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    New way to overclock Clevo M860TU...

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by Milo.V, Jul 22, 2009.

  1. h0w1er

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    You did it with quad? lol
     
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    Yeah, I thought it wouldn't work too well after seeing Kaltmond's post, so I installed a convenient switch for it in the 3G slot.
     
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    No. To get different fsb's you need to use different pins on the clock generator.
     
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    Thanks, I didn't think it would be that simple.
     
  5. Milo.V

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    firepower
    М570TU has the same cg, so u can use the same pin, 1.05v and 2KOhm.
     
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    Got my M86 back, finally installed Q92 (333x9) again, but still not stable. Tried 4 Q9200, 3 VIDs are 1.1625V and 1 is 1.15V. I use the lower one and have to pinmod to overvolt to 1.2V, so at least the system is now stable than before, but the core temp......
     
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    what temps do you get ?
     
  8. kaltmond

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    wprime 1024M like 90°C, Prime 95 errors. Total stable is impossible.....
     
  9. Milo.V

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    kaltmond
    u can try to vmod your cpu.
     
  10. kaltmond

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    Already vmod overvolted. @default vcore totally unstable.
     
  11. MikjoA

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    How did you do a vmod ? with a software ?
     
  12. Milo.V

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    u did a hw-mod with cpu pins?
    how much volts u have now & how much temps raised?
     
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    i remember you saying this overclock is not fully stable due to the ram. so would flashing the ram to a lower frequency help to make it stable?
     
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    My god I never knew sager brand is a b i t c h to overclock....sounds complicated to just overclock your gpu and cpu....sheesh.
     
  16. mmoerbe

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    I managed to do it also, but system my is not stable, I used and done everything with same material as Milo.V (the 2K ohm resistor).

    My problem is, without the ac power cable connect I can boot into win7 x64, but if I try to boot the system with it plugged it hangs just before it shows the desktop. So I need to wait so he restarts to desktop to plug the cable and then I use RM CPU Clock Utility to undervolting it to 9x333Mhz=2990Mhz and its perfectly stable that way (ran 3dmark and OTRHOS for about an hour)

    Can you guys help understand why it happens with tha ac power cable connected?

    My system is a clevo m860tu T9550 with 4Gb Kingston 533 installed (CAS7)
     
  18. mmoerbe

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    On rm clock do you have your power plan selected for both plugged in and on battery? I would also select the plan you use for start up also. And, check your windows power options.
     
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    one question...would hot glue work for this? it's pretty damn tough and in the end...it's removable....just curious...
     
  20. mmoerbe

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    That's what I used and was suggested. You still have to solder though. Hot glue just ensures it doesn't come loose.
     
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    this is for the guy or girl who is scared they may drop to much solder on the chip or board. soldering a capacitor to a wire is far cheaper if it breaks. (for the soldering part) is that what you meant?
     
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    Im almost certain the problem is related with display brightness and "os power plan" on RM. I managed to set it right, but after I changed 10x333mhz the notebook rebooted and I lost the configuration I done but I cant remember what I've done.

    I realized he stopped giving me the BSOD when I reboot the notebook and brigthness went quite low even on the bios boot screen and win7 logo boot, but after I got to see the desktop he was restoring the brigtness to a regular level and he didnt reboot anymore this with the ac power cable connected. If only knew what I've done before....

    I think I choosed at RM on Performace on demand profile "use OS power plan" Balanced. Can u help.
     
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    I think it´s hard to get a higher clock and at the same time only use a lower Vcore. @ default Vcore 333x10 unstable?
     
  24. sgaramis

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    Yes, default vcore 333x10 unstable. I just wanna get the 333x9 when rebooting to windows with ac cable power connect, like I managed 3 hours ago. If I only knew how do the notebook automatically lower the brightness when I choose to reboot...
     
  25. kaltmond

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    Hard mod Overvolt may resolve your problem, even boot @3330. But heat will increase for sure.
     
  26. sgaramis

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    But why can I reboot with 9x333 performance on demand without ac power connected and with it only after I wait till I can see desktop, otherwise I get the blue screen ?

    I have my 260m modded to run 640x900x1600 @ 1.05v , has this something to do with the blue screen's should I undervolted to default and maintain the clock speeds?
     
  27. mmoerbe

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    the spots are so small i think it would be impossible to attempt to hot glue it there. I ended up learning how to solder. I tipped the wires with enough solder so I wouldn't have to apply heat to the board.
     
  28. H-Emmanuel

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    Kaltmond, I think that I saw in one of your pics the multiplier set at 11x, how did you do this? Did you unlock multipliers with a software or something or it's one of your others crazy mods lol! ?
     
  29. mmoerbe

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    I think think his q9200 and your q9300 have unlocked multipliers. But, i thought the m860tu would'nt let you change them. I always think kaltmond knows secrets but wont share :p

    Can you oc more with autotool after the hw oc?I'm just so bored because theres nothing left to do with my laptop.

    Ifinally gave in ordered me desktop parts for new build. It's just too expensive to upgrade the hw on this laptop.

    Unrelated question, can the aluminum top and aluminum around keyboard be removed? say for painting purposes.
     
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    anything can be removed, see the service manual in my sig for details.
     
  31. mmoerbe

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    Ya, just not very detailed on metal panels. Don't want to take whole lcd apart just for the top metal piece :p. Thanks though.
     
  32. H-Emmanuel

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    I'd like to know, for people who actually tried the mod and have their FSB now running at 1333MHz and claim that their system is relatively stable, what RAM are you using, how many sticks, custom SPDs etc?
    I've performed the mod a month ago, tried for two weeks flashing stable RAM timings but I can't increase them enough otherwise the laptop doesn't boot. I can see that some users at least can run a loop of 3DMark06, it's not even the case for me, I get a BSOD or freeze after 20 seconds AT BEST.
     
  33. mmoerbe

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    My system is completely stable (2months) and i've had no problems.24 hours prime stable and i also have it crunching 24/7. I'm not running a quad however. But if you think its your ram stability i'm using Crucial 4GB (2 x 2GB) 204-Pin DDR3 1066 (PC3 8500) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148191.
    I flashed one of the sticks to 7-7-7-27 which solved my stability issues. You may not have enough voltage on your quad still.
     
  34. mmoerbe

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    Side note. I used thaiphoon burner in xp32 to flash. I had trouble with it at first. Ultimately, I used the automatic dd3 settings and selected ddr 800E. Adjusting the settings manually didn't work for me. And i only flashed 1 stick.
     
  35. H-Emmanuel

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    Very good info, it's probably a voltage issue... Now I have to find a way to overvolt my CPU a bit! However have you tried running Memtest? Memtest will ultimately determine if your RAM is stable or not, if you didn't mind running 5 loops for me, I would GREATLY appreciate it!

    Thanks!

    PS: WOW I'm surprised, memory prices are sky rocketing, I paid like $75 for that kit many months ago!
     
  36. mmoerbe

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    Ya I paid 60 for mine. I ran memtest right afterwards but I can run loops of it if u need me to.
    You can't overvolt with rmclock? guess you'll have to do pin mod
     
  37. H-Emmanuel

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    Hey,
    I would actually appreciate it a lot if you did run Memtest overnight for me. Since we have the same RAM purchased at around the same time, they probably are identical and if yours run stable at 1333MHz at 7-7-7-20-27, there's no reason mine shouldn't.
    The thing is, Memtest picks up literally any error caused by unstable memory etc. I bet you didn't have any errors when you ran Memtest without the hardware overclock; but now that they're running at 1333MHz, it's always a possibility that they are no longer 100% stable.
     
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    I always think the BIOS support for Dualcore and Quadcore is different. But i only have experience on M980NU. OC a T9300 is much easier than Q9200. With T9300 FSB 350 very easy, but Q9200 even FSB 300 is hard to get.

    You can try install a dualcore to see if it's still unstable.
     
  39. H-Emmanuel

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    We were talking about memory stability, I'll try the voltmod ASAP and tell you if that fixes my stability issues!
     
  40. mmoerbe

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    Im not gonna run it all night. I leave my laptop crunching all night. But ill run it for a couple hours.

    Not sure what settings you had when you did bench marks but if your t9900 is scoring almost as well as your qx9300 then its probably not getting enough power.
     
  41. H-Emmanuel

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    Alright sure I'll be pleased even with a few hours! :)

    Yeah regarding the T9900 and QX9300 3DMark06 scores, I thought of this as well but there are 2 possibilities:
    -3DMark06 is not optimized for Quad-Cores and relies more on raw operating frequency (GHz), in other words 3.06GHz vs 2.53GHz
    -Lack of power

    The lack of power is definitely an issue though; some USB devices stop being recognized sometimes and in some games such as Crysis, there is more lag than usual and a year ago I had pinpointed the problem to power consumption when running the QX9300. I now ordered a Li Shin 20V 8A 160W with 5.5mm/2.5mm plug power supply to replace the stock 20V 6A 120W one; an extra 40W should solve all my problems!
     
  42. mmoerbe

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    Hey, sorry it took me so long. Ive been busy with classes and forgot all about running the tests. But i ran the tests for 5 loops with no errors. So if you need any more details on how what settings i changed in taiphoon burner when i flashed my ram just send me a pm.
     
  43. H-Emmanuel

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    Thank you very much man, no problem. I'll be volt modding very soon my CPU and it will probably get rid of instability issues.
     
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    Thinking of giving this a go, any tips?
     
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    Memtest is OK-ish at finding the area of dead RAM when it is properly dead. It is completely useless for testing OC stability. I have seen systems run memtest for days without any errors, and fail within 30 seconds on OCCT large data set test. I have yet to find anything that bests OCCT at detecting OC instabilities.
     
  46. mmoerbe

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    lol, you will never know if your system is stable until the day it crashes. You can run as many stability tests as you want, but you ultimatly have to decide what you consider stable. Myself 12+ hours of prime 95. But sometimes i use occt, or intel burn test, etc. Depends on my mood.
     
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    i am planning to do this but i just want to confirm that is 2k Ohm resistor the only value allowed or is any other value allowed. Is there a range of value i can choose from just in case i can't find the exact value
     
  48. H-Emmanuel

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    If you have an Extreme processor, this mod is now obsolete because you can use Throttlestop to increase your multiplier and even voltage. I wouldn't risk it with any other resistor but the one recommended, easy to find on eBay and Radioshack.
     
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    thanks for the info but i have P8400 so Throttlestop won't work. Also i need some help. I managed to do the mod and it worked but my ram seem to be unstable. This is because after the mod i ran furmark for about 1 hour and i had no problem. Then i ran prime95. It has no problems when i run the test to throttle the cpu but when i ran the test to throttle both the cpu and ram the test would stop after a couple of minutes. When i ran memtest i found that it would report errors within 1 minute. This is only for one of the ram i have. When i use only 2gb i ran prime95 for about 6 hour no problem but with the other 2gb it crashes. what should i do with the other ram. downclock it???
     
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