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    P150EM Upgrading from 675M to 680M!

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by hackness, Jun 28, 2012.

  1. SlickDude80

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  2. hackness

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    @svl7

    The GTX680M vbios you requested, used nvflash_windows_5.118 to backup, vbios size is 87kb(89088 bytes).

    View attachment GTX680M.zip

    [​IMG]
     
    hackness, Jul 4, 2012
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    66 degree celsius is amazing. 580M got up to almost around 90 degree celsius in this notebook if I remember correctly?

    Like Meaker says, 3DMark looks at the core speed before the test is loaded on to the GPU, so many times it is still idling/downclocked and you get low MHz read :)

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    Request: Do a Battlefield 3 run and find the average FPS.
    1920x1080 ultra 4xMSAA + 16xAF is the settings. According to notebookcheck you should get around 34FPS which I suspect is wrong
     
    Cloudfire, Jul 4, 2012
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  4. hackness

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    Awesome!! Thank you very much! Looks good, seems to be complete. :)
     
    svl7, Jul 4, 2012
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  6. hackness

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    Great!! :D

    @SlickDude80

    Did you run in Dx11 mode? Also what's your setting for Edge AA?
     
    hackness, Jul 4, 2012
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  7. Cloudfire

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    Here is something to compare against hackness

    The first one here is on stock clocks
     
    Cloudfire, Jul 4, 2012
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  8. SlickDude80

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    Hey hackness, run these settings:

     
    SlickDude80, Jul 4, 2012
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  9. Cloudfire

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    Is that stock clocks Slickdude? Just so we are on the same page :)

    Let the comparisons begin :)
     
    Cloudfire, Jul 4, 2012
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    Congratulations Hackness purchase gtx680m :)
    Install Nvidia inspector 1.9.6.6 !
    The best program for mobile cards and not only : O
    As the only one you should show the correct clocks and monitoring
    Quite possibly the oc the card and it will be possible : D
     
    CzarnyMax, Jul 4, 2012
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  11. fantomasz

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    hehehe my laptop on same setting get 17fps average
     
    fantomasz, Jul 4, 2012
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  12. hackness

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    OK this is what I got at stock clock.

    [​IMG]
     
    hackness, Jul 4, 2012
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  13. fantomasz

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    benchmark look good but how this laptop run in games
    did you try to play any?
     
    fantomasz, Jul 4, 2012
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  14. hackness

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    Thanks man :D

    Tried BF3, bumping between 40 and 50 fps. Metro 2033 is only 25 fps on max setting.
     
    hackness, Jul 4, 2012
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    thnx hackness, looks like the 680m is performing quite good on your machine. It is performing as expected...now how about some OC numbers ;)

    Being the first has a lot of responsibilities LOL

    I'll rep you again when i can :D
     
    SlickDude80, Jul 4, 2012
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    That pretty much confirms that Notebookcheck review is a total faulty review. They got 34FPS in average on Battlefield on max settings.

    You and the other reviewers (The Verge) got around 44FPS in average. Nvidia themselves also got around 45ish FPS which puts it 18% ahead of 7970M, not 7% behind

    Metro 2033 scores seems dead on though
     
    Cloudfire, Jul 4, 2012
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    it doesn't prove anything. BF3 varies from map to map, and wild fluctuations within the same map. THen, you throw in multiplayer which messes with the numbers even more.

    All we can hope for is that the notebookcheck review was done consistently...meaning they used the same sequence, the same map with all their laptops

    All we can deduce from hacknesses 40-50 is that it is playable and he is happy with it

    And this is why I like the crysis bench above. It is 100% reproduceable and is the same regardless of who runs it
     
    SlickDude80, Jul 4, 2012
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  18. amirfoox

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    How come it's so far behind SlickDude's 7970? Due to the OC?

    The min FPS look better, though.
     
    amirfoox, Jul 4, 2012
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    i game at 950/1400...so it isn't an apples to apples.

    As stated in an above post, my crysis 2 bench was run at 950/1400

    I will run a stock bench tonight

    i'm very interested to see the OC'ed numbers coming from the 680m on the same crysis bench
     
    SlickDude80, Jul 4, 2012
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    Yes good points you make Slickdude. But the thing is that Notebookcheck tried single player and they got much lower FPS than 2 reviews now. So weird that both reviews test less resource heavy areas while notebookcheck apparantly does not.

    Yes the Crysis 2 benchmark is total legit and is a good measure. We should do more of these, but stock vs stock so that no one get confused.

    I think Batman also have a ingame benchmark. :)
     
    Cloudfire, Jul 4, 2012
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    Can we has OC game benches? (Bf3 multiplayer with map name & settings) would appreciate it.

    maybe they didn't even bother setting at high performance and disabling/closing all the other programs while doing the tests. good news is that real owners are finally posting the legit benchmarks.
     
    3Stars&ASun, Jul 4, 2012
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  22. hackness

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    Front post updated, check it out guys.
     
    hackness, Jul 4, 2012
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    hackness, if you have Skyrim, I would most appreciate if you could please bench it as well.

    Please? Pretty please? :D
     
    amirfoox, Jul 4, 2012
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    I'd have to redownload it :D, I'll do it few days later lol. I'll look into OC too, still need to find out which software to OC, since Msi afterburner doesn't read the clock. Will probably be nvidia inspector tho.
     
    hackness, Jul 4, 2012
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    Stock, my Crysis 2 bench numbers were a few percentage points higher than the 680m bench. This is consistent though as crysis 2 tends to favor amd.

    I'll run a stock bench tonight and post the numbers
     
    SlickDude80, Jul 4, 2012
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    BF3 on ultra?
    do You have Witcher 2 ?
     
    fantomasz, Jul 4, 2012
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  27. hackness

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    Check out the front post :D Everything is on there.
     
    hackness, Jul 4, 2012
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    Thanks hackness for the pics. I will rep you when I can again. :)
    Maybe you can do a heaven benchmark run too?

    Compare 7970M and 680M anyway you can guys. Use any game benchmark you can find so they are legit. Everything at stock first, then later move to the overclocking part. So we can finally figure out how these two GPUs stand in comparision to each other

    Looking forward to your crysis 2 scores Slickdude :)
     
    Cloudfire, Jul 4, 2012
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    Post Hackness which shows nvidia inspector :) ?
    Sam I am curious .


    My gtx580m + nvidia = full power of inspector 1.9.6.6 :)

    Well, I see that it's time to change the card :)
     
    CzarnyMax, Jul 4, 2012
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  30. hackness

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    I haven't tried it out yet, will try it asap.

    Sure, but it'll probably be tomorrow :D
     
    hackness, Jul 4, 2012
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    Your results on the front page are almost consistent with nVIDIA's press bench sheet:
    http://www.notebookcheck.net/typo3temp/pics/92c554a8ba.png

    The FPS does fall short here and there from nVIDIA's, but that's to be expected. Overall, the results are very reassuring.

    Thank you very much for the info!
     
    amirfoox, Jul 4, 2012
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    Yeah that would be lol-worthy. Maybe they were doing disk defragment or something when doing the BF3 run on the 680M lol :p

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    @hackness:
    Another thing I think the community wants to know is the temperature of the GPU while gaming, especially when gaming demanding games like Metro and BF. Cheers :)
     
    Cloudfire, Jul 4, 2012
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    Hang on... So, so far crysis 2 runs better stock on the 7970M?
     
    EddieHarris, Jul 4, 2012
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    gpu at 99% during games?
     
    fantomasz, Jul 4, 2012
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    That 7970M score is overclocked. Slickdude will upload stock scores later.

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    No rush hackness, you already have given us much information today. Just take your time and enjoy your beautiful beast. Your FPS scores in the games make me want the 680M even more. I need to figure out ASAP which notebook I will get :D
     
    Cloudfire, Jul 4, 2012
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  36. ichime

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    Those 680M numbers look pretty good. I can't wait to see some overclocked numbers!

    Anyways, here is a run of my 7970M setup with Crossfire disabled (one card running), stock GPU clocks:

    [​IMG]

    Also, ignore the temps, I opened HWinfo after I ran the benchmarks.
     
    ichime, Jul 4, 2012
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    Ya, that's about right. Crysis 2 always favored amd.

    REP for being the first R2 with xfire 7970m ;)
     
    SlickDude80, Jul 4, 2012
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    Thanks :)

    So,
    7970M: 44.6FPS
    680M: 41.9FPS

    Quite weird though: 7970M get higher max FPS than 680M, while 680M get higher min FPS (11FPS vs 18FPS)
     
    Cloudfire, Jul 4, 2012
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  39. kolias

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    And you have only the i-7 920xm...nice....
     
    kolias, Jul 4, 2012
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  40. Speedy Gonzalez

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    here is unigine heaven -crysis - crysis 2 - vantage - 11 all stock 7970m even thought the benchmarks are pretty equal I prefer nvidia :D

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]
     

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    Its called Nvidia's stable drivers...

    [​IMG]
     
    3Stars&ASun, Jul 4, 2012
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    Please don't start this stuff again, guys. Not here.

    I want to know how the 680M performs in real world conditions, let's not get this thread closed as well with this nonsense, please.
     
    amirfoox, Jul 4, 2012
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    I agree. Lets just keep this thread as a comparison thread. And lets look at it objectively. Benchmarks and temperatures and everything. :)

    Crysis 2, 7970M have 6% more FPS in Average. Both GPUs have well over 30FPS, so both are more than 30FPS for smooth gaming

    Now we also have a Crysis 1 benchmark to compare thanks to Speedy. I`d also like to request Batman benchmark done by both GPUs. Maybe do the same map with both GPUs in Battlefield + Metro and compare that too :)
     
    Cloudfire, Jul 4, 2012
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    I was just stating a fact, not an argument. I didn't say AMD drivers sucks or anything :D

    BTW, Hackness did you have 4xMSAA and HBAO on while doing those fps tests for ultra and high settings for BF3?
     
    3Stars&ASun, Jul 4, 2012
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    I crashed 7 times in 10min when playing Final Fantasy XIV with the GTX 680M, really need a better driver lol.
     
    hackness, Jul 4, 2012
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    he is right guys... ;)
     
    kolias, Jul 4, 2012
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  47. hackness

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    I assumed that those settings are changed by selecting the High/ultra since they were grayed out :).
     
    hackness, Jul 4, 2012
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    nice job brother hackness!
    + rep
     
    Johnksss, Jul 4, 2012
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    @hackness: maybe you should change the thread name into something like "user benchmark thread 7970M vs. 680M" :p
     
    jaybee83, Jul 4, 2012
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  50. amirfoox

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    Ouch. Bad news as well...

    These two annoying companies with their lackluster driver support... :realmad:
     
    amirfoox, Jul 4, 2012
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