Official 8850 Pre-Order thread!

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how about we share the order ( ~ $7,000!!) 50 50 and i'll make sure to provide you a detailed review of both machines and the final verdict...oh AND your %50 back

lol thanks

 

Does the GTX480m suck that bad that no one besides notebook check wants to review it?

 

More like too expensive to send out to too many reviewers probably.

 

Based on the scores released so far i will say it is the opposite of suck ...

I believe hothardware did a review of the card in the D900F(NP9285) ...

This is Sager/Clevo we are talking about here so its not like the larger companys where you will see reviews from all the major websites... They dont ship out there machines to everyone and its usually the
resellers who send the machines out for reviews to the sites anyhow and not the manufacture like Dell for instance...

I am sure Anandtech will end up with a machine at some point and a few other noteworthy sites...

 

Stock? Try Furmark if you can.


Also is there anything "special" in the bios?

 

Yeah, it would be nice to see some Furmark temps as well the gaming ones.

 

Witcher just ordered a NP9285 with a 480m from Gentech , he said he might throw in his 980x for some testing also .... Good stuff...

 

Lets go resellers, where are the benchmarks?

 

Yeah i would have thought there would be alot more talk about this card and the machines then we have seen thus far ....

Its all been very strange for such new tech to basically have no coverage and knowing these machines are in peoples hands... Ah well come friday and we should have some temps etc from the 9285...

 

Well as you can understand when these new cards come out there could be a little driver immaturity. I do see this. 3Dmark does ok at around 18k with the standard driver on the CD that comes from Clevo. Vantage is not working for me right now. I really want to find some good drivers for this 480m. Anyone know of any besides the CD one? I do not like to run furmark but I did for 10 minutes and the temps got to 72c.

 

Not likely going to have compatible drivers from nvidia yet, considering that the card is not even supposedly to be on buyer's hands yet.

72C after 10 min furmark is really impressive if true, it's the same max temp furmark as my 5870MR, but that's after ICD thermal paste and ambient temp of around 15-20C. Moreover, considering that 480M has a TDP of 100W, and still getting the same temp, it's truly some imba cooling there.

 

72 degrees is beyond amazing considering the ATI average in the 80s -90s ....

As for Vantage thats no biggie but you could try some other things like some game benchmarks ... Crysis, Resident Evil 5, Far Cry 2, Dirt2 etc... Im not sure what games you have if any at all so those are just some suggestions...

If the temps are truly that low then that machine has some serious room to grow and will stomp on the 5870m in the end pretty good if its OC friendly...


Fzhfzh if your Furmark temps are that low that is even more impressive as i could never get near that temp with my W8760CU and the average i got was around 81ish cant remember my Ambient temps at the time though...

 

Yes that is one thing already I'm happy about, and that is the temps. There was so much talk of this card having a melt down, being a furnace, etc. Not true at all. I tell you the truth from what I have done so far, which is not a whole lot it seems cooler than the W870CU with the 5870 in it. The Furmark for over 10 minutes was only 72c. Clevo has really done an excellent job in this 8lb notebook to keep this baby cool. Just look at the heatsinks back a few posts...

 

Yes, if true, it totally debunked the speculation that 480M will be like an oven. It's making me wanting to change to a 8850... but the price is simply too prohibitive...

It's the core temp from hwinfo32 though, not the one shown by furmark which is the memIO temp, for memIO temp on furmark the lowest I've gotten is only till 78C.

 

Yeah the temps are far better then i expected ... Truly amazing stuff ...

If thats your highest temp its still very good.... More so if your not using a cooler of any kind.... I dont use a cooler for any of my machines.. Max temp on furmark is 88 on my M15x for comparison sake... The heatsinks on both machines are nothing alike but i am still more then happy with my temps since i dont see that gaming anyhow ....

I agree the cost is just wrong for the 480m and there is part of me that wants another 17 inch Clevo but im still not sure the extra cost is going to be worth it in the end to me .... I really enjoy the 3hours of battery life on this machine and the extra amenities like backlit keys great sound etc....

I really did enjoy my W8760CU while i had it though ...

 

babyhemi, is a NP9285 anywhere near you as well for some temp tests?

 

My friend ordered one(NP9285) today and will have it friday so ill be sure to have him post some temps ....

 

u do that and we will be even more grateful for your contributions

 

No problem ... He is putting a 6core 980x into the machine lol so it should be real interesting .... I know i am excited for him and to see the results ...

 

Those are good temps, I am almost inclined to say that something is wrong if those are the real temps. Either way, it all looks good until now, except for the price.

Tell me babyhemi, are the memory timings of the GTX 480M N1 ? I can't tell for sure from your pictures.

 

I don't know about that, these sites review tri-sli desktop gtx480s all the time, and seems like the only info were getting are from resellers, which might be biased.

 

Did the 8850 replace the Sentilic touchpads (tap-to-scroll) with the Synaptics touchpads to allow finger-slide scrolling?

Are the speaker volume/clarity improved on the 8850 over the 8760?

 

No the 8850 does have the Sentilic touchpads. I haven't put the audio to the test yet, but will...

So far looks like the temps and 3DMark 06 are doing better in the W880CU/8850 than that of the 9285-D900F so far. We will see...

http://forum.notebookreview.com/sager-clevo-reviews-owners-lounges/381138-d900f-sager-9280-owners-lounge-190.html#post6412348

 

The 480M temps you guys are reporting are remarkable given the pre-release reviews (or speculation).

 

strange enough. why 8850 by babyhemi score higher than 9285 by Charles? what's res did you use to test your system? can you provide some pics like Charles did?

 

Thank you! I look forward to your thoughts on the audio tests.

It is a shame that Clevo/Sager uses the Sentilic touchpads on their higher end models like the 8850 and 8760.

 

Here is one, but not the highest score I got with temps. We need better drivers for this 480M....

 

wow, 17.7k on 3dmark06, and that is without oc yet. my 5870 with oc only reach 14.8k.

does the score in the 3dmark06 affected with the cpu used? am using 820qm.

 

Yes, 06 score is heavily influenced by cpu.

 

Below is the Everest report of key hardware...

Motherboard:

CPU Type QuadCore Intel Core i7 Extreme 920XM, 3200 MHz (24 x 133)

Motherboard Name Clevo W880CU

Motherboard Chipset Intel Ibex Peak-M PM55, Intel Lynnfield

System Memory 4084 MB (DDR3-1333 DDR3 SDRAM)
BIOS Type Phoenix (06/23/10)


Display:
Video Adapter NVIDIA GeForce GTX 480M (2048 MB)

Video Adapter NVIDIA GeForce GTX 480M (2048 MB)

Monitor Generic PnP Monitor [NoDB] (20155039)

Multimedia:
Audio Adapter Realtek ALC888/1200 @ High Definition Audio Controller [10DE-0BE5] [NoDB]

Audio Adapter Realtek ALC888/1200 @ Intel Ibex Peak PCH - High Definition Audio Controller


Storage:
IDE Controller Intel(R) 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset Family 6 Port SATA AHCI Controller - 3B2F

Disk Drive CORSAIR CMFSSD-256GBG2D ATA Device (238 GB, IDE)

Disk Drive ST9500420AS ATA Device (500 GB, 7200 RPM, SATA-II)

Optical Drive HL-DT-ST BDDVDRW CT21N ATA Device

SMART Hard Disks Status OK

Partitions:
C: (NTFS) 244095 MB (210420 MB free)
D: (NTFS) 476937 MB (279139 MB free)
Total Size 704.1 GB (478.1 GB free)

Input:
Keyboard HID Keyboard Device
Keyboard Standard PS/2 Keyboard
Mouse Finger Sensing Pad
Mouse HID-compliant mouse

Network:


Network Adapter Intel(R) Centrino(R) Ultimate-N 6300 AGN (192.168.0.192)

Modem Motorola SM56 Data Fax Modem

Peripherals:


USB1 Controller NEC Electronics USB 3.0 Host Controller [1033-0194] [NoDB]
USB2 Controller Intel Ibex Peak PCH - USB 2.0 EHCI Controller 1
USB2 Controller Intel Ibex Peak PCH - USB 2.0 EHCI Controller 2
USB Device BisonCam, NB Pro
USB Device Fingerprint Sensor
USB Device Generic USB Hub
USB Device Generic USB Hub
USB Device USB Composite Device
USB Device USB Composite Device
USB Device USB Input Device
USB Device USB Input Device
USB Device USB Input Device
USB Device USB Mass Storage Device
Battery Microsoft AC Adapter
Battery Microsoft ACPI-Compliant Control Method Battery
Battery Microsoft Composite Battery

DMI:
DMI BIOS Vendor Phoenix Technologies LTD

DMI BIOS Version CALPELLACRB.86C.0000.X.0000000000
DMI System Manufacturer CLEVO CO.
DMI System Product W880CU
DMI System Version Not Applicable
DMI System Serial Number Not Applicable
DMI System UUID 0090F5A3-45F10000-00000000-00000000
DMI Motherboard Manufacturer CLEVO CO.
DMI Motherboard Product W880CU
DMI Motherboard Version Not Applicable
DMI Motherboard Serial Number Not Applicable
DMI Chassis Manufacturer CLEVO CO.

 

First 20k single GPU rig

 

thanks for pics

 

Any vantage runs yet? Or is did I miss it in this thread.

 

Here is the Vantage score from the NP9285 but the GPU score should be almost exactly the same across both machines...

http://forum.notebookreview.com/6412348-post1896.html

 

I'm not sure if anyone posted the Clevo W880CU-8850 Manual yet.

 

Do you know if the touch pad is a Sentelic STL3886?
Under website it states: "The device also comes with an optional vendor's driver to support the additional features for the system users, such as on-pad virtual zones for vertical and horizontal scrolling."

That is what Im having some hesititation with about the 8850..

Or better yet if you have it, does it have finger scrolling at all??

Try these drivers out.. they support that gpu chipset.

http://download.laptopvideo2go.com/nvidia/255series/25869_win7x64.exe

http://www.laptopvideo2go.com/infs/255series/25869_win7x64/nv_disp.inf

You gotta replace the inf file into the folder from 258.69 drivers.

 

It is Sentelic version 8.5.2.2 STL. Yes there is finger scrolling that can be configured the way you like it in the driver/software. I myself disable the touch pad because I like to use my usb mouse for scrolling and such. It is so much better... imo...

 

Anyone buy an 8850 yet and willing to post some benchmarks?

 

What do you know...I was finally able to do a Vantage run. There is got to be better drivers to come. I tried 2 suggested drivers from laptopvideo and they will not fully install even with the modded inf files for it. I am stuck with the CD driver from Clevo for now...

 

Do an install from the device manager(Manual install) and not from the setup ... Thats how we got Speedy Gonzalez drivers installed... He is using the 258.69 drivers ...

The scores did not seem to change though even with the newest drivers but atleast they are the latest..

 

I'm guessing that's with physx turned on? Can you run it again with it off?

 

EDIT;


Thought you were referring to Witchers bench, BLURB! Witcher however in his D900F also scored about 8k GPU.

The GPU scores from the 9280/D900f are getting soundly beat by Hemi's benches which is very strange indeed.

 

That 1500 point difference is from an Overclock ...

Your not going to get 1500 points more from a new set of drivers and all the scores to date were showing around the 8k mark in Vantage on the GPU stock..

I think Hemi forgot to mention he Overclocked ? ...

 

I thought Chaz said he was using Nvidia Inspector 1.7, and implied he was overclocking himself already though...

 

With those temps, I start to wonder why Nvidia did not bumped up the clocks and left them so low. It looks like there is enough room for a decent 20% overclock.

 

Did another Vantage run. I may have to repaste my CPU, hitting 80c. Not too bad but I like the 70's better.

 

You need to turn Physx OFF. Your vantage scores are falsely inflated.

It could be drivers, the latest Catalyst 10.6 boosted my Vantage score by over 1000 (see sig) with a lower overclock on the GPU. The thing is that he keeps using physx for his vantage scores so we can't see what his CPU is really supposed to get. If it's not the drivers then it could be he's OC'ing and not mentioning it though I'd be surprised as to why he'd do anything like that.

 

Physx never boosted the GPU score.

 

Who said it did?