Gtx 580m

Well there are a couple guys with 6970m ES w/ bios's that enabled all 1120sp - those guys could OC to the right speeds and that will be the exact 6990m benches (assuming - and I think safely - it's just the Blackcomb XT fully enabled).

 

doesn't the 6990m also have extra texture rasters?

 

yeah it has 5 more texture processing thingies than 6970

 

wouldnt the TMUs be unlocked as well when flashing the ES 6970m cards to 1120 SP?

 

I can't understand the relevance of ES when they are not readily available to acquire.
Sager/Clevo does not ship ES units.

You cannot unlock a retail 6970m.

 

Anyone know how to overclock the core on the GTX 580M? I tried to use a tool called NVIDIA Inspector, but it only worked on the memory and shader clocks.

 

I also forgot to say it won't let me increase the voltage either. Is there another better tool to use?

 

Use MSI afterburner. You cant increase voltage without flashing it, but nibitor doesnt support the card yet.

 

huh, strange, works quite well with the 485m core. keep us updated on ur OC progress, would be nice to see how far u can push the card and if it wont work with msi afterburner either i guess ull just have to wait for the next update to unlock compatibility with the gf114 core

cheers

 

MSI Afterburner worked for me. I was able to overclock to 650, 1300, and 1950 for my core, shader, and memory clocks, respectively.

 

Was that the highest you could go before artifacting?

 

yea please let us know, honestly compared to the 6970, thats pathetic.

people are running 30% OCs on 6970s ... your Core OC is 5% Shader 3%
Memory 30% ...

But the memory is probably the least important.

6970s are getting 30% CORE OC, and memory ...

Have you pushed or is that the best you can run on the 580 ?

 

Yes that's the highest it would go before artifacting or driver crashes. I might be able to push memory further, but that's as far as the slider goes in Afterburner. Also, I can't adjust the core and shader separately, so I don't know if the core or shader is the bottleneck. Whenever I try to adjust them separately, Afterburner just resets my core and shader back to stock. Finally, I haven't tried adjusting the voltages yet because I haven't been able to find a program that'll work.

 

Many thanks Synk ... People have been wondering which will OC further the 6990 or the 580 ... its looking like 6990 by a long shot. BUT, I would like to see other people's experience.

AND ... I am sure your card is still kicking some serious a ss

 

650/1300 is a little disappointing. Try to leave the memory at stock and see if you can increase the core/shader some more. You should leave the core/shader ratio 1:2.

To adjust the voltage you have to flash it. To do that you need nibitor, but that program doesnt support 580M yet, so you are stuck at stock voltage for now. You could ask mavke at mvktech.net if he could increase the voltage if you upload it to him.

 

Wow that's it, my 485m can easily go to 700/1400, with 1800 on the stock voltage at around 83c, and that was before I really worked the card in. I don't know how to get the increased voltage bios to work though, so maybe someone could help me.

Also why do you leave them at the 1:2 ratio?

 

Ok so I took delivery of my 580m equipped notebook and so far I've got it 740/1750 with a 3dmark Vantage score of 15993. Low I know.... I think the fact that nvidia doesnt even have the card listed in their drivers and im forced to to use the betas is really hurting.

This card is really a clocker though. 620 >> 740 core clock and have yet to get BSOD or lockup. I will go for 750-760 shortly.

 

Which driver version are you using?

 

Beta 275.50

 

no.....580m overclocks great, will making a thread for it
here is 580m@560ti clocks Generic VGA video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-980X Processor,CLEVO CO. X7200 score: P19701 3DMarks
"Generic VGA" lol

 

I'd really like to see some details about this including real temps @ stock cooling.
Also, the score is inflated by the CPU, GPU only score is 17.5k.

 

that looks much better Chappa

 

My 580M idels at 39c in a 77 degree room and max temp on 3DMark was 83c if I recall correct. But at stock I only got like P14587 for my total score.

No OC or anything done yet and have the beta nvidia drivers on currently.

 

83C w/o OC'ing...Hmmm. There are games out there that push the GPU much more than 3DMark. I don't see any room for OC'ing here under normal conditions (25C room, no cooler pad, etc). We'll see how X7200 handles the heat.

 

Eivind, I was able to get to 740/1480/1910 by lowering the memory to stock and increasing the core/shader first. The memory is lower than my previous setting, but the core and shader are higher. I really only play SC2 and Civ5. Which settings do you think would be better for these games?

When I load the GPU at 100% for 15 minutes or so the temp is 93 C. The ambient is probably around 75 F.

Also, I'm using version 268.49. I saw 275.50 on NVIDIA's web site, but it didn't list it as supporting the 580M. I'm assuming they just didn't update the web site.

 

yea even something like SC2 will push harder then 3dmark ...

 

Synk is that 93C with the Overclock ?

 

Yes, it's 93 C with the 740/1480/1910 settings. Well, it's 92 C now since it's getting cooler due to sunset...

 

Stock Paste ? or what paste in general ? IC Diamond or what ?

 

Do you mean thermal compound? It's stock. Does that stuff really make a difference?

 

Yea it does by 1-5c generally if you go with IC Diamond.

But I don't think my 83c is too bad for how warm my room is and with fans on auto. I am use to seeing them that high and cards don't get that much hotter with the OC that I have seen. You normally hit a voltage limit or just the limits of what it can do before temps. (At least with my desktop ones I OC thats been the way.)

I miss doing desktop cards though because I would change the Fan curve somewhat so the cards actually ran cooler while running faster lol. Darn laptops, how dare you not be OC friendly!

 

oooo makes a huge difference.

ok ... erg. now if only we knew which stock was used. Still though thats ... almost helpful. well its the best you can offer I guess. Who did you order through ?

You are being actually quite helpful, I know I am pressing you .. but details are very important

 

yea Bryanu those are fine temps but ... for instance my 6970s run about 72C in 3dmark ... in a 27C room.

With a 775/1050 OC they still only run 82C.

I am actually running 775/1050 OC off start up as my standard ...

 

and thats stock paste as well, Stock *crap*y dell paste at that
*lol the auto editor here is hilarious

 

wow, 740/1480/1910, the stock are 620/1240/1500? so 400 Mhz on top of the the stock memory speeds?

 

I ordered mine from Malibal

 

In using the NP7282 over a week now with the SLI 580M's it runs at about 38C during idle and gets to 83C under benching. With the pre drivers, the 26849, it is doing only 27K GPU in Vantage overclocked.
I would like to try another driver when available. I remember the 485M when it first came out the scores were not good. I believe I was the first one that posted those here on the forum.
Until I get a REAL driver I am not eager to post results...
_

 

Baby please post, we need to diagnose ! Whats the split between GPU and CPU score ?

And Redline... Mem clocks are, from what I have seen, the least important.

 

Of course we have people hitting 29K in 3d Vantage with 6970s ... but stil. It would give us something to look at

$h1t I am totally addicted to benches now ... CRAP when did this happen

 

Below is the best I can do right now with the pre-drivers 26849...

 

hey thought id finally joinup and offer something, theres a 580m review on notebookcheck pointing out Schenker recommend 275.50

not sure if its mentioned here or known to have problems, just thought it useful

 

got my laptop with gtx 580m and it is killing crysis 2 dx11 everything ultra and it hasnt had a slow moment. this laptop is amazing, thx mythlogic. also cant wait for new drivers and hopefully we will see what this card can really do.

 

The 275.50 does not allow SLI. It will not let you enable SLI. If you have a single 580M it is a ok driver.
_

 

I'm looking into a NP8170 right now, and I have the option of going up to the 580M (at a whopping 600$ increment!). Or not, and keep the 560M and save for retirement.
My question is, can I, at a later date, pick up the 580M and put it into my NP8170? Will it work or does the system need to be configured differently to handle the 580M (more power, bigger fan, etc)?

 

Yes it is very user upgradable. The 580M kit with the heatsink will work with nothing else needed...
-

 

Just know that the later date 580M will be significantly more expensive than the a la carte upgrade price you see today.

I would wait it out for the much cheaper 6990M, unless you need it now.

 

Why would it be more expensive? Is it a question of wether I can obtain one since stores don't seem to sell mobile GPUs in retail boxes?

Also, does the 6990M from ATI use the same socket? Where do I find this info? I'm familiar with desktop PCIe stuff, but not so much notebook socket standards.

 

Jus for the record and comparison a simply amazing article of M17x with GTX 580M. Seems like AW cooling can really handle this card. Oh, i want my beast so badly right now)

 

Wow, 69c running furmark for 15min is incredibly.

 

AW quotes the price of a single gtx 580m as 1200, there are however other vendors like most of the retaillers here. And the pricing is quite steep.

The prices of mobile gpus are like that very expensive, basically get the best out there that you can afford and if you dont have money to buy a new laptop in some years try to upgrade it. Also pray that the MXM slot havent changed by then

yes they use the mxm III type B. its basically a connector in a pcie slot