Gtx 580m

Absolutely not, the GTX 485M in both 8170 & 8150 has the 6-31-X510N-302 heatsink for the die part and the 6-31-X510N-502 heatsink for the VRAM part.

 

@pkhetan: sorry let me rephrase again. the price of uprading to the 485m dropped by 200 dollars. i have no idea about what happened to the cost of the chips alone

 

No, it's the total price of the notebook with 485M which dropped by $200. You can't talk about a drop in "the price of upgrading to 485M" because each upgrading uses different base;
before, 460M --> 485M = $500
now, 560M --> 485M = $300

As a person who has some business in the video cards market (these of Clevo), I was confused about the new 485M price announced by the rebranders/resellers and wondering how could it happen to drop by $200 it's just two far from the market, unless that the rebranders/resellers get their cards from another source than Clevo, because for your information, Clevo never change the price of their cards, it's the reseller who decrease their profit margin over the time to get red of the old stock and to go forward to the new items.

 

yes but before the 28th
560M --> 485M = $500
ive been researching for months now and i remember thats what it was

 

DGDXGDG is it matter whether they use black pcb or green pcb or red pcb ?

 

nope......i like black, its cool

btw ati hd6990m driver appear on p150/170hm download page now..........why they type "ati" not amd

 

It'd clash with the Intel Inside sticker.

 

On p170hm driver page ,they use AMD HD6990M while ATI HD6990M on p15xHMx page.

 

When did 6970M came out after its drivers appeard on Clevo's website? So while p170hm/p150hm has it listed, x7200 hasn't. Do you comsider this as no CF option in the future?

 

So no word on having the 580 work with 120Hz screens and 3d? Xotic and Malibal both only allow 120Hz with 485M.

 

Origin allows 3d/120hz screens with GTX580m...

 

I'm curious about this too.

 

According to nVidia's website, 3D vision *IS* supported, and Clevo is listed as the only maker which supports it; their P170HM and P270WM models are listed. Alienware is also listed as supporting the 580M, but not for 3D screens.

 

Here is a post I made several pages back regarding 3D:

 

Once a certified driver package is released by Nvidia for the 580M that supports 3D, we should be good to go...
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Sager has noted that it has not been validated yet for 3D, but it does support it.

edit: ninja'd! Better though coming from the resellers.

 

so is the 485m on back order from just sager or does that apply to resellers like malibal and xoticpc aswell

 

...Umm, where did you hear the 485 is backorderd?

 

If they aren't already, they will be because the technology is moving forward.

Mr. Mysterious

 

On the sager website

 

Hi I am kinda new with tech specks but is the 580m even faster? Notebook check says that the 6970m=960@680MHz while the 580m=768@620MHz. 580m has better shader and memory speed thoe. So would the 6970m's be faster in some games? Because I want to have as people have been saying "the bleeding edge". Sure the 580m's are expensive but this is going to be my everything computer and I want it to play todays heavy games no problem. Sure the 580m's might only give a extra 5-10fps but in some cases that can change a game from lagging to playable. So basically what I am asking is the 580m sli going to be faster then the 6970m crossfire 95% of the time? Thanks!

 

Hey fellas, did you notice those temps on GTX580M under notebookjournal.de for Clevo P150HM

 

You can't directly compare architectures because a NVIDIA shader is not an AMD shader and so on and so forth. 580M also has higher transistor count.

As far as SLI, I'd say its faster than 6970m xfire 99% of the time. However, its going to be 700 bucks more. If 6990m comes, that picture will change.

 

97 degrees after two minutes of furmark is a bit alarming. Most likely this is just a bad paste job, unless the 485m also reaches these scorching temps.

 

You might as well wait to see what this 6990M brings to the table.

 

its only at .87 volts aswell. so much for being more effiecient

edit: lmao hahahahaha

 

My GTX 485M reaches 83C after 2 minutes of Furmark...

 

Surely, smth is defenitely wrong in here Hope they didn't get the first 580M sample fried up while testing!

 

I want to check it out too, wondering if there will be CF option available? If 6970M can be OC to gain +20% performance boost that's probably equal to 6990M +10% OC. Not bad, ha? Also we don't know for sure how the latter card handles high clocks and what temps it can get...

 

very impressive votage
580m idle 0.80v load 0.87v
485m idle 0.85v load 1.00v
and the pcb redesigned........2 more 330uf capacitor
must have very good oc potential

 

It's too early to talk about voltages and OC'ing potential, IMHO. Maybe Nvidia lowered voltage simply to cope with the extra heat. The temps are alarming but I think it's because of a bad paste job, improper HS alignment or fan problem. The room temp is very low, BTW. My apartment is 10c higher and the same test would hit past 100C and result in throttling.

 

so who has one of these 580m's and has anyone flashed the 580m bios on th 485m?

 

since we know the pcb model is different.......better not try
just like pc gtx460 & gtx560ti, just very small difference, but 460 still cant flash to 560ti even u put gf114 core on 460

 

Can someone post 580m bios?

There would be no point to flash its bios to 485m as 580m has lower voltage.

 

planning to order laptop with 580M because i think it will run cooler but after see notebookjournal temp test result , im confused lol

 

I would not place much trust in the notebookjournal temp test. This week we will have better and more accurate results.
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Nvidia's confidence in raising the core clock by 75Mhz over the older 485m should be some indication of the improved efficiency of the new(?) core. Hopefully the resellers will have some test results of their own to help compare in the near term.

 

45Mhz not 75Mhz.

 

Yeah, man. You'd better wait for the more accurate results from the resellers and pull the trigger afterwards That was probably something wrong with the early reviewing unit, so don't get too confused. I'm sure, 580M is a pretty card, especially after it passes 3D Vision driver verification!

 

Not as big as an increase as I remembered then, but I'm sure the overclocking community can stretch the limits further.

 

It depends.

I think 580m overclocking would reach quite a higher level than 485m on x7200 and m17xR3.

 

There should be some good overclockingpotential on this card. Think if you could up the voltage to 1.03 like the 485M can with nibitor. That would 0.16(!) more than stock voltage.

 

1.03V murders temps though, up to 20 degrees C higher, at least on my 280M.

 

1.03 dont murder temps on my 485M. Only 4-5 higher. 20C higher? From 1.00? That doesnt seem right.

 

Just ordered my beast from XoticPC.com (wanted to get in on the free shipping) and hopefully it's here before I deploy to Saudi Arabia for my 6 month "fun" in the sand. I will let you know what I think once it arrives. Any other PC games I forgot? Keep in mind the internet is not going to be hot so anything that is ONLINE required might not work out for me.

• NP8170 ($1,959.00)
• Display 17.3" FHD 16:9 "Glare Type" Super Clear Ultra Bright LED Glossy Screen
• 2nd Generation Intel® Core™ i7-2630QM, 2.0-2.8GHz
• nVidia GeForce GTX 580M 2,048MB GDDR5
• 8,192MB DDR3 1333MHz Dual Channel Memory
• 500GB 7200RPM (Serial-ATA II 300 - 16MB Cache)
• Combo Dual Layer SuperMulti DVDRW/CDRW Drive
• Wireless Advanced-N 6230 - 802.11A/B/G/N WLAN Module + BT

The games I have purchased and are ready to be installed are as follows:

• Assassins Creed Brotherhood
• Brink
• Call of Duty Black Ops
• Crysis 2
• Dirt 3
• Dragon Age 2
• Duke Nukem Forever
• Fear 3
• GTA IV
• Lost Planet 2
• Metro 2033
• Portal 2
• Red Faction Guerrilla
• Shift 2 Unleashed
• Super Street Fighter IV
• The Witcher 2

 

bad company 2

 

Maybe 20 is an exaggeration. At least 10 though. I don't crack 85 on stock voltage, but I can crack 96 easily on overvolt.

 

The internet speed in Saudi Arabia is quite good. When I left from there in Dec 2010, the DSL was 20Mb/s and they were working on fiber cable 100Mb/s

 

what was that country that the internet went down in because some woman dug up the cable or something?

 

Georgia... ).