P1xxEM User Manuals Posted!

Yeah that's what I thought, thanks mate, I would imagine that if something like that would change it would be all over the place

 

Updated OP to include the specs from the latest version of the user manual.

 

I read somewhere that if you use the ODD as a HD then it would make your internal drive SATA II also... is that a myth? or only to specific models?

 

Thats a lie, only way that would work is if you RAID'ed the drives, then the RAID would only go as fast as the slowest drive.

 

that was quick, and thanks, thought it sounded funny

 

Is the power supplies for the clevo models interchangable? as in the 300W to the 220W to the 180W?

 

They are not, they make specific ones for each model. Asus does only make 3 in different wattage which can be interchanged but Clevo/Sager are not.

 

Was looking into cheating with big power in smaller laptop incase the bigger GPUs draw too much power, but that info sets my options on the larger power and larger laptop. Thanks for the update though as the option are much clearer now.

 

If you were determined enough you could probably splice the end of the correct one onto the larger psu.. Might need to use the ID wire from the smaller one though which means you'll need to have two psu's running at the same time.. Possible to simply not use the ID wire and see if it works right (assuming it has and ID wire and it's limited by ID).. Definitely not covered under warranty though lol

 

Sounds like a lot more trouble than it is worth. This makes me want the bigger laptop... but then I think it's a laptop not a desktop... what the do I expect. Semi mobile gaming rig. So leaning back to the 15.6 again because the 17.3 is just too much. Pro con thing I guess between the two. The keyboard layout could have been more of a deal breaker though because the 17.3 has more room to work with... but they didn't.

 

It sounds like its too much trouble to me too. It would be interesting to see if it helped overclock the 150 any though. The 180W brick has gotta be close to being topped out when you through in a XM and a nice GPU. I think with similarly spec'd machines, the 170 barely out scores the 150 in vantage (I believe they're similarly spec'd in the xotic OC videos), and that could be chalked up to GPU quality differences.

I've gone back and forth between the 150 and 170 a billion times. I had a 150HM ordered and paid for, then I had them switch me to a 170 build, but then changed that at the last minute to a 150 build lol. Myth was really cool about it and hadn't scrapped my 150 build just in case, so it wasn't a problem for them to switch me back.

Now that I'm ordering an EM, I'm entertaining the 170, but every time I use my girlfriends 17" I get annoyed at how large it is. I know I'll end up with a 15, and I'll be plenty happy when it actually gets to my hands lol. And if I want a larger screen, I can use the money I saved by sticking with the 150 over the 170 to get an external screen.

 

I am going back and forth between a 150 and a 170 myself. My last laptop was 17 inch and while I liked it, it was a pain to lug around, especially on a flight. So, I think a 15. But then, I want it as a desktop replacement primarily anyway so I won't really be moving it around that much. So, I think a 17. But then, if I have it hooked up to a monitor most of the time, I don't need a 17 inch screen. Back and forth and back and forth . . . .

 

I would think if a 150 can get close to the 170 in performance but still have the mobility of a 15.6 then that is pretty awesome. But if I load it down and the power gives out... then that would plain suck. To be limited by power alone and not the components would be horrible. Like the horror stories of the x7200... so want to avoid going through what they went through.

 

I seriously doubt you could out-tap the 180W PSU, even with extreme overclocking.

No one ever reported doing it with the P150HM, so there's no reason to expect such a thing now.

 

you shouldn't hit a wall under regular usage.. if you try overclocking, you'll be able to do some, but realistically you'll probably hit a wall at some point. and even then, you'll probably only see that when benchmarking. It's not like the 170 is scoring a ton higher then the 150 in benchmarks as long as the CPU isn't overclocked.

Clevo hasn't allowed the 150 to be overclock due to the power limits. that's why the 170 had it, but they (attempted) to block it from the 170 3D models. Prema found a way around it and has gotten XM overlclocking to work on the 170 3D model. Presumably he'll be able to get XM overclocking working on the 150EM's this year. If he does, throw in an overvolt for the gpu and that's probably where we'll start to see the limits of the 180W psu..

 

Well I guess it's nothing to worry about in the short term and in normal configs.

 

How do you remove the lid on the P15xEM, can't find it in the manual

 

That's not something they dont want you doing, that's why it's not in the manual.. You could ask your reseller, but it could void your screen warranty. Probably screws behind the rubber squares and I'd imagine the bezel kind of clips into the lid. Chance of breaking the bezel while removing it too..

 

lol, the classic fragile clip traps of laptops. Least if that's true it's only with the lid.

 

Well unless you actually know how to do it that is

Even the most customized laptops are limited.. such a annoyance

 

My dream of wrapping the bezel in gold leaf has ended... Jk . Kind of not a fan of glossy bezel

 

I think somewhere on here there's pics of someone who scuffed up their bezel..

 

Bump.........

 

Anybody knows if and where I can find the Service Manual for the P1xxEM models?

I've found the Service Manual for the P15xHM models but not for the P1xxEM...

 

There should be links in the original post to download them.

 

No, those are the User Manuals (complete and concise versions), the same ones you can download from the Clevo website.

The Service Manual has the disassembly instructions, several datasheets, and other things.

 

It's all in one pdf I remember. But you won't find instruction to dissemble all parts, they only provide instructions for a few parts


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The EM Service Manuals have not leaked into the wild yet.

 

Just wondering, but what sparked the discussion about overtaxing the 180w PSU's?

 

Bumpy bumpy, this pic of the P370EM just appeared here: P370EM

 

It was primarily looking at overclocking. Since some say the 100W gpu with 55W XM processor. Was looking at if maxed out if it would hold up...155W was assuming that max holds up. If OC goes above watt then was wondering how much 25W to spare would mean. Kind of moot point, no biggie. Was also considering that when pushing these power supplies they do get hot, so was thinking the 220W would stay cooler under load... and thus last longer.

 

P150EM/P151EM1 SERVICE manual : http://www.pcw.fr/pdf/P150EM.pdf

P170EM SERVICE manual : http://www.pcw.fr/pdf/P170EM_ESM.pdf

 

Hey thanks a lot I've been waiting a long time for those to go public.