anytime sooner.

 

Yes it makes upgrading to the current cards give very little return if you have the first set of cards from this generation, the 7970M and 680m.

 

Men, i'm going insane Just YES, the 780 works in this notebook or no, it does not work.
Is this so difficult?

 

There you go.

 

Yes no choice with this one, though it's not too much of a difference especially if you tweak it

 

What about the 770m? It's TDP should be lower?

I would love to throw one in the P150EM because my 7970m totally failed.

 

It's not the TDP but rather lack of BIOS support in the EM series. Although if you bought Prema a 24 pack I'm sure something could be arranged

 

P150 can handle the heat just fine. It's all software at the moment.

 

Yes especially since the SM series heatsinks fit in there too.

 

I compared the 765 with 192bit bus used in iMac's which would be an alternative.
Needless to say that apple stuff maybe want work in a pc even you can flash a
stock nVidia vbios in. It is?

 

Unlikely, but I don't know of any precedent to say for certain. Both [Clevo and Mac] contain proprietary parts though.

 

They can be quite different, it would probably just brick it.

 

Haha
And MSI? Because my first selection for a flexible notebook is still rather a GT 60 then the tricky clevo.
It's just the higher price which held me to buy a MSI barebone.

 

It's not clear sailing for msi to be fair either.