New 2012 Models Speculation Thread - PxxxEM Series (P151EM, P150EM, P170EM)

Where is the np9170em ivy bridge on xotic? I see the 3rd gen already on msi ge70

 

yeah i dont see 3rd gen IB on any of the resellers for Sager...

although i do see mythlogic has them up...

 

I heard from multiple sources that clevo resellers will start selling ivy bridge tomorroe midnight.

 

LPC-Digital has Ivy Bridge up.

 

powernotebooks.com also has them up

 

i thought that 660M was coming with Ivy bridge processors, also i'm waiting for xoticpc to update their site

 

Has anyone noticed that XoticPC has yet to post the prices of their configured Clevo based laptops with IB while other resellers like Malibal and Mythlogic already have?

I'm very disappointed! I'm seriously considering cancelling my order and going with a reputable competitor!

 

lmao xoticpc is a very reputable reseller.

i dont know why they havent updated their clevos, but they're updated everything else

 

JESUS CHRIST THEY UPDATED EVERYTHING BUT THE i7-3610

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On the xoticpc website, 8GB of 1600mHz and 12GB of 1333mHz run for the same price. From a gaming standpoint (i.e. no movie editing, etc) which would be preferable?

 

Both would be the same for gaming. I don't see too many people crossing 8gb of usage, and especially not with only gaming. That being said, why don't you consider the 16gb for $20 more? Real world performance difference really isn't noticeable except slightly on the iGPU.

 

Even 8 GB of 1333MHz RAM is sufficient enough for gaming. Save yourself an extra $50.

 

the only thing that makes the igp go faster is the speed of the ram, not the amount, that is valid on windows machines, in the mac you need to get to 8gb before it allocates more memory to the igp.

And yes it makes a noticeable difference from the 1333mhz to the 1866mhz in the IGP and ONLY there.

If you are using adobe programs intensively, more ram would lead to more performance.

 

I should've clarified that. That's what I meant, just didn't actually say it -.-

 

I'm not sure if you noticed, but the last 6 posts before you were all pointing that out.

Go ask pkhetan and see if you still have no doubts about them.

 

Thanks.

One more question, would there be any reason at all to upgrade the wireless card into something better? It seems to me that this would have no significant impact on anything, but I want to be on the safe side.

 

It would have an impact upgrading from stock to 1103/6300 because those are tri-antenna cards, would give you a longer range, and a better connection at range. If your router can handle 450 MBPs, then you also get more throughput. Between the 6300 and the Killer 1103 there isn't too much real world difference (Myth said that the 6300 was better for everyday tasks). I'm not too sure about the Killer 1102/6230 difference from stock though.

 

the card that comes I think it has 2x2 antenna array, the 6300 has 3x3, it will give it much more range and speed

 

uhh... sure. still going to stick with Xotic, anyway



and gahh... Xotic has i7-3610QM under the initial specs, but then in customization it still says i7-2670QM o.o

 

I just noticed that... is the current pricing on the xoticpc website for the 3610 or the 2670?

 

I finished chatting with someone at Xotic and there seems to be a little confusion as to what IB processor goes with the P150EM. I settled for the i7-3610QM, but not without some disappointment with the posting of specs. Somebody there needs to get it together before they start losing some sales!

 

lol i also chatted someone, and they're on it, fixing the specs.

 

What resellers carry the 150em for the USA? I know of xotic, malibal, and then there's powernotebooks I believe. Who else is there? Just trying to compare prices.

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add LPC Digital, mythlogic to that list too, eurocom, origin,

 

Im thinking they are doing this to try to get more 3720qm orders out of people...

 

Xotic PC finally fixed their specs. it says i7-3610QM now

 

Well, as long as you know.

They cost the same...

Mythlogic and LPC-digital are the others on these forums.

 

Not to be negative. Why is Myth logic considerable more expensive? I know they offer screen calibration, and upgraded thermal paste and the phoenix plan as a standard. Is it the additional testing? I like their vast selection for addons, but the $200 average difference is a turnoff. I'm looking to add a second laptop to got with my new 9170 ( the wife took it over). Don't get me wrong. They have awesome reviews. I just need more understanding.

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Mythlogic are Clevo builders and personally build and test each machine. I was able to visit their shop. It was basic and quaint with down to earth people. I think it's up to each person to decide if the extra money is worth it to them though. I think they're likely to help you out personally if you have an issue, call you to inquire, etc. Instead of sending it in to Sager with a note and hope they manage it properly. So I guess if you never have an issue, then it's not really all that worth it, but if you do, it might pay for itself.

Otherwise I think LPC-Digital and XoticPC will do what they can for you if you get a Sager branded product. They just don't have as much of direct control over it because they're not the ones building or fixing the machines.

 

The last piece of the puzzle for me is knowing if the Sager laptops will support that 1 watt power down feature on the 7970m. After that I'm set to make a purchase.

 

I may end up buying a 15.6" notebook later, but my DV6z will suffice for now. My NP6110 will be my on the go gaming powerhouse for a while. But I also want to see how the 7970m ends up working out with switchable graphics/power saving features.

 

Yeah I really wish we knew that as well. I think I'm going to go w/ the 7970 either way though. Does anyone know if I can order from Xotic w/ no hdd and how much that would save? I'd ask them, but they aren't available for chat right now.

 

Yes. They do have the option to sell you without the HD. I purchased mine without the HD 'cause I just picked up an SSd yesterday.

 

I narrowed my choice down to Malibal and Mythlogic based on the reputation/feedback on here. I made the choice to go with Mythologic solely due to the fact they offered full accidential coverage (for a extra price). I looked at Malibal's website and i couldn't find anything comparable. So that's another thing that may or may not be worthwhile.

 

I really hope we hear about the Enduro feature soon [the power saving feature that allows the card to power down to 1 watt]. I am ordering a P150EM with i7 3610 : 8GB DDR3 1333mhz RAM : 240GB Corsair Force 3 SSD : 7970M : Stock WiFi and other options.

Is it worth it to upgrade WiFi or does it work just fine? I will usually be using my phone to tether 4G internet to the laptop anyways so my WiFi hotspot will be within 1 foot of the laptop so I figure I don't need the Killer WiFi or w.e.

 

It's more than a little ridiculous that we don't know whether there's GPU switching with the 7970M. Sager has to have those details already.

 

Several companies, Sager included, are already reporting switchable graphics. We just haven't seen it in the wild yet.

"Switchable GPU by AMD Power Express - AMD Radeon™ HD Graphics / Intel® GMA HD GPU"

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(under specifications)

 

im having trouble on whether or not to get the 11.6" + monitor ( more mobile) or the 15" w/o monitor. what do you guys think?

 

Darn, now I'm justing waiting on the GTX Kepler gpus. Specifically 660M which I want and 680M.

 

I know how you feel Hellhog I want the 660M too, but I have asked several places and there is no ETA for this card, but seeing that Asus comes with 660M I don't understand why there isn't an option for Clevo's Notebooks.

 

But in that same column, Optimus is listed as a feature for both nVidia cards, while Power Express or whatever AMD's version is called is excluded from the 7970's features list.

 

Would it make you feel better if AMD power express was listed explicitly under the specs when comparing models?

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Honestly, it's in enough places on the Sager website that I don't think it's worth fretting over. It would be foolish for AMD to produce such a marvelous performing card that can't compete with Nvidia on discrete GPU switching...It would also be silly for Clevo to change the architecture on the EM to allow the dedicated GPU to be wired through the IGP for the implementation of Optimus but not AMD power express.

 

In short: yes.

And I didn't mean to be a pain in the , I just really want AMD's switching to work *fingers crossed*. After the 7970m's stats came out with the hacked together drivers even, I was incredibly impressed. Even if the 680m performs a bit better, I would be willing to bet it costs >$200 more than AMD's card. So I'm looking forward to see what the battery life on these models is like, especially the P150EM. Even 3.5-4 hours would be fine, any more than that would just be extra candy.

 

Same here.

 

Asus probably cut a deal to get 660ms early. I also really really want the P150EM to support 7970m graphic switching; I ordered one already with 3610 and 7970m haha.

 

why cuda cores of 670m is less than 660m?

 

670m = Fermi, 660m = Kepler

 

In other words, a Fermi core is more powerful than a Kepler core.

 

no .

 

yes they are