New Clevos with Coffee Lake-S are here, P870TM, P775TM, P751TM

replace those crappy blue pads with fujipoly extreme thermal pads. 17.0 W/mK, sexy and expensive

 

He's already using those. Or was.

 

ewwww, heatsink got issue then bro

 

That's what a lot of us have been saying.
Though yeah our systems, that includes me,Prema, johnkssss, Fox ,etc. Have every important component making contact, since we know there are thermal pads for a reason. However stock systems have these things either way too thick or not making contact at all, which over time kills certain components. Along with the fact that Clevo heatsink QC is dog **** at best.

 

I fix it for you
Rather use those softer 11.0 or even the better 14.0 W/mK variants. Cheaper and better

 

yea those usually good enough. for my xps m2010 though i use those extreme ones for 17 w/mk cause those GPU are known with bad memory chip solder. gotta use the best and down the voltage as much as possible.

 

Usually good enough? Those 17 w/mk pads aint the best one. The 14 w/mk pads is softer not so stiff, aka they will suck better around the components ,+ the cooling is in fact a notch better. + cheaper Big win!! But FujiPoly don't advertice them much. I wonder why? Guess why.

 

I am not complaining about my systems temps, but questioning Clevo's decision to reduce GPU component cooling with every iteration of their GRID heatsink, while at the same time they have to deal with a bunch of burned cards being returned each week.

My reply was in regards to the reduced 'amount/coverage area' of heatpipes for the slave GPU on the TM1 heatsink compared to the Master GPU and the older (better?!) DM3 heatsink design.

Side note: I have in-fact Fujipoly of their maximum cooling capacity in every single spot of the DM3 (the original revision which still has all the heatpipes in place, not the single heatpipe KM1 model as seen in the picture below):

Spoiler

The above is the thermal pad setup, I am using:

17.0 W/mK > 0.5, 1 & 1.5mm
6.0 W/mK > 2, 2.5 & 3mm

Only the 4mm pads are still stock here.

And yes only use 17.0 W/mK version if you don't...brick...cough...have to disassemble the system frequently as otherwise they simply crumble away...

 

Or just like to take it apart the fit is far more important than the type of pad so long as it's not total garbage.

 

how long do they last the 17 ones

 

If you don't take it apart probably years.
If you disassemble it frequently they start to crack after only a couple of times.

 

If you disassemble, you should always check to see if your pads have degraded, and if they have, replace them.

 

If you intend to leave it overclocked for extended periods I would also try and customise the pads for your heatsink, set the card and make sure all chips leave an impression of contact.

 

another good reason to have separate heatsink from the CPU. doing work on CPU will result in wearing out GPU thermal pads. for me who doesnt OC GPU, 1 replacement is enough on the pads but i plan to use those fujipoly extreme pads on CPU VRMs though.

with all that been said, i think clevo should really do a re-design from ground up for upcoming 8 core CFL-S or icelake to accomdate larger heatsinks, more fans, more storage.

 

@Mr. Fox

Looks like Eurocom trade in program is up in their site.

 

No reason for a new layout really as it's fairly optimal. It would just need to be thicker.

 

thicker is about the only thing it could work, if it also mean to make CPU/GPU heatsink radiator thicker, which will mean thicker fans (in height), as well as adding a 4th fan.

 

One thing that really helped with the Fujipoly pads was to cut them to size for each of the modules. They rarely broke after i did that. And we save a lot of extra broken pad waste.

 

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well now i thought thats the normal thing to do, is to cut the pad into each component size we're placing over. if he didnt do that then it'll more than likely to break apart.

 

That certainly makes the most sense, but they come from the factory with the pads in long strips, not squares of pad for each memory chip.

 

yes, perhaps my understand is that everyone would be doing that as part of the process was wrong. back when i searched on ebay for the typical blue pads, they come in huge size so i assumed it needs to be divided into size/height properly onto each component on GPU PCB.

 

I mean from the Clevo factory, they have pads in a long strip covering multiple memory chips. On older GPUs with the memory chips just a few millimeters apart that makes good sense. On the new Clevo GPUs it makes not sense. The chips are spaced far apart and if you do not cut them you waste a ton of thermal pads. The aftermarket pads always need to be cut to the right dimensions.

Use a straight-edge like a metal ruler and a razor blade to cut the pads to the right size before applying them on the GPU.

 

Talk about the sun... Sorry I meant pads... See
Overclocking Returns To Origin PC EON, ND, NS Laptops With Intel Core i7-8700K

"Origin PC announced that its EON, ND, and NS gaming laptops would now be equipped with new Intel 8th generation (Coffee Lake) Core i7 processors. In addition, these new versions sport a returning feature in the form of CPU overclocking."

"Origin PC’s Skylake-equipped versions of these laptops were initially overclockable, a feature that Origin PC didn’t offer with the Kaby Lake iterations. However, the new versions feature Intel’s 8thgeneration K-series processors, and Origin PC is again offering professional overclocking services with these devices. The company explained that improved thermal pads and heatsinks are the key to the return of the overclocking service."


More of similar...
OriginPC Announces Gaming Laptops Powered by Core i7-8700K

"Benchmarks like a desktop, but you can carry it like a laptop," said Kevin Wasielewski ORIGIN PC CEO and co-founder. "With up to 6-cores of processing power and CPU/GPU overclocking, ORIGIN PC's latest gaming and professional laptops are truly remarkable."

 

The pads are not expensive per length and a return because one of a set of small pads moved is not worth the material of just laying down a small strip.

 

Has anyone gotten one of these bad puppies yet?

 

The first batch are in getting ready Need to grab those pics.

 

Great news! Cant wait to see em

 

I should be recieving my 775 in coming days Will post how it performs

 

I think my unit arrives by the end of the month. It just started building (itself! JK) today. I hope it gets done sooner though.

 

In the owners lounge in case you missed them.

 

Couldnt find of the p775tm. Saw some bad ass looking pics though of the p870tm

Also looking forward to hear how they perform and cool, cheers

 

I don't (currently) have anything to add to this thread but, wanted to thank you all for the lively conversation and education. I have a P870TM (8700K & GTX 1080) in my living room waiting for the RMA. It arrived with a faulty motherboard...shyt happens. I'll revisit this conversation once I receive a new one...be it from the same seller or HIDEvolution. I'd gladly provide any/all benchmarks. Mind you: The only game that I've purchased up to this point is Destiny 2. I'll also download some benchmarking software once I have the ability to. Thx again!

 

You bought Destiny 2? Isn't it free if you get a 1080 or 1080ti GPU? Where did you initially order your unit?

 

It was free.

 

Yeah the 870 series was in first

 

got pictures soon?

 

I'll have a look.

 

Here is a nice and juicy 3DMark 11 score for the 8700K / 1080 SLI P870 Beast. CPU and GPU are both running stock. @Papusan

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/12519970



Time Spy... https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/23649056

 

For those that prefer the more docile single GPU 8700K offering, here's this... also stock CPU and GPU.

And, as expected, Windows 7 rapes Windows 10 on CPU performance. Compare this physics score (W7) with the comparatively panty-waist physics score above (W10).

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/12520267

 

I'm expecting my PC in a few days...win10 installed. I'll be using my PC for Gaming,DJing, and school. Based on these scores, does it make sense to use Win 7 Pro or wait until Win 10 drivers are updated? Why such a disparity in performance???


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yeah seems it from EUROCOM's twitter!
aside from the very good scores I hope also for a well done cooling system

 

W10 will never be as good as W7. It never has been and never shall be. Drivers won't fix what has been broken since W8.X because they do not care. It is an inferior product, just as W8.X was inferior. The only reason for W10 to exist now (the bottom line) is for the Redmond Mafia control freaks to harvest more information to use for its own self-edifying purposes, and to enable them to act as informant/spy shills for the US Government. That, and because they are lazy bastards that want to just half-ass their way through life and let everyone run the same crappy smartphone/tablet OS on their PC.

If you are going to only be using it for playing games you will not notice the decrease in CPU performance. It hurts mostly in benchmarks because it castrates CPU performance in most things. W10 performs the same, sometimes slightly better, in graphics performance as W7. Again, not enough to notice unless you are measuring it carefully using benchmarks.

It is a badly-designed, poorly-optimized, ugly, inefficient, unintelligent, overly-bloated pile of crap. For these reasons, we should all be using W7 and punching the Digi-Nazis in the groin for peddling filthware.

 

While it is more DRM filled it does handle modern technologies better, has better caching when using SSDs and IMO looks better than 7, if they could take the best of both and THEN improve it I would be happier.

 

WHOA! Tell em how you REALLY feel Fox! I get it...and I believe that a LOT of these companies have hit the cruise control when it comes to doing right by the customer. C.R.E.A.M. (Cash Rules Everything Around Me) seems to be (and has) been the motto for some time. What's best for the consumer is secondary...just make it shine a little brighter and run a little faster and for most users, you'll be able to piss on their heads and tell them its rain...

I have a copy of Win 7 Pro around somewhere...Looks like I'll be digging it up. Thx!

 

We'd ALL be happier...but, I'm not holding my breath waiting for THAT miracle...that's for sure.

 

@GameServ not sure if our coffee lake clevos will work properly with windows 7.please let us know if u choose to install and how it works. I for one never wanted to "move up" to windows 10 and not just for the performance difference. 2 days with Win 10 im finding now is loaded with unnecssary crap feeling more like a mac moving away from what i loved about windows. Deffinly also not fond of all the new" privacy features" where microsoft basically spys on u collecting everything you do and a ocean full of things that help link you to things like adware junk. In short be happy to switch over fast. Hopefully will be possible as was for @Mr. Fox
Cheers

 

@Eurocom Support has it working great on new Clevos with 8700K and my desktop works beautifully with 8700K and Windows 7. Just don't install the crappy Windows Updates that lie to you and tell you Windows 7 doesn't provide full functionality. It's utter baloney. It is important to use Simplix Packs ONLY and disable Windows Update service to prevent the Redmond Nazis from infecting your OS with their official WHQL certified anti-Windows 7 digitally distributed venereal disease malware. Do that and you'll be golden. Might need to use a tweaked chipset driver from Fernando at Win-Raid forums if Clevo doesn't offer it. I have it posted somewhere. I will find it and re-post it. It will work for the Clevo the same as it does my ASUS Maximus X Hero mobo. Doesn't need to be a proprietary driver.

 

Found it for you and @GameServ... and anyone else that wants to run the only good version of Windows on their new 8700K Clevo. This chipset driver should work fine.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...ke-z370-and-z390.809268/page-35#post-10626913

 

Simplix Packs gives you all Windows Updates for W7 in one big download package, excluding those designed to force Windows 10 adoption. Those are eliminated. And, because you save it locally, future W7 installations can be updated offline, with no need for internet access.

This is all I use now, then disable Windows Update in Services.msc. Download: https://blog.simplix.info/update7/

More info: https://forums.mydigitallife.net/th...egrate-hotfixes-into-win7-distribution.45005/