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    New 2012 Models Speculation Thread - WxxxER Series (W110ER, W150ER, W170ER)

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by gzhang, Feb 20, 2012.

  1. Geekz

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    Good to know! Thanks :D
     
  2. plancy

    plancy Notebook Evangelist

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    Wonder if it's affordable, like $500 for the cheapest config, I do need a ultraportable, since I think I might purchase a 17".
     
  3. Baenwort

    Baenwort Notebook Evangelist

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    Do any of you know if this will be offered with a Matte display option or will we be stuck with a Glossy display like every other gaming laptop in this size?
     
  4. joeelmex

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    I will like to see comparison from this to the new M11x. Cant wait to see the future.
     
  5. marine0089

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    Im just glad Clevo are coming to the Ultrabook party. Mainly because you know their Ultrabooks will kill all the others out there in terms of performance.

    A reasonably priced stylish ultrabook which could run games ticks all the boxes.
     
  6. Enpatsu

    Enpatsu Notebook Geek

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    W110ER is not thin as the ultrabook but the thickness is acceptable (much thinner than the previous M11x), getting a W110ER + a P150em at the same time will be the best pair of performing + portable :rolleyes: .
     
  7. plancy

    plancy Notebook Evangelist

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    That's what I've been saying!! :) except I'm probably getting a p170EM with 120hz screen. I'll probably end up getting the W110ER first if the 7970m/680m are not out before it's out..it'll probably beat the crap out of this Acer 4820tg
     
  8. Baenwort

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    Looking at the 640M numbers from this review it looks good for this being exactly the portable gaming laptop I'm looking for provided the build quality on the LCD lid is sufficient for me.

    I'm hoping to bring it in my pack and its going to be receiving pressure on the lid. Then it has to cope with my wife's tendency to place things ontop of the laptop when I leave it on a table. Between the two I really need a laptop with a lid that can diffuse pressure well so I don't keep on killing LCDs.

    Edit: This review has actual numbers on the 640M from a Acer.
     
  9. plancy

    plancy Notebook Evangelist

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    I really don't need a gaming ultrabook, am I right for going to Clevo for a well built affordable work laptop(Application development, simple Blender 3D rendering for openGL), or is there a better or equivalent choice? I'm getting a P170EM, soooo...it's not like its my only laptop, just need something to pull out in an instant, in class or at work.
     
  10. hizzaah

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    A reseller I talked to said there was some debate as to whether they were going to bump up to a 655M, or possibly go with something lower such as a 635M..
     
  11. Baenwort

    Baenwort Notebook Evangelist

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    To answer my own question it seems the w110er is not coming with a matte screen option. The same source(a re-brander named Logical Blue One) says it will come with a removable 6cell battery as default.
     
  12. plancy

    plancy Notebook Evangelist

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    I'll stick to Intel's HD 4000 and save $200 :p, it will probably still beat my 6550m(rebadged 5670m).
     
  13. Netherwind

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    640m beats a 6550m by a good bit, but an HD4000 does not.
     
  14. gamba66

    gamba66 Notebook Evangelist

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    probably because of heat ^^ also.. there is no 655m, but a 650m

    If you really want to do serious work, then do not get an 11.6 inch notebook, you should ATLEAST get a 12.5 notebook and even better a 13.3 inch notebook

    The clevo W110ER weighs 1.8kg and is huge compared to standard netbooks (also the m11x is huge yes), the gigabyte u2442 weighs about 1.4 kg and is a 14 inch notebook with a 640m, the p330 weighs 1.7kg and is a 13.3 inch notebook with a 555m.. just giving examples

    If I have learned one thing about notebooks, it is that screen real estate is one of the most important things.. I had owned an m11x and I must say you cant do any serious work or gaming on it, its simply too small.. and 768p is just right for 12.5 inch notebooks and 13.3 inch
     
  15. plancy

    plancy Notebook Evangelist

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    Still save several hundreds by just making it "OK" for work/school, I just hope the minimal is under my ultrabook budget.
     
  16. Netherwind

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    If you don't plan to game on it why not look at something more like the new asus ultrabooks? 13.3" 1080p IPS matte.
     
  17. plancy

    plancy Notebook Evangelist

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    Honestly, looking at under $700 atm, and with IVB. I think they might be $1k. I've been reading people praiseClevo affordability, so I'm willing to wait.
     
  18. AhPek00

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    err..i think what people saying is the affordability of Clevo in terms of gaming notebook :eek:
     
  19. plancy

    plancy Notebook Evangelist

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    I'll look into 12.5 ultrabooks, my 4820tg is 14inch and I need something a bit less wide for 1-2hrs of work at a time, that Fujitsu LifeBook Ultrabook is looking verryy appealing, I like the screen.
     
  20. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    Good news from our friends in China:

    It was confirmed that this little baby supports quadcore! Shipping date end of April. :)
     
  21. plancy

    plancy Notebook Evangelist

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    Sweett!! thanks :)
     
  22. gamba66

    gamba66 Notebook Evangelist

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    Its prolly the 3612qm, the 35W quad..

    Unbelievably that a 11.6 inch notebook features a quadcore plus a GPU stronger than the 555m. It must really run cooler
     
  23. Blacky

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  24. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    THX Blacky!

    Before people start a discussion >>> the quadcore support was only added on latest prototype that he got a chance to play with during the weekend... ;)
     
  25. jaybee83

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    holy s***, a 90W PSU for an 11" laptop! :D the specs are insane for such a small-factor-size machine, that especially includes the overall weight of 1.8 (!!!) kg. :p
     
  26. gamba66

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    Yes.. why do they try to compete with the m11x, instead of just making a better machine with a atleast 12.5 inch screen or even better, 13.3 inch screen..

    I think the notebook would be great if it would use a bigger screen, but only having an 11inch screen plus weighing 1.8kg is a damn shame.. Really, 11.6 inch is just too damn small for anything besides casual surfing, and who wants such a fat netbook??

    The gateway u2442 14 inch notebook, weighs only 1.4 kg in comparison and sports the 640m (with dual coolers, one for cpu and one for gpu) or the lg p330 weighs 1.7kg but has a 13.3 inch screen with a 555m (comparable, a bit weaker though than 650m, prolly round 10 - 15%)

    BTW the official spec sheet .pdf only features sandy bridge processors and doesnt really name the GPU which will be used (rumours claim 650m)
     
  27. plancy

    plancy Notebook Evangelist

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    That spec sheet is dated September 2011, I've seen it a while back.
     
  28. Baenwort

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    Hopefully more details will come out after the Kepler official release. I've tried talking to some of the resellers but they won't give out anything more.

    I'd much rather get this then the y470p but I'm getting antsy about some of the deals that are starting to show up. Even just a confirmation that it will be released with SB + Kepler and that we don't have to wait till IVB becomes available.
     
  29. Baenwort

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    Best that trying that got me was one of them saying to try again after April 1st :p
     
  30. jack-lbo

    jack-lbo Company Representative

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    What exactly did you want to know?
     
  31. Baenwort

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    If its going to come in a Sandy Bridge + Kepler form or if we will have to wait till Ivy Bridge is out for it to show up?

    Does it have a mSata or spare mPCIe slot? And if it has a spare mPCIe slot is it a full slot or just a USB slot?

    Those are the two that pop into my head first.
     
  32. gamba66

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    Will it use the 650m?
     
  33. Donald@Paladin44

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    The answers to the questions being asked are still under Non-disclosure, so please don't press resellers to discuss what they are contract bound to not discuss.
     
  34. jack-lbo

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    The answers to the questions being asked are still under Non-disclosure, so please don't press resellers to discuss what they are contract bound to not discuss.

    -According to who? Sager I bet.

    We are under no NDA for these from Clevo (as a direct Clevo Partner).

    I will answer your questions shortly, the best I can.
     
  35. Donald@Paladin44

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    The Non-disclosure is with both nVIDIA and Intel, and therefore also with Clevo. Any discussion of this model is in violation of these Non-disclosure agreements and should be stopped. As a "Gaming Notebook Specialist" you should know better.

    If they are not stopped they will be reported to the Notebookreview moderators, Intel, nVIDIA and Clevo.
     
  36. Geekz

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    well Prema definitely cleared up all the questions :D
     
  37. PC-Konsulten.se

    PC-Konsulten.se Company Representative

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    Yeah, why risk "leaking" anything when Asian resellers can do this for us :)

    As for the NDA discussion, I will have to second LBO in this case. There are no NDAs of any kind if you deal directly Clevo. I know Sager from time to time put up their own NDAs and we (our firm) respect those by not commenting, provided that we know of the NDA in the first place, even though we are not bound by them.

    However, there are also as Paladin says general NDAs from Intel and Nvidia. Those are applicable to everyone (even though I do not see what Intel has to do with an Nvidia graphics card?). Anyway, the situation in Clevos case is peculiar. NDAs are only applicable to people actually signing the agreement. Clevo does not inform direct parnters of important NDAs but they do still give out sensitive information. What this means is that in no case whatsoever can a reseller be held responsible for disclosing sensitive information. It is Clevo that would have to take responsibility. I do not see Clevo take action against resellers who brake NDAs they have never heard of by spreading information they have been told they could give away. What I do believe is that complaints would result in a change of policy.
     
  38. steberg

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    @PC-Konsulten.se, are we going to see W110ER in Sweden? I will certainly buy one...
     
  39. PC-Konsulten.se

    PC-Konsulten.se Company Representative

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    You will but W110ER is a bit behind schedule as opposed to P150/P170EM that will be right on time.
     
  40. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    The Chinese say end April, so it may be early May for the rest of the world.
     
  41. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    im wondering if they will have a 13'' model with similar specs and a higher res display, 11'' is just too small for me, and I only use my notebooks as my main pcs.
     
  42. jack-lbo

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    The Chinese say end April, so it may be early May for the rest of the world.

    Yes
     
  43. jack-lbo

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    Hey man, lighten up. Not everyone is living in corporate America on this forum.

    This is why I wanted to know what exactly these guys are after question wise. There is of course NDA from Intel and nVidia, but believe you me, there is nothing from Clevo. I see no harm in answering whatever questions that are not sensitive.

    The only reason I am on this forum is to help people, I am not here to sell anything or promote our services. Just to help those looking for answers and information.
     
  44. Enpatsu

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    OMG, due to Prema's post W110ER is a 11.6 inch laptop with 1080p screen? Wasn't it confirm as 720p screen before?
     
  45. gamba66

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    Well, we will have to see if the numbers are real

    Its just unbelievable that such a small notebook has such strong GPU power, the cooling must be unreal or the GPU must be super cool

    So lets wait and see if it really is as great as it sounds (because often when things sound too good to be true, they arent true xD)

    I mean the 650m with GDDR5 would even surpass the 560m quite a bit (by like 10-15%).. come on!

    And a 1080p screen ? Omg xD can anyone believe this? notebooks under 15 inch hardly even get 1440x900 or 1600x900 and then we get a 1080p 11.6 inch notebook with a GPU that outperforms the 560m
     
  46. robamb2002

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    Can someone point me to the source of the 1080p screen rumor? I thought that it was only able to output 1080p, not that it would HAVE 1080p. So far the only confirmed spec I have seen is the 1366x768 panel listed back in Sept '11. Can anyone confirm or deny this rumor (I'm assuming this info isn't under NDA as it has to do with neither the CPU nor the GPU)
     
  47. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    anyone? And how is the battery life rated on this note?
     
  48. plancy

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    Now you're just asking for too detailed information, I don't think this can be answered yet.

    I doubt that, even if there is a 1080p screen, it will be available internationally.
     
  49. Kevin

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    If there was a 13" SKU, we would've heard something about it by now.
     
  50. Cloudfire

    Cloudfire (Really odd person)

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    Hilarious to have that sort of power inside a 11" lol :p
     
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