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    Official Coffee Lake Thread/BIOS For ALL SkyLake/KabyLake Clevo LGA1151 laptops

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by DaMafiaGamer, Jul 31, 2018.

  1. MadDoctor

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    Looks like it is under the touch pad but requires disassembly of the laptop
     
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    I'll check it out. Hopefully I can get this fixed before next week.
     
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    I have the laptop disassembled but the computer I am using does not seem to recognize the skypro. Any tips?
     
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    Reflashed the BIOS and used a dremmel to cut the metal under the keyboard for easy BIOS access. Apparently there was something wrong (dont know what) with my previous flash. Now TS detects the threads properly. Will post benchmarks today or tomorrow the maximum
     
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    Noice :)
     
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    I'll post photos of the area cut around the chip. It's way easier to access the BIOS this way. Don't have to tear down the whole laptop lol. Tomorrow I'll post the benchmarks
     
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    Question : mine is w650kk1, about the gop version do i have to check it?
     
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    Greetings,

    I have attempted a flash via usb but it had sadly failed. i used the p7xxdmx bios for the Clevo P775DM3-G i own ( the one with i76700k) i am not sure of i chose the right bios since the dm3-g is not listed at all. What i had done is i followed the instructions from the readme and theb allowed rhe laptoo to reboot wothout the hdd and ssd in. it booted to no screen display. what i might suspect moghr be the cause is the fact that despite the card having the gop of 0x0..36 it has had an unlocked version of this bios woth a tdp of 210 watt and max limit of 240watt. i had unlocked the vbios by programming it after unlocking it with another poular guide on this forum. let me know if that could be the case. it shpuldnt since the bios was fully finctuonal befofe for 4 months. the other thing i also did was i did reset the bios before flashing to default settings. hope that wasnt the issue

    my i76700k is already sold and im about to ship it out anf my i5 8600k will be there tomorrow. i have access tp a friend who has an spi programmer and owns a repair shop. what shpukd i do now?

    can ypu help me abd tell me where the bios chip is on p775dm3? and if that laptop is even supported?
     
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    The chip is in the middle, under the keyboard, under the chassis. Yes you will need to disassemble the whole machine and access the motherboard directly under the keyboard (taking out the keyboard only won't be enough).

    I did cut the metal under the keyboard for easy access to the BIOS since disassembling is a pain in the ass.

    Not at home or near the laptop at the moment but at night I'll post photos of the cut and where the BIOS is so you can flash it.

    My laptop is out of warranty that's why I cut the metal, it voids the warranty. Later I'll post said photos
     
  10. Tumultous

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    i am not even sure if i have warranty on it as its a second hand and bought in 2017 but i think i did find the chip. i disassemblee the whole thing. I am wary though since i did pull put ( i wqs very careful abd slow) some of the tape connectors from the power button and the wifi card. there is so many oesky screws. also i cant seem to be able to pry the part of th chassis at the back where the screen iw attached. it seems clasped and i was afraid to pry it open. my friend will do it since he's got the expertise. If You send the pics it will be of great help since there is a lot of chips that look like ecc or bios
    did You do the mod yourself? does coffee lake work on your laptop?
     
  11. joluke

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    Look at my signature and you'll find the response there for yourself ;)
    (hint: cpu: 8700k currently)
     
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    @DaMafiaGamer can you give a bit more info on that issue? i also own hyperx ram, i am unsure if ill have to sell it now. Is there any updates that can fix this

    @joluke did you have the sam e problems with your ram?
     
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    Got one module of hyperx and no issues on my P775DM3-G. Got 2 more sticks but from crucial
     
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    found your photo and gonna save it as reference. did you have a kabylake or skylake version of cpu?. im bit sure if it makes a difference. lets hioe the modded vbios of the gpu will boot. if not ill flash that too. Did ypu reflash the backuo bios and program the new coffee lake one woth a prpgrammer? or am i safe just deleting the failed flash and retrying again with the coffee lake with a programmer?.

    also if possoble could you upload the exact bios ypu used, i think the one in the op isnt the newest version
     
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    Had a 6700k (skylake) and now a 8700k (coffee lake)

    I'm using the BIOS from OP on my P775DM3-G. Need to ask @dsanke for permissions to share the new one he sent me. In case he approves it I can share but it's only for P775DM3-G, not any other model.
     
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    Ok then that will suffice. I hope you can get the permission by friday/thursday since i am taking the laptop to my friend at that time. I already messaged dskanke about it on email. When this whole mess is over im donating to him on paypal, if thecrepair dpesnt suck on every penny i have to spare lol

    what about the procedure on the programming? should i just program it now over the non working bios?
     
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    @Tumultous @dsanke is such a great guy! He did provide me with a new bios but haven't tested it yet. Will probably do during the upcoming week. Let me know if @dsanke tells you something. I did a donation to him but I will do another one for sure to help him :)
     
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    As promised here are the photos of the cut i did in the chassis (This will void your warranty if you do it, keep that in mind!!!!):

    As you can see, WAY easier acess in case i need to flash the BIOS in the future!

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    As a reminder for anyone seeing this little mod:

    This VOIDS your warranty!!! Do it at your own risk in case you wanna do it!

    The BIOS is near the yellow tape, which was used to avoid cuts in my fingers, because the metal is quit thick when cutting it (which doesn't appear at first sight but it is thich (around 2 and a half milimiters))

    And no this doesn't provoke any short circuits or anything like it... just a clean cut and clean the sharp edges around it and thats it :)

    Enjoy :D
     
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    Thank You so much for your help.
    to everyone reading, do maje sure not to program the wrong chip, theres a plethora of them scattered around on the board but only one is the correct one, and it does look pretty distinct. I am having my hopes up, getting my i5 tomorrow, lets hope i will not have to rebuy my i 7 6700 k lol
     
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    Nah mate! Its easy to do! The hard part is getting the laptop disassembled! :D

    The isolation of the pins in the cpu is a pain in the ass too! lol

    Just be patient and do things calmly! Don't rush stuff :)
     
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    forget to tell you, the last 2 bios i sent you were tested.

    you can, i've sent to @DaMafiaGamer too to let him update in thread.
    p75x/p775/dm2/dm3/g use the same bios file.

    @ Tumultous i saw your email.
    your device won't be broken, what you need to do is flash again via spi programmer.
    only the first time you flash from official/original mod bios will cause black screen. and i've found the reason. because the original bios is 3MB+5MB,and TM based bios is 2MB+6MB, when bios flash done and device shutdown normally, BIOS will write old NVRAM to new BIOS, which the area is not NVRAM, cause BIOS data damaged, and it can't boot.so for this situation, just remove main battery, when flash done,directly cut off ac power, it won't cause bios damaged.
     
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    Do you mean that hooking the laptop up again with Ac power and battery it will boot normally?
     
  23. dsanke

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    yes. when you cut off ac power, the flash progress is done. and then you can use it normally.
     
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    Important info for the opening posts instructions ! ;)

    Oh and a lot of people inhere would have liked to known this before they bricked the bios, including myself.
     
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    Don't worry so much about it! With a SPI programmer you can easily recover a bricked BIOS flash! A EC brick is another story though so be careful if you go around messing with the EC!

    @dsanke i did try the method you said and the flash of the modified TM1 BIOS worked! :D
     
  26. DaMafiaGamer

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    Hi guys, I won’t keep you waiting long for the updated Bioses @dsanke had kindly linked me. I’m on holiday/have been for the past 3 weeks but i will be returning to the UK in 2 days. This thread should be updated by the 7th of April. The instructions will also be edited to include the new instructions of forcing the laptop off after a bios flash to avoid nvram corruption.
     
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    Hey when i use nvflash-tool to check what gop version am i using, it kept said error because i using bios instead of uefi?
    So i can skip the ‘gop version’ processing ?
    (P.s mine is w650kk1)
     
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    Are you sure you are running it as administrator inside windows?
     
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    Yep running as administrator in it
    Why that?
     
  30. dsanke

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    only device use mxm graphic card need check gop version. your device have a bga one so you dont need to do this.
     
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    Ah great thanks for the info!
     
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    New BIOS is working great :D

    Does the new versions of ME actually bring something new like stability or something? I remember seeing Prema saying something about updating it and fixing a Intel bug on it. Any ideas?
     
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    well, new ME FW will block old PCH run new CPU, so there will never have ME FW update for these devices.
     
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    Screw it then
     
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    @dsanke @DaMafiaGamer Hey guys is there any way i could get a hold of the new bios today or tomorriw. im going to the servuce center to the guy that has the spi programmer tomorrow and it would be great if i could already program in the new bios.
     
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    already sent to you.
     
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    Thank You so so much <3
    Just a question if i do upgrade to the new bios how is the ram support? still the same as dm3g model or shpuld i go by tm1 specs? i am considering upgrading my ram to 2x8 Gskill 3000mhz kit. im bit sure if it will worj since now i have the hyperx 2400 running. i know 3200 mhz does not work on clevo but will 3000mhz work?

    where did you send it im new to the forum

    EDIT: found it never mind. thanks so much
     
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    your gmail, isn't you?

    it will have better compatibility than original dm2 bios but it's not as good as tm. i think 3000 is proper.
     
  39. Tumultous

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    @dsanke another important thing to address, i saw a guide by luumi on youtube for the coffee lqke cpus on z170 and he did stress the importance of shorting two pins in 3rd from the middle row on top side of cpu together woth silver paint or pencil over isolating two pins on the left. is that necessary? the guide here does not mention it
     
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    no necessary for laptop because the motherboard do not detect whether you install cpu via that pin.
     
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    ok so i isolatedthe proper lins the cpu arrived today and got it installed. we flashed the newset bios with a nice blue clevo logo and the cpu is discovered and does work. however i can not get the cpu over 800mhz. it seems hard locked there. i tried raisibg power limits 1 2 and 3 in bios to max rhey would go to and it still didnt work. will i have to reibstall windows? i will put the old cpu back abd try to cyeck if this one is limited too.
    the only thing i am suspecting is the fact that i didnt uninstall intel xtu bedore that and it had saved settings for the i7 6700k undervolt.
    other thing that i may expect is rhat when i took the laptop to the prpgrammer i had a failed instal of the old bios from the op for p775 ibstalled and we had installed the new bios you @dsanke sent me over gmail. coukd that be a problem with the bad cpu, or bad bios or the xtu?

    EDIT: did you have any of such problems? @joluke

    also edit, i will upload the picof the isolated pads soon. maybe there is a bit of overshhot of kapton tape on one of the pins
     
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    first, uninstall intel xtu, clevo cc or other control program, and shutdown.
    second,unplug ac, remove battery and cmos battery.
    now remove cpu, and check the socket, whether one or more pins are broken. and use eraser clean the pins on cpu surface.
    then reinstall cmos battery,battery and plug in ac.
    make sure your heatsink have install properly, hold fn+d+power for 15 seconds, then release keys, and wait for it boot.
    when it boot to system check the freq again.
     
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    that would probably make sense. i have command center from obsidian. and fan control. ill. uninstall all of them, then take a look at the cpu. ill clean it all if necessary
     
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    Intel xtu did this ******** with me as well went from a 6700k to a 8700k and it was stuck at 800mhz. Got rid of xtu and never installed that TRASH again.

    I would use throttlestop for undervolting and overclocking, a better alternative. Xtu just causes problems.
     
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    I installed back the i76700 and it was at 4000 i think it was the matter of running the pc again. i checked the pins, one of them was receeded more than the others. but i am not sure if thats normal or not. i didnt reset the cmos and take out the battery before. but only removing the xtu didnt do it. ill reinstall the 8600k, turn reset the cmos. turn it on, reset the cmos again and check. heres the pic of my isolation job. hioe the japton tape doesnt cover too much of other pins
     

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    I wanted to inform You guys that thanks to your help, all is fine and dandy now, and everythnig works as intended or maybe even better
    sadly i somehow damaged my ssd in the process of disassembling and assembling the laptop again and iwll need to recover the data somehow :D.

    Now i realized tho that i really cant run the cpu past 4100 4200 at voltages lower than 1.1 if i am to keep my 1912mhz on core on the gtx 1080, without the cpu clocking down I am assuming the 330w brick is running out of power and is throttling the 8600k, prioritizing gpu power over power to it. Ill make a post in the oc section about it.
     
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    I would propose to set a voltage curve in MSI afterburner for your 1080 @0,9v around 1860mhz (you need to test the best voltage/mhz curve), then it will use around 150-160W. The performance wont change much (minor, like 1%) but it will be -10C cooler and give enough headroom for cpu to go around 4,5ghz. The joint heatpipe of 775dm3 is suboptimal, but with curve it is managable (I had this type and use like that).
     
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    Thanks for the tip
     
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    interesting so the intel xtu can stop the modded cpu from overclocking/undervolting isnt it?
    is there another alternivtive beside intel xtu ?
     
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