Gtx 580m

How are you all liking the new driver? Thanks.

NVIDIA DRIVERS 285.27 BETA
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Well for me, at least I am in HOPES... It crashed on me.

Here is what is odd. I was running the other 280's on another np8150 I am returning as sager cross shipped for me (another story). And just yesterday for the first time they video driver crashed on me.

I saw some threads about it and figure bad drivers or even if bad GPU I didn't care as I am on this new lappy.

Well I installed Windows on this on Wed and installed the new beta drivers and today same thing happened on this laptop, windows said driver crashed.

So I rebooted the laptop, and while it was on the Windows logo screen loading the laptop just turned off. No reboot just off...

So I booted it back up and uninstalled the drivers and now are trying 175.50 in hopes it don't happen again. I will cry I think if this GPU is bad. This is my 3rd laptop replacement laptop in 2 months and finally everything seems perfect.

I saw some people on nvidia threads with issues so I really hope its driver. I cant tell what its related too. I see some people mention firefox and adobe flash, both of which I have on. I have always been in firefox when it did it on both lappys also, so wonder if FF6 and the drivers just dont play along?

Anyone else got any similar? Its said turning off hardware acceleration in FF fixes it but I don't want to have to disable that lol. Also with it being so random cant test with IE to see if any better because who knows if or when it may happen. I just hope it don't lol

 

Can anyone report how much fps they get on max settings in GTA4 with the GTX 580m?

 

yesterday installed and oc 775/2000
gonna do 0.92v today

 

Thanks DGDXGDG, we appreciate your posts here!
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hi budy,can i ask you something,the memory(1866 kingstown)where did you buy from?is it worth the money?
thanks!!!

 

Amazon and newegg have the ram..

Amazon.com: Kingston HyperX Plug n Play 8 GB Kit (2x4GB Modules) 1866MHz DDR3 SODIMM Notebook/Netbook Memory 8 Dual Channel Kit (PC3 15000) 204-Pin KHX1866C11S3P1K2/8G: Electronics

I got the 1600Mhz ver because didn't know about this one. My laptop came with 8GB 1600 so I got the other 8GB and its same brand and model sager uses even so worked out.

The Windows index gives me 7.8 on the memory, that faster memory gives you 7.9 which is max, so prob really like 8.0 and 1333 I think is 7.6 just to give you idea.

1600 is about $90 for 8Gb and the 1866 is about $123 per 8GB.

Now back to the topic

 

updated the benches in my SIG )

DGDXGDG, so what about 0.92v OC with the new drivers?

 

gonna take another psu back to home this week to do dual psu

 

At what resolution? I overclocked my 485m past the 580m stock speed and i barely got 30 fps with Crysis 2 in dx11 at 1080p.

 

1080p of course, could be the faster CPU and higher RAM that gives it a slight edge.

 

OK, today I got the replacement card and heatsinks (again 302\503 combo):

- Using the pre-applied Thermal paste it took 2 minutes to get to 96-97c in
Furmark

- Using ICD paste it took 3 minutes to reach 96-97c

Same setup as before. Room temp is 26c. Furmark BURN-IN test @1920x1080 Anti-alising OFF.
What`s going on here?
They said it is from a new shippment but apparently it was manufactured even before the first card and that one was from the very first batch of GTX580Ms...

What comes next...new fans, new mobo...i have no time for all this...begin to regret ever buying this Notebook... :cry:

 

Wow those temps are alarmingly high..

There may be something wrong with the fans?.. No?

 

Maybe both gpus are garbage...is there any software that reads the fanspeed correctly on the P170s?
What's the clockgenerator chip used on those anyway?

 

Furmark is a terrible way to test out temps. You will never see that type of load under normal benchmarks. What temps do you get running 3DMark or other synthetic non-Furmark tests?

Temps in the 90's are not unheard of with Furmark, so I wouldn't worry unless your synthetic benchmarks reach there as well.

 

Prema, did you try undervolting your card?

It got temps down for me, I used to have 90'c when playing games,

but after undervolting, now it's max at 80'c.

 

I "ordered" an undervolted BIOS from Mavke...temps in 11 and Vantage are also above 90c...

 

Yes please do not use Furmark to see if your temps are good or not. The factory DOES NOT use Furmark to test these cards. It is just not realistic at all.

Play intense games at high settings, use Vantage or 3DMark 11, etc. to check the temps....
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I don't intend to play any games on this machine. I require the GPU and CPU for video encoding and animation rendering work, which keeps the workload on both on 100% for many hours. So I am afraid that a system which triggers the NVIDIA "power limitation system" at 97c after 3 minutes of work won't last long...apart from that no one in this thread is experiencing such temps even with overvolt and highest overclocks and I am using ICD and a cooling stand on stock clocks and voltage...

 

OK got an 0,80volts on P0 (3D clocks) bios today...Furmark is on 96c again after 10min...wow what a bummer...

How do the temps sink on your P170HMs after a 10 min Furmark run? Mine are reducing very slowly (first a few degrees at once and then like a degree each second)...on my old M570U they sink very quickly...also how noisy is the FN-1 for you...compared to my old machine it is quite silent...guess something is wrong here with the cooling...

 

10min of Furmark is wow, way beyond what you will ever get while doiing any intense GPU work or play. 96C is understandable. ..
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I have a 6970m, but mine is pretty stable at 77'c in Furmark long runs..

96'c is under any circumstances, a bit too high.

 

Ryan, I think yours is the lowest I have seen running Furmark for long runs in a P150HM...@ 77C! I'm impressed!
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DUDE, that is with 0,8volts...the absolute minimum voltage, normaly used on the 75mhz 2D clocks...with Fans on max with notebookcooler running , ICD and stock clocks, people here get far below 90 with highest overclocks, no cooler, normal fan speed and overvolted at 0,92volts...spoke to a reseller today and they suggested to send the whole notebook back as it is not normal at all... CPU also reaches 92c on all cores after 3 minute superpi

 

Change KBC/EC.

 

Undervolting is awesome...

It just gives you temps you wouldn't normally get...

Anyways, 96'c is way too high, and there must be something wrong.. I suggest try sending it back to the reseller to get it checked.

 

Just for comparison, 6970m Furmark Run (8 min stock fan, 8 min fn+1)



At Stock : Max 76'c
After Fn+1 : Gets down to 66'c

*End lifted, AC room at around 23'c~

 

I feel a let down coming...I thought that temp was too good to be true.
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I am still trying to figure where the 580m temps come from...


I will do other Benchmarks on the new card later today.
The old card/Heatsinks had these results:

Final Fantasy Benchmark (Lalafell): 93c
Heaven DX11 Bench: 93c
3DMark Vantage: 94c
3D Mark 11: 93c


Could someone with a P170HMx kindly install Sisoft Sandra and read the Board Temperature on Idle under the "Tools" - " Environment Sensors" section?

Mine shows 68c Mobo temp while doing NADA!

 

Hello

I have a P150HM and a GTX580M
same temp as Prema in Furmark: 96-97c at stock in 2 minute
Under furmark temperatures don't increase (same as stock) with OC at 720 CORE /1700 MEM (max stable OC)
Under furmark temperatures don't increase with OC at 760 CORE /1800 MEM (stable under furmark but instable under Unigine benchmark:artifact)

Heaven DX11 Bench: 88c at stock
Heaven DX11 Bench: 92c OC 720 CORE /1700 MEM
Heatsink 302

I've repaste the card with artic silver 5, I got same temperature.
I ve also flash the motherboard bios and EC/KBC with latest release, but it change nothing.

GTX580M is a low clocked GTX560TI which max temperature is 99 degree, so i think that the card doesn't risk anything at medium term. But in long term it will be another story.
The temperature of Bonnie.Clyde OC/OV are very impressive, i am jealous.
I think that we have no luck, probably we have 580M with the worst die quality.
I ve found the same difference in temperature between different 560TI in many review, some could hit 96 degrees and others 68 degrees. 560TI has higher frequencies but also better heatsink than gtx580m.

 

^^^^Yes the temps are not good. What does your dealer/reseller say about this?

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I must contact them monday or tuesday ... but i m little affraid about the answer cause i haven 't got crash or bsod with the PC.

But you, as Clevo reseller, could you confirm that the heatsink model is correct for a 580m?

Thanks

 

Yeah. That is really strange.

I am running a GTX 580m in an Alienware M17x R3. Temps in Furmark have not exceeded 67 degrees

 

Lately the SAGER factory has been shipping the 204 version of the heatsink for this model.
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"Yeah. That is really strange.

I am running a GTX 580m in an Alienware M17x R3. Temps in Furmark have not exceeded 67 degrees"

I don't know if this is your case but they are some problem of throttling with the 580m on alienware. On M17xR3 when the 580m reach a temperature threshold the frequencies are automatically falling. So 580m couldn't reach high temperature. The problem was that the threshold is so small that in some games it was reach causing framerate falling. I don't know if dell have solve this problem, they have put a new bios for gtx580m in their website.

But, i m agree my temp and prema temp are too high, if it was under 90c but it was upper ... and the limit is 99 C.

"Lately the SAGER factory has been shipping the 204 version of the heatsink for this model. "
Have you got some client that have this problem of temperature and do you have some recommendation for clevo to replace heatsink model 302 to 204 version?

Have a good weekend

 

203,204 Heatsinks are supposed to be for 6990s...580m has 302, 303 with 503 combos...Is there any reseller who could do a 302,303 Heatsink comparision like weight and photos. I would even pay extra just to get these temps down.

Hope that I will find some time to test the replacement card today or tomorrow...it heats up a tad slower but still reaches 97c, which is btw the temperature where the Nvidia Power Limiter kicks in, so it can`t go any higher:

[GPU-Z Test Build] Disable power limiter on GTX 580 - techPowerUp! Forums

 

Hi folks,

I've been reading that the 580m throttles at 97 degrees. I'm guessing in order to maintain stability at high temps and not cause the system to reboot.

I would like to have a play with these values.
I'm aware of the risks of bricking my system but what methods/tools can I use to edit my video BIOS?

 

3dmark11 basic benchmark score: 3416

580m stock clocks (620,1500) 280.26 drivers
i7 2720qm

How's the above look? 3dmark11 thinks I'm just about average for the configuration I have.

 

http://forum.notebookreview.com/sager-clevo/584665-gtx-580m-98.html
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 580 570 560 460 ATI Radeon HD 6970 6950 6870 5970 :: MVKTech :: On the Edge of Technology - Re:tweak GTX580M BIOS voltage - MVKTech Support Forums

 

Yes, I read that as well, but I haven't been having that issue. There are two versions of the R3 out right now. One has a third cooling vent on the underside of the system directly under the GPU. Seems to be helping temperatures. Allegedly there is a new GPU cooling setup for the revised R3 as well. Anyhow, I haven't had any throttling issues and most posts on the topic seem to be from users who got the R3s in the Summer. The fall units came with the new vent and different RAM configuration. I am assuming there were other internal changes.

 

That's because Nvidia implemented a throttle algorithm for Furmark and as soon as your card get's close to 70C it will automatically throttle down

I bet if you run Vantage the temp will be a little higher. Also, M17xR3 has an outstanding cooling, at least for the GPU.

 

Hello Guys

Some news:

I contact my reseller and this was his answer: (beware google translate)

"gtx580m graphics cards can go up to 107 degrees before thermal break.

The couple of 2860qm and GTX580M push p150hm to the maximum in term of heat dissipation.

They are two solution for you:

- Reduce the graphics settings in games to relieve a little the GPU
- Add a Enermax notebookcooler to breathe the machine a little "

So because my pc doesn't crash and doesn't reach the thermal break (i don't know if it's the correct term) they will do nothing.

So i have made some mod in my p150HM
First i repaste GPU with IC24 (before artic silver 5)
second i replace original thermal pad with phobya thermal pad
On Sale, buy Phobya - heat conduction pad for memory cooler - 120x20x1mm - 5 w/mk Thermal Pad for Memory Module Heatsink or Waterblock

Third: I made an airduct with aluminium scotch like here (it's not my pc on the photo, it's just for illustrate) :
P4G / Du "Scotch" Sur le ventirad? 150HM

Now it's time for some temp (keep in mind that you don't have to compare with alienware because they have different heatsink. Furmark push the gpu to the limit and doesn't represent temperature in real game) Some P150hm P170hm have the same issue: Max 580M temperature - NVIDIA Forums )

Before modification:
Ambient temperature 25c
"same temp as Prema in Furmark: 96-97c at stock in 2 minute
Under furmark temperatures don't increase (same as stock) with OC at 720 CORE /1700 MEM (max stable OC)

Heaven DX11 Bench: 88c at stock
Heaven DX11 Bench: 92c OC 720 CORE /1700 MEM "

Now with modification and without notebookcooler:
Ambient temperature 24.5c
Temp in Furmark: 93c at stock in 10 minutes (before 97c in two minutes)
Temp in furmark 95c-96c with OC at 721 CORE /1700 MEM (max stable OC)

Heaven DX11 Bench: 74c at stock (ten minutes)
Heaven DX11 Bench: 79c OC 720 CORE /1700 MEM (ten minutes)
3Dmark2011 : 75c at stock
3Dmark2011 : 81c OC

With notebookcooler zalman NC3000 you could remove even one or two degrees

This card is very powerfull the only game unplayable at max setting is metro 2033 (the book by Dmitry Glukhovsky is awesome)