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    New pictures of the Sager NP9280 (Clevo D901F) I got from PowerNotebooks.com

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by danny2001, Apr 30, 2009.

  1. BlueForceDisc

    BlueForceDisc Notebook Guru

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    the problem is that I like Sager and I want to give them my $$ and support them but they wont let me :( :( I might just go to desktop world for some time, where I can build a i7 with SLI. Something that apparently is impossible as the X58 doesnt support SLI.
     
  2. pbcustom98

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    I already invited him to. i even asked for his designs. he just posted what sager had done and moaned some more.
     
  3. BlueForceDisc

    BlueForceDisc Notebook Guru

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    ok fine, brb. I m gunno design my own lappy. lol
     
  4. Neil@Kobalt

    Neil@Kobalt Company Representative

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    That really should be the end of it?
     
  5. ichime

    ichime Notebook Elder

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    The reason why they used the X58 chipset is because of the processor. It has nothing to do with it supporting SLi or not.
     
  6. Donald@Paladin44

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    Let's get back to enjoying the pictures and not let this guy hijack this thread with his ranting...
     
  7. pbcustom98

    pbcustom98 Goldmember

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    I already invited him to. i even asked for his designs. he just posted what sager had done and moaned some more.
     
  8. BlueForceDisc

    BlueForceDisc Notebook Guru

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    relax guys, we re just chattin here. btw I m almost done with my design
     
  9. pbcustom98

    pbcustom98 Goldmember

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    it is just a heated discussion, no ranting and raving lunatics here.
     
  10. BlueForceDisc

    BlueForceDisc Notebook Guru

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    heres my new Sager.
    [​IMG]

    ok maybe the Hds look like they re 1.8' but lets say it has 3 or 4, 2.5'
     
  11. Shyster1

    Shyster1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Only dual-SLi? What about triple-SLi, or more? :)
     
  12. DefconZero

    DefconZero Notebook Consultant

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    BMD, just stop trying, you're not impressing anyone.
     
  13. BlueForceDisc

    BlueForceDisc Notebook Guru

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    hell ya, man. get a desktop power supply 1200W with it and there we go. i would buy that!! but most of users here will mock that idea, unfortunately. Show up with that 21' beast at Starbucks next to a chick with MBA :D :D

    its not about impressing anyone. its about whats right!! was it possible to design i7 with SLI!?. Yes I just proved it using sophisticated rendering software to design it.
     
  14. xor01

    xor01 Notebook Deity

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    LOL :D
    I know service manuals aren't supposed to go public.
    I just like to learn the internal of laptops. Like what part is used, the blueprints, etc. It's really interesting although I don't know shiit about computer electrical design :D


    Well, Sager already explains that although X58 chipset support SLI and Crossfire, it doesn't support Mobile GPU SLI. So I think if you really want to have Core i7 + SLI, you have to beg Intel to update their X58 chipset to support Mobile GPU SLI. If you succeeded, then beg to Clevo to design a Core i7 + SLI laptop with 20" chassis (since 17" chassis won't have enough space for another GPU).
     
  15. Soloman

    Soloman Notebook Consultant

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    Boy Genius, the left side of your "machine" is going to be extremely hot and will damage most of the mobo the minute you turn it on.
     
  16. BlueForceDisc

    BlueForceDisc Notebook Guru

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    ummm, no, current 9262 is designed the same way and ..... wait for it .... it never has any problems :D
     
  17. xor01

    xor01 Notebook Deity

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    @BlueForceDics
    That's a good laptop design you have. But there's few problems:
    1. The battery space is too small.
    2. You just made internal hardware layout. Where's the blueprint for the mobo? Your layout is meaningless without mobo architecture that can follow your hardware layout.
    3. Where's the thermal budget spesification?
    4. Where's the airflow design?
     
  18. Tenchi

    Tenchi Notebook Geek

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    let's not forget the thickness side of the laptop and the vents to go with it to pull the cool air in and hot air out from all the HDDs.
     
  19. BlueForceDisc

    BlueForceDisc Notebook Guru

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    pasoleatis Notebook Deity

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    Nicve pictures by the way. :)
     
  21. mmm3

    mmm3 Notebook Guru

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    Nah, not impressed. I was hoping on a 17" SLI capable so I gould get it now and add a GPU later + upgrade CPU and RAM.

    18" is too large for my use, I guess I'll have to get something else....
     
  22. BlueForceDisc

    BlueForceDisc Notebook Guru

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    haha, another one!! great. I m selling my 9262 and putting together a nice new desktop :) anyone wants to buy my 9262?
     
  23. rsgeiger

    rsgeiger Notebook Evangelist

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    PM me how much or your ebay link :)
     
  24. BlueForceDisc

    BlueForceDisc Notebook Guru

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    I ll post it on ebay soon. I m still not decided on my final price.
     
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    Sorry to bring this back up, but there was one little nit I didn't address in my earlier reply, and that is that DDR3 memory is 204-pin. There are 3 slots, so you will be able to get up to 12GB DDR3/1066 system memory in the Sager NP9280.
     
  26. Justin@XoticPC

    Justin@XoticPC Company Representative

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    Here are a few screenshots: (take a look at the Ram :p )

    1st 3D Mark is at 1920x1200 and final one is at default. :D
     

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    emike09 Overclocking Champion

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    Forgive me if has been covered, but do we have a release date?
     
  28. xor01

    xor01 Notebook Deity

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    Since it seems that Sager resellers currently testing the laptop, I believe the release date will be at the end of May.

    @resellers
    Is my guess correct, guys?
     
  29. Justin@XoticPC

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    xor01 is right on. ETA is planned for the end of May :) Launching for pre-order tonight at 5PM PST/7PM CST
     
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    The count down for the release to take pre-orders is now under 2 hours.
     
  31. Johnksss

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    ummm, no.
    1: ( d901f)it was built for the desktop replacement high end WORKSTATION!
    2 the m980nu was built for the desktop replacement GAMING MACHINE in mind. with 2 highend gpu's and a 3rd one for running on battery power.

    edit:
    pre order? so what is the pre order price?

    edit
    looks like we have the first single gpu 15k 3dmark laptop up to bat
     
  32. anothergeek

    anothergeek Equivocally Nerdy

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    12GB DDR3 RAM, extreme i960, and 3 160GB Intel SSD in Raid 0... just imagine :p
     
  33. Justin@XoticPC

    Justin@XoticPC Company Representative

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    Here is a Crysis Bench.
     

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  34. BlueForceDisc

    BlueForceDisc Notebook Guru

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    not a bad score, but I was expecting more somehow. Still for a single laptop GPU, this is not bad.
     
  35. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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    Thats all @ DX10.

    It will perform better if the tests were done with DX9 setting.

    Thanks for the posts Justin :)
     
  36. Johnksss

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    it will do more, but justin is just running as is.
     
  37. Shyster1

    Shyster1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Just to be fair to everyone (wow, I love the opportunity to pretend to be even-handed, those're so few and far between :D), it's a good thing that someone is willing to imagine what ought to come next, so BlueForceDics deserves some credit for starting that process; however, as Soloman and xor01 have pointed out, ironing out the details requires a lot of technical knowledge, e.g., knowing how to use the extremely complicated software that is used to do thermal budget analyses of various component configurations.
     
  38. Johnksss

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    and you actually answered that one shyster? ...lol
    as soon as i seen 7 hard drives...that's was a wrap!...lol
    technically..the d901c (make that) install internally... 6 or 7 hard drives now. technically speaking.
    now how many of them will actually run?...no one knows...lol
     
  39. BlueForceDisc

    BlueForceDisc Notebook Guru

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    Shyster digs the goodies. Ok maybe I got a bit excited with da drives but u get the general idea.
     
  40. ichime

    ichime Notebook Elder

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    7 hard drives is feasable on a notebook platform if all 7 hard drive caddies are 1.8" rather than 2.5. I think a more practical design would be a 2 + 4 design (two 2.5 inch bays and four 1.8 inch bays with two rows of two 1.8 inch hard drives stacked on eachother like the M1730). And since most 1.8 inch hard drives are SSDs, there shouldn't be any performance issues.

    Nonetheless, yeah, that (BlueForceDics) design is lulzable. But apparently Asus and Intel wouldn't mind taking a look at it...
     
  41. Johnksss

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    yeah, 1.8's... but them 2.5's wasn't happening.
     
  42. K-TRON

    K-TRON Hi, I'm Jimmy Diesel ^_^

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    I see them, looks like low quality SamLam tech fans like every Clevo comes with.

    Those heatsinks are rather small for the power its supposed to have.
    I guess its not going to make a difference since Clevo's run a good 3 minutes before it breaks down and needs repair.

    K-TRON
     
  43. BlueForceDisc

    BlueForceDisc Notebook Guru

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    anyone wants to buy a Sager 9262?
     
  44. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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    make a post in the NBR Marketplace... and advertise it on your sig.

    refrain from selling it on posts... against forum rules.
     
  45. GypsyDRB

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    so with the move to MXM 3.0, the new GPU's going to 40nm, what do people think about the following theory:

    Clevo chose to use the space for the 3rd memory module, additonal HDD, etc instead of carving a space for a 2nd GPU because nvidia will be able to "GTX 295"-itize the gpu's going forward on 40nm architecture. What I mean is, put 2 gpu's on 1 die (or whatever).

    Thermal budget be able to handle that?
     
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    not enough space in this current design...(personal opinion)
     
  47. Shyster1

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    Just because the subject is aching for a little reality, first, here's a decent (and recent) article on thermal analysis in the design of computers, Without Thermal Analysis, You Might Get Burned, which describes in layman's terms the issues facing a designer, and second, the website for a piece of commercial software that is used to perform thermal analysis on electronic components, FloTHERM from Flotherm, Inc., now a part of Mentor Graphics. The FloTHERM datasheet gives an even better sense of how complex, and complicated, doing thermal analysis for a computer design is.

    Finally, for those who want to get a more in-depth view on thermal analysis and the design of computer/electronic cooling solutions, Flotherm has a nice little library of whitepapers on the topic.

    Bon appetit!
     
  48. xor01

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    Finally, you shows up, mate :D
    I mean, you're one of the those who really curious with D901F internal layout :p

    Btw, you showing up and suddenly said "no" with an explanation. May I know which post you actually responded to? :)
     
  49. xor01

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    Yep, I respect all ideas, impossible is nothing :D

    BUT... he made that design to answer a dare from another NBR Member and that member dare him to design his own Clevo because of his statement that designing a laptop with Core i7 + SLI is easy so D901F should have been made with Core i7 + SLI. ;)

    I just want to point out that designing the hardware layout IS easy...
    But to make that design comes to life, now that IS hard. :D
     
  50. Johnksss

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    lol
    it's for anyone trying to call the d901f a specific gaming machine, when it's more of a workstation. they know who they are... :)

    but that's pretty much how i said the design would come out a while back. that they would drop the gpu and put the memory there..just didn't know they we're going to put the 3rd chip under the keyboard. and in reality..i was seriously hoping i was wrong....
     
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