Geforce GTX 280M announced!

So I guess then that the 180M idea has been dropped or it will just be a rebranding of the current 9800M GTX. Anyway, I think it's too optimistic to say 30-40% but we will have to wait and see.

Also from what I have seen on overclocking 7900 seris and my 9800M, it's not such much as heat being an issue when overclocking but it's rather artifacts that start to pop up. But maybe I am mistaking.

 

HERE IT IS specs:
http://www.nvidia.com/object/product_geforce_gtx_280m_us.html

MXM 3.0 typeB!!!
BYE BYE UPGRADE!

 

i assume m860tu wont support it either....

 

FFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUU

 

not looking good for the home team.

 

Well, if the GDDR5 4870s are the real deal, I'll be testing the compatibility with my system ASAP. Dang, I'm forced to go ATi....

 

I would not jump to final conclusions yet.

recently there have been two flavors of high-end MXM cards (such as ATI 4870):
- MXM 2.0 Type III/IV
- MXM 3.0 Type B

if Nvidia is smart, they should release both flavors.

 

we should hope so....
the problem is the wait...just how long till that becomes a reality....

and quit watching that live feed from cebit gophn...

 

Nvidia is smart, infacts will promove MXM 3.0 as ITS OWN NEW STANDARD...
how can you set a standard if you change it in 3.5 years????
BAH

 

This is very bad for us
now if we want that card we have to buy a new laptop
and the worst will be if the card is really so good like nVIDIA say

 

I would not worry too much about it.

this 280M is not a huge improvement over the 9800M GTX (112 sp).

its specs look comparable to the Quadro 3700M (128 sp).... with slightly higher clock speed.

not a leap in technology.

 

really it's up to clevo...if they want to design a different board for the chip...they can....nvidia would just be making everyones job eaiser if they just made it from the start.

 

Well, the 280M comes with stock clocks that pretty much match a 9800M GTX max overclock, so that's quite a performance leap, especially if it have head room for more overclocking. The stock 950MHz on the memory is crazy.

 

and the memory is what was holding the gtx back...that and bandwidth.

going by their..er...ummm...idea of performance...in sli those cards could hit a 16.5k to 17k at stock. im already at 15.7 stock no over clock.

 

we still maybe will be able to upgrade to GTX 280M like i see the new D900F is with same chassis like D901C and if there is no major changes to the chassis we can still upgrade the motherboard, video cards and CPU

 

where you see that at gangstaone? none one has an actual picture of the d90xf. and eurocom is using a d901c as a place holder.

although we should have one later today though

 

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=358804

 

This is indeed a big day.

280M looks like a great card, altough from those first benchmarks on notebookcheck it looks just as I predicted: about 15% increase over the 9800M GTX. That's not a lot but enough to give it an edge over the ATI 4870.

But I actually think that the newest and most interesting addition is the ATI 4860 on 40nm . I expect it to be a very cheap card with very good performence.

It makes me so sad that I have paied a 350 euros premium for the 9800M GTX over the 9800M GTS. I could have used that money to upgrade now to something much better.

Hopefuly Clevo will support ATI's soon so I can upgrade to them if possible.

 

We need more benchmarks!!

 

Haha, up to 50% more performance in a single game probably. In most games it's probably no more than 10-12% than the 9800M GTX. And it uses MXM 3.0? What the hell is the point of MXM if they keep changing it all the time? I thought it was supposed to make upgrading easier...doesn't seem so really?

Seriously, what was wrong with MXM as it used to be? I never seen any issues with it.

The way this is turning out is just horrible. I'm just hoping the ATI 4870 will fit into the M570RU.

 

The only way for gtx 280m to make 50% performance more than 9800M GTX is in D900F with Core i7 but if we compare simply the two cards in the same machine with higher clocks that both can get the gtx 280 will be no more than 20-30%

 

i just look, i stand corrected.
and it looks like eurocom did in fact have the correct picture up.

 

It is up to Clevo indeed. But according to these pictures, they went with the MXM 3.0 route with the M980NU.

They did say Asus and others will unveil systems with the GTX 200M chips, and Asus already turned the mobility 48xx cards into MXM-IV (2.1), same with MSI, but MXM-III (2.1), even though AMD/ATi used MXM 3.0 for reference design. So, for those wanting to stick with the green team, there maybe hope...

 

man, that m98 is looking the the sure thing if you can run dual gtx280m's with over clocking.

 

yep john but if the 900f have two video cards this will be very good i really like the M980NU but its with worst mobo and cpu than d900f

 

I just hope the Clevo D900F isn't some ridiculous price.

 

Why would you expect anything different?

 

because they will have to be still be competitors with all the powrful laptops coming out like the Asus W90vp, and the new Asus and MSI laptops with GTX280m.

 

lol
you mean it's not an i7 motherboard. that doesn't mean it worse, just not as high of a performer as the new technology...but even though it's not an i7 it still looks like it will run 2 gtx280m's. and even though you have an i7 for video editing/decoding/transcoding....dual cards are better for most games....but i still wnt be budging till it's verified that they unlocked over clocking.

 

i dont say that the M980NU is not very good machine
i'm just saying that if the D900F also hold two cards will be much better
but if the D900f does have to cards who will buy M980NU its bigger and have mobile cpu compare to Core i7
well this is it with my hope D900F to have two cards

 

Maybe there is hope for an upgrade path to the GTX 280 for M57xTU/ETU users...according to this...

Looks like an M57xTU to me...and the Nexoc E70x series corresponds to the Clevo M57xTU...

 

hummm, from the early things we are seeing...the M980NU with dual 280's will in fact be faster than the single 280/i7 so with this in mind it looks like the d90xf wont be the king, but the m98nu just might be....only if it is allowed to over clock the system. they pull an alienware move and they are history before they really get started....(speculation of course)

so....who is going to be the first test dummy to find out??...lol

 

so is there an upgrade possibility in the future for the m570ru which supports (i think) mxm type 3? if so thats awesome...alternatively if thats not the case how long will my 8800m gtx last :S

 

the 8800M GTX (aka 9800M GT) is still very high-end in the mobile market.

it should easily last for 2-3 more years.

 

The 8800/9800M GT will be obsolete when it's the 8600M GT of a generation. That's when your highest playable res is 1280x800, and you still can't be sure of 30 fps at max settings.

Our card is still quite a long way from that doomsday scenario.

 

I may have missed the post but did they announce when the M980NU was supposed to launch ?

 

Eurocom says the shipping date is July 1, 2009.

 

Thanks for the info

 

THe M570RU is NOT mxm 3.0, it is mxm 2.1 version IV (compatible with version III)

MXM 3.0 is a totally different physical connector and hasn't been implemented on any clevo production models yet.

It looks like the M98xNU will be MXM 3.0, it is unknown about the D900F

 

Same thing happened with the 8000 series to 9000 series, why is everyone so surprised? The days of adding a 50 to the end of an nvidia chip's name are long gone, now minor changes == a whole new line/generation.

 

When are the vga's available? anyone knows?

 

Doesn't Xotic sell the NP5797 with 280M GTX?

One could easily suspect that the new NP5797 model has a MXM 3.0 motherboard, whilst the old NP5796 has a MXM 2.1 motherboard.

 

The Clevo M570TU/ETU (Sager 5796/5797) has a single MXM Type IV (2.1) module.

In previous posts, I have shown that upcoming MXM modules will come in two flavors:
- one for MXM 2.x
- one for MXM 3.0

 

Also, MXM 3.0 is not backward compatible with cards from the previous versions, thus the NP5797 would not be able to use the 9800M GTX, if it had MXM 3.0 on the motherboard.

This line of questioning is concluded.

 

but isn't the GTX 280m MXM 3.0b, so how does the Sager NP5797 have it?

 

Let me make this as plain as possible.

The Sager 5797 is currently the MXM 2.1 standard. Unless a new motherboard is being manufactured for MXM 3.0b, the GTX 280M being used in this chassis is MXM 2.1; if a change that drastic was made, the name would most likely not be the 5797 (i.e., 5796 -> 5797 after the intro of mobile Core 2 Quad).

Further evidence; the M860TU (NP8660) is also receiving an upgrade: the GTX 260M. The 260M is offered by Cizmo as a second option to the 9800M GTS, something which would not be possible if the chassis was moved to the MXM 3.0b standard.

Conclusion (which Gophn already stated): Cards are available to vendors in 3.0 or 2.1 standards.

 

Sorry but I did not get it. How do I see if it is MXM 3.0 or 2.1?

 

Is there any difference in performance????

 

The MXM 2.1 version of the card has a bit slower default clocks.