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    M860TU will break 13k at 3DMark06 with GTX 260M

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by MikjoA, Aug 17, 2009.

  1. FxPower

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    WOW it's amazing scores with your m860tu. Congrats!
    Just wondering, I read somewhere it's hard to overclock much on m860tus. How did you manage to clock by such a margin with x9100 and qx9300?
     
  2. MikjoA

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    With setFSB, I used an other PLL, it also work for M570TU.
    Use the RTM-876-660.

    Get FSB (do nothing ) click on Set FSB ( do nothing ) it will fisrt reduce your CPU speed , but after 10 second , it will increase it ! it will overclock ur CPu of 8% , your ram of 8% and ur GPU/shader of 8% ( so when u do it be sure u are running GPU stock speed.

    But I guess it's risky to use an other PLL ! so becarefull !
     
  3. Mr.M.A

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    congratulations on your scores!


    and unfortunately this PLL didn't work for me

    after 10 seconds it just restarts :mad:

    if i find a way to OC it more than 2.9, i think i'll hit 14k in 3Dmark06 :eek:
     
  4. MikjoA

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    It's normal it is restarting I guess.

    You should try to use CPUGenie first then set MAX voltage for ur QX9300, and maybe set a low multiplier first do not allow max multiplier first.

    if it reeboot try several time , and once u managed to overclock it, even after restarting it's still overclocked , but after few restart it goes back to normal.
    I had overclocked my X9100 @ 3,3 Ghz and then installed XP when it was installed i noticed it was still overclocked LOL O___o

    But before using this PLL ! becarefull with ur card it also verclock it of 8% , at stock frequency , 580 Mhz it's like if u had set 630 Mhz ! maybe it shut down because of that.
    I 'm almost sure it can work on ur M570TU , try to disable bios overclock / or put it 1X , then go for 2X it worked on my M570TU ( but it's the old M/B revision I dunno if it has any importance )

    Maybe it's simply ur laptop doesn't have supply enough ... do you have any lags when QX9300 @ 2,9 Ghz and GTX 280M overclocked when running crysis ? because I had with my M860TU but only when overclocked QX9300 , my overclocked X9100 runs fine there's no lag I guess it's because it's less consuming.
     
  5. Mr.M.A

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    Thanx a lot

    although it is scary to play with a 1000$ toy, i would give a second try

    it might be a lack of power supply, but mine didn't have any kind of lag at all even after hours of GTAIV with GPU overvoulted @(660-1000-1650) and cpu @ 2.9

    btw they say that ICS9LPR395 is the PLL for the M570ETU, but i couldn't find a way to add it! is there a way?
     
  6. eazy_e

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    how the heck did you overclock so high. 3dmark crashing on me(vertex buffer error) if I overclock beyond 600/960/1510. I have the g71gx-rx05 and I know that it comes underclocked stock. is their a way to make it more overclockable? and is my card undervolted when its at 0.95v?
     
  7. Kevin

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    Every 260M is different. Mine can't handle memory clocks over 900MHz, even though it's overvolted.

    edit: and wth, I want that white keyboard!!!
     
  8. Mausimo

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    I thought the M860TU could not handle the Core 2 Quad? I thought you had to have the M860ETU.... if the M860TU will actually handle a Core 2 Quad im upgrading asap!
     
  9. Eivind

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    M860ETU is no official name. Clevo and the rest of the resellers still name it as M860TU, I think. M860TU in the community doesn`t support QC, only ETU :)

    Your motherboard revision is what counts.
     
  10. big_eazy

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    I know this is an old topic..

    But I broke the vantage gpu record of 6100..

    I got 6329 Pgpu @ 710/1030/1775...very unstable in games though..

    stable clocks of 650/1010/1580 I get 6050 3dmarks


    260m is still alive and kicking..
     
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    I wonder how many of us have broken 13k at this point.
     
  12. Kevin

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    I haven't bothered, but I guess I'll go do it right now, since you mention it.

    I wanna be one of the cool kids.
     
  13. HTWingNut

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    I don't care either way. My games run fine. I figure I'll overclock as soon as I can't play the games I want at frames I want. Right now it's just Starcraft 2 and Civ 5 which run great maxed out. Ok well SC2 on high, but I don't need to see my butt in Ultra settings as it's handed to me.
     
  14. Daniel Hahn

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    I've been wondering... I ran SC 2 on ultra settings + 1080p and it was fully fluently, always above 30 fps. I guess it must be my CPU that makes the difference then.
     
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    Yeah, Ultra runs ok, just an occasional hiccup with intense action. To be honest I can't really tell the difference between the two, at least during gameplay, so I just bump it down a level.
     
  16. Kevin

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    Hmm, I set my Q9200 to 3Ghz, 260M at 600/1500/900.

    Surprisingly, I only hit 12k.
     
  17. big_eazy

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    yea I might get better vantage scores that the OP, but his 3dmark seems a bit high..

    at 3.1ghz and 650/950/1580 i got something like 11900..

    I think he cheated.. with 3dmark06

    edit..

    sometimes people use mipmap tweaks set to like 20 (reduces image quality to boost scores)

    and I feel the same way aas ht wingnut...

    I play sc2 at ultra and high and its playable...good enough


    in fact the 260m still plays everygame i can find on high settings, so i think its safe to say its future proof until the neext generation of consoles comes out..

    also kevin, drivers can make a huge differance in vantage and 3dmark, dox 185.85 nets the best gaming fps no joke..i tested it quite a bit

    and with 185.85 on vantage i was getting 5850 every single time i tested, i downgraded to dox 185.20 it its stuck at 6050..

    edit again..

    kevin, I have the g71gx and its cooling is kinda crap..its gpu voltage stock is something like 0.95.. iv'e tested it under set conditions and have been gaming at 1.05 volts for over 6 months without a hitch.. so you can trust me when I say, Instead of upgrading to a 5870 or 6870, just overvolt your gpu to 1.05v and overclock to something like 700/1000/1750..

    its well worth it, at stock clocks with a custom config I tested to see how much of a differance the overclock makes... at stock i was gettign 20 fps at a particular spot, i minimized window and overclocked card back up, and fps was at 30.. so it went from unplayable to prefectly payable.. mafia 2 went from 34 fps to 51.1 fps...

    gothic 4 is the only game out that i have to lower setting to the point where it looks nothing like veryhigh or high and get 30fps average..and the games sucks anyways
     
  18. Eivind

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    unfortunately, not everyone got a golden overclocker...
     
  19. big_eazy

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    my gpu sucks for overclocking, i can only get 570/970/1470 semi stable at normal voltages.

    Increasing the voltages allow you to overclock quite a bit more, something like 40mhz core for every 0.05v added
     
  20. Kevin

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    Right.

    I am overvolted, and my memory is still unstable past 900MHz.
     
  21. Blacky

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    It might be due to the MXM port. Remember that MXM 2.1 is limited in the amount of bandwidth that it supports. This is why memories in MXM 2.1 GPUs were clocked at 800 MHz although their official specification was 1 GHz. (Conclusion: you also needs a good MXM port :) not just GPU for a good OC).
     
  22. Tirenz

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    That´s an interesting point, Blacky, I wondered why they downclocked the vRAM on the cards.
    Nevertheless, on my few days old GTX 280m (MXM 2.1 in M571TU) it took the greatest results when I overclocked my vRAM, I did it without overvolting up to 1050 MHz. It ran the 3DMark and I played a couple of games, they went fine so long. As soon as I get the shaderclocks higher than 1600 I´ll get problems though, I didn´t try out the CPU clocks higher than 650... maybe I will later...
    So really every card seems to be quit different. I know here we´re talking about GTX 260m, but I think the RAM is not that different...
     
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    Should run it in standard 1280x1024, not 800.
     
  25. Kevin

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    My results: (Vista, 1280x1024 - q9200 @ 3.3GHz, fx 3700m @ 600/1500/950)
    3dmark 13,326
    sm2 5594
    sm3 5381 :confused:
    cpu 4586 ...yeah...

    it wont let me submit right now for some reason.

    i'd like to note that if the bandwidth of MXM slots can be a limiting factor, it would be worth overclocking with setFSB because it will increase the PCI-E bandwidth.
    am i right?

    This fx 3700m is really surprising me. I'm beginning to think it was more of a rev. a2 gtx 280m that they decided to give to HP as an fx 3700m. I mean, the other 4 i've had wont OC for crap.
    Since GPU-Z reports it as 55nm with a gtx 280m bios, i really have no idea... its at 1.05v but maybe it will work at 1.03...
     
  27. big_eazy

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    13,326 is pretty impressive, I think thats what the overclocked mobility 5870 gets with a decent over clock, 800/1100.

    edit.

    I can break 6000 gpu on vantage, but still have yet to score over 12k in 3dmark...im thinking its my cpu holding me back from getting 12k
     
  28. niffcreature

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    you should get an ES cpu with unlocked multipliers. :p

    Right now its my power adapter thats holding me back. I just figured out that my 280m OC is stable at 1.03v.
    Whereas at 1.05v my system wont start again after stress until I cycle it. that is with my q9200 @ a hot 1.31v 3.3ghz.

    I just hit 13,728 with winXP tho

    so.. yea basically just keeping this thread alive for the white keyboard thing and until theres an "m860tu will break 14k" thread ;)
     
  29. moral hazard

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    GPUz does the same thing when I use a 280m vbios.

    I wouldn't trust GPUz.
     
  30. niffcreature

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    yeah, well it does run overclocked and stable at 1.03v right now, i just feel like theres no way to tell.

    GPU-Z doesn't read the voltage right now, and its coming up everywhere as a 180m :eek: i think i screwed up the drivers... im so driver dumb lol...
     
  31. big_eazy

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    niff creature

    if you want to break 14 k.. try dox 185.20 performance drivers

    i was getting 5850 in vantage and then when i switched it jumped to 6023

    we should create a thread that is like...

    260m gtx breaks 8k in vantage thread or like u said 14k
     
  32. big_eazy

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    so happy today.. I finally broke 12k

    with this:

    [email protected] mhz
    gtx 260m @1.05v @ 640/1020/1570 with dox 185.20 performance drivers
    vista 64bit

    sm2.0 score=5715
    sm3.0 score=5485
    cpu score =2685

    total score =12039 @ 1440x900 which is basically the same as 1280x1024
     
  33. theriko

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    hehe, I just broke 12k on a M570RU with an 8800M GTX... look at my sig ;)

    This machine is damn near 3 years old now...
     
  34. Kevin

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    How did you get your Q9200 at 1.31v? Pin mod?
    Which Core 2 Duo do you have?

    You should put the specific model in your sig.
     
  35. big_eazy

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    Holy crap 12 k with the 8800m gtx??

    What clocks for cpu and gpu??

    and kevin im using a p8700

    8800m gtx should be future proof for another 3 years lol..talk about a future proof card when you bought it..
     
  36. Maxrunner

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    I have the m860tu with a lower cpu but i installed the m260 gtx. Im having some issues, the games get periodic stattering, dont know why and when watching videos or movies they also statter too....dont really know what may be the cause...are there some "popular" issues?
     
  37. big_eazy

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    just about every gpu stutters lol...

    when I play any any game it will run at 30fps then drop to 9 fps or so for a second then bounce back up...pretty common..

    try differant drivers..

    I suggest dox 185.20
     
  38. Paralel

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    I find the stuttering you are talking about is usually caused by having to load graphics data from the HD to the GPU. The CPU & GPU demand data at a rate which is faster than the HD can provide. To check this quickly glance at your HD when you see the stutter, you'll probably see your HD is reading at that moment. I ran into the same problem until I switched to a C300 SSD. Problem solved.
     
  39. niffcreature

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    ThrottleStop ;)

    I'm not using those drivers cause I'm on winXP. You should try it, you'll probably hit 12.5k. You should also go with 1280x1024 just cause.

    I have dox's 181.2 but I will try his latest for XP 185.68 in a second.
    I know I can hit 14k, I just don't want to burn out my CPU. I know it already goes up to 90c in a few minutes at 3.3ghz, but I'm sure its the bottleneck...

    What I need is a damn overclockable dual core... I just bought 3 freaking ES cpus and they're all decent but I can't unlock the multipliers!! :mad:


    On the other hand I have never tried this GPU past 600/1500.
     
  40. niffcreature

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    Wait how the heck are you overclocking that p8700?

    An why haven't you increased the voltage and clocks to something ridiculous? 3.6 and you could easily break 13k
     
  41. Paralel

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    I started to artifact after 600/1500. You might have better luck.
     
  42. theriko

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    The breakdown is in my sig. It's highly biased to the cpu, the gfx card is still performing well though.

    CPU @ 3689MHz
    GPU @ 620 Core, 1000 Mem, 1550 Shader
     
  43. Kevin

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    Why doesn't ThrottleStop let me go any higher than 1.215?
     
  44. moral hazard

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    Hey can you upload your vBIOS for me?

    Also what is your max temp with furmark?
     
  45. Maxrunner

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    Yes but it also happens when viewing movies or hearing something from media play for example. In the games its like its cyclic....
     
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    Hey those of you using the FX 3700m did you buy the one pulled from a HP or Lenovo laptop sold on ebay?
     
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    I didn't but I think Moral did.
     
  48. big_eazy

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    also... if you guys are getting temps in the high 90's

    I did alot of research..

    I also and this will make you laugh..

    went into a memory express and got a clerk to open all the coolers i was interested in to check the airflow..was funny to me because their eyes and body language was no..lol

    anyways the best cooler out of all the zalmans(newest) and thermal take and noname coolers the best is....drum roll

    thermal take massive 23 LX..

    I'll put it this way, I already had a cooler.. and i wouldnt even consider selling this..

    last night i let crysis loop 50 times with my old great cooler, my temps maxed at 97 and prob still rising..

    after the temps dropped to like 60 i tested the thermal take cooler..

    after the same amount of runs my max temp said 85c im still thinking it was a glitch or something..

    but my temps dropped 12c which is alot.

    also, Iv'e never seen temps drop so fast after gaming it was like sticking my laptop in a freezer..it dropped like 1 deg a second which is amazing


    so if you own a laptop cooler and wish you had cooler temps.. buy the thermal take massive 23 cm cooler...IT is ill

    don't forget I own an asus, which has the worst cooling available, and I have overvolted my gpu to 1v from 0.95...1.05 still gets to hot...

    all i did with this laptop was completely dissassemble it to replace thermal paste with thermal take tg1...which works 3-4 degs cooler than arctic siler 5 in my testing..


    imagine if i put my laptop back to its undervolted underclocked values..

    50c max 23c idle lol

    also god bless overvolting and overclocking..

    when i first bought this laptop it was over 4 times faster than my old laptop..

    it scored 4400 in 3dmark vantage which got me so happy with the purchase.
    now I score 5873 with a edited vbois...i just start up computer and its their.

    I was going to spend 1700-1800 on a clevo or the asus g73jh like 10000000000 others...but i went with this becuase i got it for under 1000..

    however i took the risk thinking the hd5870 would only be slightly better, and i had never owned a nvidia gpu..

    pros.. I download alot fo and like to watch them at night on my iphone lol..hey gotta be honest..

    CUDA is amazing i swear to god it is the greatest invention...video encodes at like 400fps lol...before with my ati gpu it was like 9-30fps sometimes 60..

    physx is flippin neat, I like technology alot, the more the better..some games run like dirt others very fast..if you care about physics and realism go nvidia

    260m...all i can say is holy crap does this thing overclock and its a dud..one guy on youtube overclocked his to the point where he was averaging 22fps at 1920x1200 enthuusiast with 2xAA which to give you an idea...stock i average 18fps no aa at 900p..for some reason his memory goes up to like 1190 or something insane..i cant pass 1030 with crazy artifacting.

    long story short..i bought this laptop with the bigger screen in mind, faster gaming performance because im re addicted to gaming and something under 1000 dollars cause im poor with money management.

    my next laptop will prob be a sli solution so its either clevo or alienware..

    I figure you might be spending 3000 dollars but games will run 3 times better and the laptop could last you 6 years if your not to fussy about lowering shadows and drawdistances ect..

    im bored and need a friend lol
     
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