Gtx 485m?

The amount of ram barely matters in most tests unless you are at a high resolution and have AA enabled......

 

Also, just did some reading and it looks like the GTX 470m is simply a downclocked desktop GTX 460 768MB

I would HOPE that the GTX 485m is a full GF 104 core downclocked (so a slowed down desktop GTX 460 1GB). Will be very sad if it is in fact just a GTX 460 SE downclocked. So the same as the GTX 470m but 256-bit memory bus

 

More (active) shaders as 480M...
Higher gpu/shader clock as 470M...
Significantly higher memory clock at 256Bit as 480M...

...wth is the TDP of this 485M card?! The 480M operates with 0,85V at 3D?!

 

See? told you the GTX 485M = weakened desktop GTX 560.

 

We still have yet to see anything about the GTX 560 for the desktop though unless I am mistaken

AND I do not see nvidia using a desktop chip for a newer line with an older name on the laptop part, I would expect the opposite.

 

Based off these specs, the 485m would be the best single mobile gpu card out there for now right? (This is disregarding the future AMD 6000 series and nVidia's 500 series)

 

Talk to me a week ago and I would have told you GTX 485M was being released as a GTX 580M instead and would be a 100W GF114 GPU, but even right now I still have to ask, why would Nvidia bother to release a full GF114 under a GTX 485M model number while already rebranding the rest of the line into 500M series.


Is there a source link to that spec sheet? I've seen too many fakes to take it at face value.

 

Maybe it is GF104 after all, Nvidia had the ability to enable all 384 shaders all along, but why do so without improving the design on a mobile card where efficiency matters!? That would make no sense. Unless they plan to bring out GF114 as GTX 580M, but it would just be the exact same card with higher clocks and I doubt that the full GF104 with those clocks will be 75W or even 100W...

BTW anybody notices the processor clock of 1500 on the GTX 470M... doesnt seem valid.

 

GF110/114 are not the same as GF104/106

Nvidia made several changes that enhance the newer design considerably. So a 384 shader GF 104 would not be the same or as good as a 384 core GF114

 

I know, that's why I said it would not make sense, it would be less efficient than GF114, not efficient enough to be used in a laptop.

BTW, look at this:

Not really comparable because the SB CPUs are stronger, but still some indication, although the difference seems far too big...

 

It's not like nVidia hasn't done this before; remember the GTX 260M and GTX 280Ms? They were supposed to be named the GTX 170m and GTX 180M until ATi came out with the 48xx mobile series. As a matter of fact, the GTX 280M is still labeled as a 180M if you analyze the old VBIOS and the beta .inf files. I wouldn't be surprised if nVidia decides to change/rebrand this 485M into a 580M because after all, most people would consider the desktop GTX 580 more like a GTX 485 due to the performance margin between it and the GTX 480.

Leaked specs of the GTX 560 suggest 384 SPs on a 256 bit bus. Some are saying that this is a GF114 chip while others are calling it a "fully unlocked GF104" though it's really just semantics between those two terms.

 

No rebrands for GTX 460M, GTX 470M, and GTX 485M

 

Holy smokes, was I wrong or what? You had it, ichime. Props.

What is the TDP of that monstrosity? It has to be near 100W and it looks like a good 100W this time..

GG 6970M.

 

So when will we see the high end level Geforce 500M?

Edit:

http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/05/nvidia-makes-geforce-gt-500m-family-official-introduces-gtx-485/

Looks like the GTX 485M will be nVidia's highest tier single gpu.

 

^^ Yup, I doubt we'll see a 580M anytime soon.

 

I don't know if this was up before, but the GTX 485M is up on nVidia's product page:

GeForce GTX 485M

GPU Engine Specs:
CUDA Cores 384
Processor Clock (MHz) 1150 MHz
Texture Fill Rate (billion/sec) 36.8
Memory Specs:
Memory Clock (MHz) 1500
Standard Memory Config GDDR5
Memory Interface Width 256-bit
Memory Bandwidth (GB/sec) 96.0
Feature Support:
NVIDIA SLI®-ready* 2-Way
NVIDIA 3D Vision Ready
NVIDIA Optimus Technology
NVIDIA PhysX™-ready
NVIDIA CUDA™ Technology
Microsoft DirectX 11
OpenGL 4.1
Bus Support PCI-E 2.0
Certified for Windows 7
Display Support:
Maximum Digital Resolution 2560x1600
Maximum VGA Resolution 2048x1536

 

Slick trick. Confuse the consumer much?

 

That was not on their website earlier and it is VERY interesting. That card will actually be a formidable performer!

 

Test Nvidia Geforce GTX 485M Grafikkarte - Notebookcheck.com Tests


Game Benches:

GTX 480M - GTX 485M => ~+42%

HD 5870 - GTX 485M => ~+69%


"First" Benches different systems:

HD 6970M - GTX 485M => ~+17%

 

...

the P170HM with OC would be faster

 

woahhhhh whatttttt.... the GTX 485M beat a 6970M crossfire in 3dmark06?

Edit: Ugh... why would they not run GTA IV at a higher res.

 

GTX 485M SLi in X7200 @ stock GTX 560 clocks would be godlike. When will you get them Speedy? ;-)

 

GTX 485M + Intel i7-2920XM CPU

HD 6970M + i7-940XM CPU

...they do not speak of a crossfire configuration in this text?!

 

It's 3dmark 06.... 940xm vs a 2920xm, think. Regardless even on even CPU's it looks like the 485 is gonna be an extremely powerful card.

Edit; now I'm confused by those benches, how is there only a 800 point increase in 3dmark06 from one 6970 to x2?

 

The Crossfire HD6970M score is only 822 points higher than the single HD6970M score. Questionable results.

 

I wonder, why did they stop Furmark after 1min? 70C wasn't even close to the danger zone... Still, a 15" notebook with a 485M and xtreme SB CPU - impressive.

 

Even an integrated Nvidia chip paired with a single 6970 could get a higher 06 gain (drawing from what we saw in the M17xR3 thread) then what they claim is results of 6970 vs 6970x2 so I extremely confused...

@ aikimox how long does notebookcheck usually run furmark, 1min is almost an insult to any techie reading that.

 

GTX 485M

0,85V @ 2D
1.00V @ 3D

...wich voltage has a 470M card with the same GF104 GPU and lower clocks?

 

I'm still pretty convinced the GTX 485m is going to be 75 watts. It's a fully unlocked GTX 470m with a slightly higher clock. It's not a true full fermi chip - it's going to draw less power.

Additionally, all the notebooks we've seen that have tested the GTX 485m all had PSU's incapable of handling a 100 watt+ gpu along with everything else.

Additionally, and this is the most important part, in order for a MXM card to draw much more than 75 watts, there has to be an extra rail coming from the laptop's psu. On the P501, this extra rail is absent. So unless they completely redesigned the MXM slot's power handling capabilities, (which is very unlikely, the GTX 485m will be <=75watts.

 

Test Nvidia Geforce GTX 485M Grafikkarte - Notebookcheck.com Tests

"The power consumption should be based on the level of the old GeForce GTX 480M and therefore 100 watts including memory / MXM Board. The increased performance is significantly better efficiency."

 

They usually run the tests for a couple of hours, if not more. Seems like if they had a power issue (PSU tripping?)

 

The P150HM has an option for the same 180W PSU that the W88xCU had for the GTX 480M.

Also, last I checked Nvidia controlled the MXM standard.

Power Throttling like the desktop GTX 580?

 

Or could be that the combined power draw of the 485M+2920XM knocked out the PSU. Since SB CPU's can now boost all cores for short periods of time, I'm afraid we may see 200W+ spikes (overall) even in single GPU systems.

 

I'm still a little shocked how honest you remain even after becoming a retailer. If I lived in Canada and wanted a Clevo system you'd probably be the only retailer I'd even consider All that smooching aside it's gonna be a fun week or two ahead of us, the 485 looks like a very good card.

 

He became a reseller out of desperation after seeing how all the others acted lol

And spikes of high power draw should not hurt the PSU, just sustained high draw

 

Thanks for the kind words, M8! A nickname color shouldn't change a person,.. at least that's my hope. First and foremost we are all enthusiasts here trying to get to the bottom of things, even if the truth is painful

 

That's where smart people like me come in and buy a 300W PSU since the P170HM uses the same four pin DIN connector as the X7200.

Miss me, guys?

 

The 485M is a beast, but what's the over/under with the line, at say... $850?

I'll take the Over.

 

care about the tempture
bcz when 480 rise up to 80+°C, X7200s stupid fan will suddenly rich from maybe 50% to 100% rampaging
utill down to 78+°C will suddenly be quiet again 50%.........then again 100%.......then 50%.....cycling
if 485m no such a problem then will get two of these.....since i dont need GF100 professional applications like ECC memory FP64...etc
will anyone got a 485m willing to exchange with my two 480m?haha

 

Since 485m=460m Sli, i wonder what 485m Sli might look like.

But to be honest, i havent encountered a game so far that i was dissapointed by how it runs on my 950 i7 and 460m sli.

 

Has anyone noticed that on notebookcheck there are also some P GPU scores for the 6970M ?

Have you also noticed that these scores are 11.900 points, while the 485M has a score of 12.100 ?

I can't wait to see the gaming performance of these cards!

Either way, the performance increase from the 480M to the 485M is almost hard to believe.

 

try
metro 2033................1920*1080 all high......low fps
crysis............1920*1080 very high 4SSAA......460m cant run bcz it require 1.8G vram

 

Right? It still doesn't even feel real to me, but there it is.

 

Not that hard to believe if you look at the specs....MANY more shaders and higher frequencies! I would expect it to wipe the floor with the GTX 480m

 

What I mean is, I didn't expect Nvidia to attempt another 100W GPU.

Unfortunately it will still fail because of it's price.

 

The top end nvidia GPUs have ALWAYS been priced sky high, they also still sell plenty haha

I am fine with the same 100W TDP since the performance per watt is through the roof better than the GTX 480m. I would have been fine with the 480m if it just had better performance or lower wattage (or both )

 

Well, even with the GTX 460 selling at ~$200, I'd happily take a $650 485M.

If it creeps above that, it becomes harder to justify.

 

I would expect it more around $750-$800 per card

 

I completely agree. That's what the price for the high-end mobile video card should be.

$800 is just unjustifiable, especially given that in 6 months you can get the same performance for half that price.

What I am looking forward to see is the 6970M. It might be 10% less performance but almost half the price.

 

Very true about the ATI cards

Although since ATI became more aggressive in the mobile market it has forced nvidia to price more competitively. Just look at the GTX 280 pricing as proof. Like $400 per card since the 4870 was around to smack it up some where the 9800m GTX which was uncontested was like $800 per card