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    Has anyone tried the Tesla M6 MXM

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by Damin, Aug 28, 2020.

  1. PhOeNiX_H

    PhOeNiX_H Notebook Consultant

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    So, I bought the GPU from the seller you've recommended, @Keep Guessing . I'll try on my Clevo P150EM, but I also found a Precision M6700 for $168, so I bought that too, lol.

    It worked on M6800 and M6600 with the same driver modifications, right? What did you need to change?
     
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    Nvidia Tesla M6 works on my P150HM & P170EM.
    message me if you need help with yours.
     
  3. PhOeNiX_H

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    Weird. I tried to use on my P150EM and it didn't boot at all. I have no idea if my GPU is actually defective or if that's a bios issue. My bios is Prema v1.02.17PM v2, so I don't think so.

    P150HM is a little different, but P170EM is just an "oversized" P150EM, so it should work, I guess.

    Still, I kinda don't need that anymore with Quadro P4000, but I'll try to install on a future Precision that I know for sure that will work, or at least it's supposed to.
     
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    i use the latest stock Bios, cause i don't have Prema one.
    didn't got any isuses just a little driver .inf mod that's all.
    my vBios version is 84.04.8F.00.0C. didn't saw another one.
     
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    Works on the HM is much more surprising. No igp and the HM series is PICKY.
     
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    I agreed, the P150HM was really a Nightmare Model.
    i am quiet surprised he actually boot up with this Card.
    Cards like 670MX, 770M, 870M, 980M and K4100M, he didn't wanted to boot up.
    at Quadro M4000M and M5000M he Boot up, also you could Install the Driver (of course only with mooded .inf) but the Card wasn't usable. Driver Error Code 43.
    Only a Radeon 8970M/R9 M290X worked without any major problems.

    Sometimes i don't understand the Clevo Notebooks.
    for example, my P170SM-A can handle every Geforce Card. (some of then with mooded .inf) but at Quadro K4100M, M4000M and M5000M i get Driver Error Code 43.
    the Quadro K4100M i could use after Install. after reboot i got only Driver Error Code 43.

    The P150SM-A what is comparable with the P170SM-A can use all the Quadro Cards without problems.

    And a P150EM got only at Quadro K4100M a Driver Error Code 43, other Quadro cards works well. he works at the moment with a 980M 8GB.

    I bought the Tesla M6 on Ebay cause was cheaper as the GTX 980M. and i wanted also a 8GB card for my P170SM-A
     
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    What do the outputs do on the HM with it hooked in with the Tesla?
     
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    Not Tested, Internal Display seems to work, that was enough for me.
    can't tell about DVI and HDMI-out.
     
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    So LVDS output is working at least, interesting.
     
  10. Keep Guessing

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    That was just initial testing, I've updated some other titles working to full affect :). The magic was Nvdmi.inf, although the NVCleanstall base, most of the included driver .inf files are just simply manufacturer models (Nvdwmi.inf?). Theoretically, you could pull off installs across a few different manufacturer models within the .inf lists, but this may cause issues across different BIOS releases and changes.

    Awesome, although you'll have to rebandage all the CPU paste (I went with Gelid Ultra Pads), and use the laptop casing in order to hold the card firmly in place (considering I didn't look before leaping, and this particular one don't have mount pins lol).

    Indeed, 6700 works well! Grats on nabbing A 6700 @ that price :). Sadly, I wish I could provide more info regarding the Clevo P150EM, but have recently (yesterday, in fact), made a move stateside to London, and don't have the hardware to test thoroughly to help.

    A further step, you may revert to stock BIOS and give that a shot, and update should that prove the same results, and attempt again. If not, may be to try force install with a Clevo driver package for a card that closely matches it's specs (980GTX and M5000M aren't far off, but not 100% what this BIOS/Model is friendly with), prior to actually installing the card. Sorry to hear it's giving you issues!

    Thank you! I hope we can get this bad boy up and kicking arse on your end as well!
     
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    Hi, great to hear you made it work with P150HM and P170EM.

    Could you share us a guide on how to do it?

    I just bought a Korean variant of the P170EM and it's called Sparq X73 it comes with Gtx 670m and I would like to upgrade it to Tesla M6 too.

    Could you let me know the exact model of your Tesla M6?
    I want to buy from an ebay seller and it seems he is selling 3 variants?

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/174561020358

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/174439750778

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/174498809917

    UPDATE: https://www.ebay.com/itm/174439750778 and https://www.ebay.com/itm/174498809917 are the same listing, both have the same VBIOS as pasted on the sticker compared to the first one.


    There is a difference in between the model numbers in the GPU die:

    https://pasteboard.co/JNlgPlH.jpg
    https://pasteboard.co/JNlh5Cj.jpg
    https://pasteboard.co/JNlhi9o.jpg

    I'm just a noob so please feel free to correct me :p

    If you can let me know which one is exactly like your Tesla M6, I would appreciate :)
     
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    I bought the first one. It didn't even boot on my P150EM. I thought the real issue is about not being compatible, but now I have a Precision M6700 and it also doesn't boot with this card installed. Now I don't know if the card is just defective or if it doesn't boot because it has a vbios made for HP Servers. My card came with a package saying that "this card is for HP Enterprise Servers only and warranty will be void if used on another system".

    I have a CH341A programmer that I bought a while ago for flashing a custom bios on my Thinkpad T440p. If it's possible to flash a different vbios on Tesla with that (and, of course, if this is exactly the reason why is not booting), I'm also interested to know how to do it.
     
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    Thanks for letting me know. I wonder why it's not working in your system while others made it work. It's also strange that the same seller is selling His Tesla m6 with different prices. the one you bought is $99 while the other 2 of his listings are at $119 and one of it says M5100M.

    Also, the $99 you bought, this one's VBIOS pasted on the card's sticker is BIOS Ver: 84.04.85.00.07

    the other 2 $119 are basically the same gpu's. They have this sticker: BIOS Ver: 84.04.8F.00.0C

    Another seller ( https://www.ebay.com/itm/NVidia-Tesla-M6-8GB-GPU-Video-Card-808409-001-806127-001-GM204-995-A1-805132-B21/283970169668?ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2055359.m2763.l2649) is selling the Tesla M6 with the same BIOS Ver: 84.04.8F.00.0C


    If anyone who was able to make their Tesla m6 work, could share with us the current VBIOS of their card.

    UPDATE: as posted by Wishiwashi previously, his Vbios is also 84.04.8F.00.0C. Maybe the working version is the one with this Vbios?
     
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    I have nothing to lose, so I'm willing to flash this vbios with my programmer.

    Seems like you can download it here: https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/225011/225011

    I just have no idea how to do it. I'm not sure if it's the same process that you do with a desktop GPU or something. Just because I have nothing to lose, it doesn't mean that I'll Leeroy Jenkins it, lol.
     
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    Same process, just check the programming voltage of the chip and take a full dump of it.
     
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    Goodluck man! let us know how it goes :)
     
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    Well, bad news. It's not impossible to flash (I think), but you can't make any contact with the programmer because the chip is too deep.

    I'm not sure if actually exists any kind of programmer made for situations like this. The only way to actually do the flashing is probably desoldering, then connect to the programmer and finally (after flashing) soldering again.

    I know absolutely nothing about soldering, so I'm afraid I can't do anything about it and this card will probably be shelved somewhere in my room. I could try to return it (and then buying the other card with different vbios), but I have no idea if the seller would be fine about returns, especially if I'm being honest.
     
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    Is it the bga style chip? They do make them more difficult.
     
  19. PhOeNiX_H

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    Eeyup. That's the one.

    [​IMG]

    And I presume the chip that I've marked with red square it's the vbios chip. If so, the programmer won't cut it.
     
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    Yes, that's the one.
     
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    Well, even if it works, it's just not worth the cost. You can find a 1660 Super on Taobao for something like $550 to $600 and not only it will perform better, but also it'll have HDMI/DVI/DP outputs.

    I have no idea if 1660S will work on Clevos or older laptops like Precision M6700/M6800, but it's the same situation for this Tesla.

    If it costs $400 or less, then we can talk about it.
     
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    Where did you find it on Taobao?
     
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    Eeyup. It's good that you can actually find them for sale.

    I don't even bother buying this RTX 2060, tho', because its TDP is almost 200W. I'm pretty sure this poor heatsink from Precision M6700 won't handle it, even if it works.
     
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    The RTX 2060 is definitely no-go. The 1660 Ti, however, seems ok at 120W. It's approx $650 on tao bao. I also emailed perfectron for a price.
     
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    Get the 2060 and clock curve modify it :p

    Create your own max-q.
     
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    Got myself a Tesla M6 for my m6700 aaaand it isn't picked up in devices like at all. nvflash can't see it for flashing a bios to it either.

    So that's weird
     
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    Which version is your vbios? Usually it has a sticker on card itself.

    I have a Tesla M6 here that makes laptop impossible to boot. Tried on M6700 and on Clevo P150EM, same behavior on both.
     
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    Is the core/heatsink getting warm?
     
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    Hey all, I feel like I'm necro'ing the post with this late update :).

    I just wanted to alert the media, I'll probably be moving out of one of my Dell Precision 6800's, with the Tesla M6 already installed and working correctly. I've moved over to Westminster, and have way to many gadget's laying around, looking to downgrade to the Beelink GTR 5 or 7 hopefully before to long.

    If interested, throw me a shout!
     
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    Hi guys,
    I made Dell M6700 and M6800 work with this M6 GPU, VBios is 84.04.8F.00.0C.

    For me was a bit unclear why it works with Dell but not with HP Zbook 17 G1.

    PhOeNiX_H could you share you're VBios of your M6 ?
     
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    Have you uploaded a dump of the vbios for those who might have the wrong one?
     
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    I had a mini panic attack. After stress testing the card for 1 minute using Heaven benchmark, my screen froze and when I reboot, I was getting beep sounds in windows and my Tesla M6 isn't detected. I removed the card and reseated it. It's working again. I've done a heaven benchmark stress test again for 20 minutes and no issues. Hopefully it won't crash again.

    I've uploaded the correct VBIOS (84.04.8F.00.0C) to anyone who might need it:

    https://www.mediafire.com/file/4a7b0565fyolsxx/TeslaM6VBIOS.rom/file
     
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    Techpowerup also has a repository which will last a long time.
     
  38. FoxxxyLady2293

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    Testing in ZBOOK 17 G2, he is not detected. Only HD 4600.

    He has VBIOS 84.04.8F.00.0C.

    Interestingly, M4000M works fine with MOD driver.

    Sorry for poor English, I use a translator.
     
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    Was the m4000m from an HP model?
     
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    Yes, he has the HP stickers on the PCB.

    HP assigns his PCIe ID by MOTHERBOARD.

    So, ZBook 17 G2 have MOTHERBOARD 2255

    ZBook 15 G2 REV2 have MOTHERBOARD 2253, he has NVME.

    ZBook 15 G2 REV1 have MOTHERBOARD 1909, he has MSATA.

    This is why driver inf MOD is necessary, for he comes with PCIe ID of the original intended laptop, but when you put him into a different laptop, his new ID is assigned by his SYSTEM, and not his original ID.

    By removing CD/ROM connector from motherboard, this allows you to install MXM 3.0B card into MXM 3.0A slot. GPU is limited to 75W and will power throttle.

    M4000M has PCIe ID 10DE 13F9 8109 103C.

    When I install him into ZBOOK 17 G2, his ID is 10DE 13F9 2255 103C.

    When I install M4000M into ZBOOK 15 G2 NVME, his PCIe ID is 10DE 13F9 2253 103C.

    When I install M4000M into ZBOOK 15 G2 MSATA, his PCIe ID is 10DE 13F9 1909 103C.

    Do you understand this?
     
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    Yeah most laptops form their ID like that but there can be deeper changes like sensor data format between GPUs.
     
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    Can you help me. Tell me, where is this ifn mod, small to take? or how to do it? and the driver should be installed from Geforce GTX 980, or Tesla? write what driver and what inf to do? Clevo p157sm.
     
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    Try a set from laptopvideo2go.com
     
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    installed Tesla m 6 in Clevo P157SM., everything worked. Thanks for attention. furmarkTeslaTestok.jpg
     
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    Hope to get working in ZBook 17 G2, but sadly, CAPS LOCK and NUM LOCK flash 4 times, indicate board failure, but no such failure exists. Same with MXM 1050 Ti.
     
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    Nice work :)
     
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    I have small problem.

    Few weeks ago, I install 120Hz eDP screen into ZBOOK 15 G2. Small problem then, no brightness adjust. So I update his BIOS, and problem fix.

    Then, I order ZBOOK 17 G2, and move all component like SSD, RAM, etc.

    ZBOOK 17 G2 has problem, hybrid graphics DISABLE gives black screen after driver install.

    Before ZBOOK 15 not have this problem, but now he does!

    Also, Driver 465.89 does not need INF mod, if install from Device Manager > Have Disk.
     
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    and I installed the driver for Tesla m in Clevo laptop, from the task manager. just before that I corrected the inf file. two files. maybe it is not necessary to correct it, I don’t know, but I corrected it before installing. but about other laptops, I know little, except Clevo. I cannot help on this. test results comparison with gtx 970m, in 3dmark.
     

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