New pictures of the Sager NP9280 (Clevo D901F) I got from PowerNotebooks.com

I'm pleasantly surprised that the D901F has come out at "just" $2242. Once the new G200 based mobile Quadros come out, it'll be one beast of a workstation machine.

And there's that 950MHz mem clock too...

 

who has it up with pricing??
other than powernotebooks

 

Here's the Xotic page.

Eurocom has it, but theirs starts over $3k US.

 

PowerNoteBooks & XoticPC! same base price. XoticPC a little cheaper on the HDD.

 

well that's damn nice!! so all those people talking 3,000 gran and up are looking pretty stupid right about now. and yes im gonna point it out!!!!!!!

edit:
you have to bare with Eurocom ...they are always slow on setting the right price...

 

sagernotebook.com was the only site i was looking at and it seems about $100 more than Xotic with my setup: 6GB Ram,320 7200, BlueRay Reader. I just found out about Sager brand today! I'm looking for a openGL card laptop since i'm a Mechanical Engineer major running Pro Engineer and similar stuff so i looked up specs on this nVidia GeForce GTX 280M card and i found somewhere that it stated in specs it supports openGL 2.1 so this sounds good for me.
as Newb to site, this brand, and this type of computer! i have a few questions.
1: should i wait for a new Quadro like Kevin_Jack2.0 just said? or wait for something else just wait for any other reason like problems with it being a new laptop?(i want to buy by September for next semester)
2: What site should i buy it from?
3: Will it probably be available with XP downgrade cuz that's not an option yet but on others it is and i think i need that (or at least 32bit OS) to run ProE? Edit: just checked proE site and proE 5.0 will run on 64bit!!! wonder if my school will upgrade :?
4: why cant they add the PIMP optional Wacom digitizer built in like lenovo W700!?
5: only important question: Is this the best laptop for the money (and is it good brand) with opengl support or should i look at any other recomendations?

 

you should be able to get a quadro fx 3700m pretty soon. since it is a high end workstation.

 

i can already get a fx 3700m on lenovo W700 (and the trick digitizer too) but that is much more money and not as new tech as this np9280 and that was available on the older sager that was just discontinued so i think this card is newer and i'm guessing a step up. especially since this processor is more advanced with this no FSB technology. plus if this is openGL then who cares if it says quadro or whatever. i only wanted quadro cuz it was the one with opengl, unless theres something im missing here.

 

I'm not surprised. I already predicted the price will not be far away from D901C price since the GTX 280M is cheaper and all we have to do is pay the "tax" for the new technology.

 

Clevo - redefining the word "laptop"

 

Please take into account that the configuration which costs 2200 $ is the starting configuration and everything is 'minimized'.

PL

 

Thanks for reminding me, but I did notice that.

I once made a minimal configuration of Clevo D901C at Xotic PC and got $2174 starting price.
At RJ Tech, Clevo D901C barebone is priced at $1959 and with minimal spec, have the same price as Xotic, only differs few dollars.

 

Here are the benchmark scores of sager np9280(core i7-965, GTX280M) from xotic pc:



Our rival appears!
It only equips with single GTX280M. Now I am very curious about the performance of Sager NP9850 with GTX280M SLI

 

yea...I was a little disgusted that the d900f comes close to the 901c in 3dmark06, however, it's really just a "buffer" score. All that extra processing power and ram aren't really effective in gaming with a single 280m as a bottleneck. Great for a workstation though.

 

Any word on the overclockability of the i7 Quad Extreme 965? If you can't OC, it's best to stick with the i7 940.

 

you can use setfsb in the future if you get the PLL# . It shall have great overclockability

 

What's the TDP of the i7 Quad Extreme 965? Is it the same as the 940? In this case the OC should be allowed.

PL

 

True.

I need to specify that I want to know if BIOS overclocking is unlocked.

 

Kinda ironic though...
M980NU Sample already reviewed months ago with complete internal and external photo gallery while D901F still in the dark. But in the end, the resellers got their hand on D901F first instead of M980NU.

 

no SLI, no fun

 

I hope in the future when desktop Core i7's move to a 95W TDP Clevo will move back to the old D901C style for their D900xF revision, and bring SLI back to the 17" chassis.

 

That's doubtful as well seeing as it would infringe on M980NU sales.

 

Clevo D901F barebone at RJ Tech priced at $1759.
$200 cheaper than D901C barebone that was priced at $1959.

PS: RJ Tech no longer sale D901C with 9800M GTX, only with Quadro, so the price of D901C barebone is higher than $1959.

 

SLI is overrated.

 

Agreed (10 char)

 

Please tell me why you both think that SLI is overrated

 

beacuse nivida make artifical gpu bottlenecks to increase sales.. via crytek

 

I Concur!
.......

 

Is this a fact or speculation or rumor or opinion?

 

Just realized something... No more internal MiniPCI TV Tuner in D901F....

 

It can be installed manually anyways since it has from what I see in the OP picture, four mini-pci e slots with three taken up. I think one of the occupied ones might be the TV tuner or Bluetooth.

 

The internal TV Tuner in D901C is MiniPCI bro, not MiniPCIe. The slot is wider. In D901F, the slot is gone, replaced with another MiniPCIe slot.

If you look at the pic, the MiniPCIe card on the left is the WiFi card. Right next to it is Intel Turbo memory (previously MiniPCI slot for internal TV Tuner). The bluetooth module is a small device (not MiniPCIe) and can be seen on the south side of the WiFi card.

PS: I studied Clevo D901C service manual.

 

You do realize they make mini-PCI e TV tuners now right?

 

Thank you to all non Eurocom resellers who are giving us a reasonable price on this sick machine.

Now just out of curiosity, when should we expect the M98 to show up on these other resellers websites? In particular, Xotic?

BTW if the desktop GTX 280s chips compare relatively closely to the mobile chips, then according to tomshardware here :

http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/...8/Sum-of-FPS-Benchmarks-1920x1200-AA,801.html

... SLI only gives you about a %10 increase in performance.

 

LOL
Yes I do. But as far as I know, they are hard to find (I once tried to find one for my Lenovo). And the reason I posted about the "missing TV Tuner" is because:

RJ Tech offers Internal TV Tuner for D901C, but when I tried to customize D901F, only External TV Tuner available. And when I re-checked the pic here, I found out that the MiniPCI slot is gone. So I kinda "shocked".

Well, not shocked per se, just a little bit surprised because I didn't notice it earlier

 

You're right about the mini PCI e TV tuners being hard to find. But I recently got mine from ebay (Avermedia A312) and installed it on my system (W840Di) and it works great (though the digital TV signal in NY is terrible).

 

I would not dismiss it, just because it will not support SLI, seeing as we can upgrade the card.

 

gonna have to disagree...
your gonna have to let the past go and move into the future. and 1 high end video card (gtx280m) is not better than 2 matching high end video cards (example gtx280m) in an over all test of per say 100 different games.
im gonna have to say sli/crossfire will win in better than 95 percent of those test.(using the same video card vs the same dual video card setup)
and people running around thinking 15 frames is great game play is crazy when you can double that with two cards...sorry...gonna have to say two cards are better than one 95 percent of the time.( gaming only!)(personal opinion)

that's like saying one kidney is better than two even though you can live off of one.

 

No means maybe later in the language of Clevo.

 

Precisely; I couldn't agree with you more. That's partly why I linked to the FloTHERM stuff. It's a little architecture - any fool with a pencil and a pad of paper can draw a floorplan - and those who are geniuses can discover new forms with just those tools - however, turning that floorplan into a 3-D house requires a lot of engineering knowledge that doesn't come free with either pencils or pads of paper.

Even so, some of the worst buildings are built by well-trained civil engineers who have no sense of architecture as a theory of design.

 

Purely an opinion but I think that the performance gain compared to cost and huge dimension is not worth it. Although I never tried any sli config but I red somewhere that performance gain were from 0 to 50% depending on game, is it true ??

 

more like 0 to 100 percent... depending on game.
90 percent of the time, it's better than 50 percent.

 

Yeah, high five, mate

Anyway, designing a laptop is not the same as designing a Lego Laptop

Remember your post about Master Zen with the Mac and PC thing?
I don't get the joke because I never read the book. But interestingly, I posted a while back about "Alienware is Apple in the Windows PC world while Apple is Apple in the computer world", seeing how Alienware and Apple kinda similar in term of pricing upgrades. LOL

Sorry for the out of topic
And... back in topic