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    New Np8662 with GTX 260M!

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by L4d_Gr00pie, Mar 11, 2009.

  1. sohail99

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    Thats awesome!!

    I hope they release a BIOS revision for 5793 too, to support 280M :)
     
    sohail99, Mar 12, 2009
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  2. Bluemercury

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    I think its just the M260 for the m860tu.
     
    Bluemercury, Mar 12, 2009
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  3. Kevin

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    Oh, I forgot to mention that the TDP numbers on that chart were estimates, and probably incorrect. No way the M860TU could handle a >75w chip. The 260M is probably the same wattage as the 9800M GT, or less.
     
    Kevin, Mar 12, 2009
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  4. Bluemercury

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    what's the best combo cpu/m260 possible for the m860tu?
     
    Bluemercury, Mar 12, 2009
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    We are all getting excited about this GPU, but how does the GTX 260m compare to the ATI M4850?
     
    Deathwinger, Mar 12, 2009
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    I believe both are 75W the 280M just runs hotter.
    I could be wrong thou >.>
     
    Crave8891, Mar 12, 2009
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    Rather, how does it compare to the 4860. And will Clevo decide to support ATi cards in the M860TU.
     
    meegulthwarp, Mar 12, 2009
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  8. theriko

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    Highly unlikely. The 5793 will not even run the 9800M GTX due to BIOS restrictions. If you want the newest gfx cards, you need the newest model machine (M570TU in that line)
     
    theriko, Mar 12, 2009
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  9. mortalcombat

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    Does anyone have benchmarks comparing GTX260 to 9800M GTS/GT/GTX?

    What is the performance increase from a 9800M GTS to GTX 260?
     
    mortalcombat, Mar 12, 2009
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  10. Eivind

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    There arent any benchmarks comparing them, but you can go to town on this page and compare the specs.
     
    Eivind, Mar 12, 2009
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  11. Beric1

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    I think your link is dysfunctional. ;)
     
    Beric1, Mar 12, 2009
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  12. terminus123

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    apparently the the GTX260m is the 9800m GTX with better clock speeds and smaller chip. So there will be a slight increase in performance in the GTX 260m compared to the 9800m GTX.

    GTX 280m>GTX 260m>9800m GTX>GT>GTS>GS
     
    terminus123, Mar 12, 2009
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  13. Kevin

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    It just hit me that this will be the first ever 15.4" with Core 2 Quad support. Plus it has the freaking GTX 260M coming in hot off the production line. Isn't that crazy?

    Chalk up another milestone record for Clevo.
     
    Kevin, Mar 13, 2009
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  14. Bluemercury

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    What the best cpu/M260 combo for the normal revision of the m860tu???
     
    Bluemercury, Mar 13, 2009
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    Should be X9100 + 260M.
     
    kaltmond, Mar 13, 2009
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  16. Kevin

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    Best right now to me is the T9800, but if I was buying one today, I'd say the T9550 would be the best choice from a price to performance standpoint.

    Intel is now hinting at having multiple 3+ Ghz CPUs coming out in Q2 of this year though.
     
    Kevin, Mar 13, 2009
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  17. kaltmond

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    yeah, already saw T9900 Retail, same 3.06G like X9100.
     
    kaltmond, Mar 13, 2009
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  18. Bluemercury

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    T9550??whats the specs of that?
     
    Bluemercury, Mar 13, 2009
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  19. Kevin

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    2.66Ghz 6MB L2 cache 35w
     
    Kevin, Mar 13, 2009
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    Well im using a P9500.....is it worth upgrading to any of the others?x9100/T9800...or that one?
     
    Bluemercury, Mar 13, 2009
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    as you already own a 6MB L2 cache and plus 25W on 2.53 Ghz then no it's not :)
     
    ciushk, Mar 13, 2009
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  22. xor01

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    so basically, we can fit 2x GTX 260m in Clevo D901C, right?
    MXM-IV card compatibility?
     
    xor01, Mar 13, 2009
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  23. Kevin

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    2x GTX 280M will also fit, but there's no guarantee that they'll work without a new BIOS.

    I upgraded from my P8600 because I needed more speed for the RTS I play, but if you don't play them, you should just wait.
     
    Kevin, Mar 13, 2009
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  24. fallingcat

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    wow ... does the D901c uses the Mxm IV type card slots ?

    thats interesting ...

    :)

    A Falling Cat named Spangky

    9 Lives only
     
    fallingcat, Mar 13, 2009
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  25. dtwn

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    Fitting it and being enabled in the bios are two different issues. :)
     
    dtwn, Mar 13, 2009
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  26. duane16

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    What's an RTS? And why does it need more CPU?

    Duane
     
    duane16, Mar 13, 2009
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  27. Bluemercury

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    RTS= real time strategy.
     
    Bluemercury, Mar 13, 2009
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  28. Oiad

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    ...and in addition to that, Real-time Strategy games tend to be more CPU than GPU intensive, compared to other games.
     
    Oiad, Mar 13, 2009
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  29. xor01

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    Yap, that's the only problem left.
    The thing is, Clevo doesn't make its own GPU card. So making a BIOS update to make older laptop able to use newer GPU could hurt the sales of their newest laptop.

    I wondering though, the above case can be applied to desktop market too. But why desktop motherboard maker still update their BIOS to support new CPU/GPU even though it can also hurt the sales of their new motherboard.
     
    xor01, Mar 13, 2009
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  30. L4d_Gr00pie

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    Talking about RTS, will the graphic card be the bottleneck in the end or will the processor be in this NP8662? (let's say it has a T9550 or Q9000)
    By guess and by experience of course since it's still on pre-order xD
     
    L4d_Gr00pie, Mar 13, 2009
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  31. dtwn

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    Very glad you are aware of that.

    And to be honest, it will depend on the game. ;)

    WIC is somewhat CPU limited on my Clevo. I tried running at 1920 x 1080 and 1440 x 900 and got about the same min/max/avg FPS.

    A quad core might arguably outperform a higher clocked dual core in an optimized RTS like Supreme Commander , but I don't know if the .66 Ghz may prove insurmountable for the 2.0 Ghz quad.
     
    dtwn, Mar 13, 2009
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  32. terminus123

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    I suggest the T9550, since more games out there support dual core than quad core. Plus it's cheaper :)
     
    terminus123, Mar 13, 2009
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  33. L4d_Gr00pie

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    Well the question wasn't whether I am getting the T9550 or Q9000, but it is something I am questioning myself about :D. Basically I wanna know if the Q9000 will be the bottleneck in some games so that I should get the duo 2.66 ghz instead.
     
    L4d_Gr00pie, Mar 13, 2009
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  34. Beric1

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    And the answer is yes. Some new games can use quad-core, while most older games and some new games cannot. In those games that can support quad-core, you will have a big advantage. But in those games than only support dual-core, you will essentially have a dual-core 2Ghz processor, which is a distinct disadvantage is most games, even those than mainly emphasize the graphics card.
     
    Beric1, Mar 13, 2009
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  35. karmadhi

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    is it worth the upgrade from the 9800 gts???
     
    karmadhi, Mar 14, 2009
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  36. Oiad

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    Depends on the price you are willing to pay. A 9800M GTS is still a highly decent card but you will notice a performance boost from the 260M. All I can say is that I'll be buying the upgrade when it's available.
     
    Oiad, Mar 14, 2009
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  37. CuriousN

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    Will this laptop support 8 Gb RAM?
    What about battery life?
     
    CuriousN, Mar 14, 2009
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  38. karmadhi

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    yes it will support 8 GB RAM...i have seen some vendors already offering that up to 8 GB.BAttery life hmmm
     
    karmadhi, Mar 15, 2009
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  39. CuriousN

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    which vendors?
     
    CuriousN, Mar 15, 2009
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    karmadhi, Mar 15, 2009
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    its in german :(
    too bad.
     
    karmadhi, Mar 15, 2009
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    LAPTOPNUT
    There is currently NO option for overclocking the CPU on the M860TU. Not throught the BIOS nor through 3rd party software.
     
    scourge18a, Mar 15, 2009
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  43. mortalcombat

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    scourge how's your x9100 performance wise? and what is the max temp you're getting with it?
     
    mortalcombat, Mar 16, 2009
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    Guys, as someone here mentioned above, how is GTX 260M compared to HD4850? Just theoretically, HD4850 in GT725 was running games much better than 9800M GTX right? What percentage advantage will have HD4850 over GTX 260M? I wonder what is TDP of that Ati (will it fit in 15inch?)

    That interesting dont you think? :)
     
    AndrewKW, Mar 16, 2009
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  45. xor01

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    What is TDP?
    I've read this many times here, but didn't know what it stands for...
     
    xor01, Mar 16, 2009
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    Btw, last week I ordered a Sager NP8660 (on Friday) with P9600 2.66GHZ , 4GB Dual Channel memory, 320GB HDD 7200rpm and NVidia Geforce 9800GTS 512MB. While making a cheque payment, the company representative called me and asked whether I want to upgrade the 9800GTS to GTX 260M1GB? I said: YES since it's free upgrade from their Sager HQ. So, the ETA was delayed until the end of this month. Can't wait for that.
     
    jsky1, Mar 17, 2009
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  48. IKAS V

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    Congratulations!
    you have to give us a review when you get it in.
     
    IKAS V, Mar 17, 2009
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  49. mortalcombat

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    Where did you order it from??
    It's a good company that didnt rip you off
     
    mortalcombat, Mar 17, 2009
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  50. dtwn

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    I can give a shot as to why they did that. As I recall, the 8660 is out of stock till the end of the month, which is when the 8662s are released , giving him the upgrade doesn't cost the reseller anything. In fact, they probably don't have any 8660s to give him, as they have to order it from Sager and wait for delivery. Since Sager doesn't have any 8660s, he gets a "free" upgrade to the GT260M.

    PS: If it was cubehubs, just take a note that Sager does not recognize them as an official reseller.
     
    dtwn, Mar 17, 2009
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