P870KM1-G - CPU Heatsink -WaterBlock?

Maintenance is minimal, probs will need res filling once every few years, I don't mind the maintenance mate, it's more the price, £120 would be hard to beat even doing it yourself I think and it not look completely DIY

 

Just be careful as that block is going to be quite restrictive and could push the pump in an AIO very hard.

 

I'm thinking of leaving it on its slowest setting, last thing I want to do is burn it out. You think that will be enough

 

That might not flow the liquid, depends on exactly how restrictive it is.

 

@cope123abc glad to know that your going this way, I'd like to see my 9900k a bit cooler than 90c when rendering 4k video. On the plus side at least it's not throttling but getting very very close to it lol

 

Thanks bro, I'm gonna order the block this week and then the 280mm ewkb external AIO.

I will do a thorough review first with the 7700k @ 5.0ghz+ on air and then on water to give you a good idea.

I'm a bit OCD with temps and 90 is too hot for me to be happy with long term, I don't want the laptop getting too warm as I generally use it with the screen down attached to a 4k display.

 

Not going to be as easy as i first thought, UK is exempt from Tabao , so will need to use a proxy site (basetao)

 

This is where I had difficulty I had to talk directly to taobao suppliers as agents like super buy and basetao refused to ship motherboards/gpus anything of that sort...

Your best bet is to try communicating directly with the supplier using aliwangwang messenger (strange name I know lol)

 

She's ordered mate ! =)

 

That name is indeed hilarious

 

Took me a while to get my ahead around the name, you should see the process for ordering stuff.

It's almost like hacking the website LOL

you paste URL's from the source website, and load your account up via paypal which relies on you pasting in a transaction ID.

albeit, it's been ordered and should be with me in 2 weeks.

i found out the outlet on the heatsink is an M5, the largest i can find is a m5 x 6MM .

So without sounding like a complete fool, My EKWB AIO has 10mm fittings so i need 2 x 10mm > 6MM reducers and 2 x 5m x 6mm to hook everything up !
6MM Tube is pretty TINY lol so I'm a little pessimistic, taking this 1 for the team!

 

You may end up needing a D5 pump if the water refuses to move.

 

Thankfully - the pump on the AIO is a D5 i am told !

 

I have a MCP655 (which is a D5 by another name) and it is enough for much more restrictive QDCs that are 6mm ID at the fitting, and 3m+ of 10mm vinyl tubing

At speed 2/5 to reduce vibration + noise

 

That's great to know.

I have been told the fitting in the hestsink is a M5, I would appreciate some opinions on connecting up.

I'm thinking of using a M10 x M5 reducer, do you think that would work guys and then run 10mm barbs from the radiator to the heatsink

 

Bargain on EKWB right now paid 95 euro for the 280MM AIO 50% off, everything is ordered now just got to wait and see !

https://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-mlc-phoenix-280-radiator-core-module

 

Ah then it should cope

 

Hopefully, everything is ordered now. None of this is an investment, but I hope the end result will be a water cooled system that will allow for a high boost 9900K + overclocked 1080's at near silent levels.

Will certainly be doing a solid 3 days testing on just the loop to ensure no water leakage prior to hooking up, after that will do a decent write-up.

I'm not sure what temps to expect if the thermal dissipation is good on a delidded + LM + 9900k @ around 5Ghz to be honest, not really done much digging upto now to see.

 

Really it will depend on the chips and the voltage you can set along with the workloads you are running on it.

 

Just following up from a few weeks ago, I've been patiently working on getting the loop all setup for my P870DM2. Can say I'm quite happy with the loop itself.
Went with a EKWB EK-XRES 140 Revo D5 for the Pump / Res combo. Also have about 6ft of tubing from the radiators to the water blocks, so I'll be able to run those over to my desktop without issue.
Apparently external radiator housings are either stupidly hard to find, or stupidly expensive. So I just bought a hardwood cabinet door that matched my flooring and drilled up some L brackets with machine screws to attach the radiators to. Originally I was just going to stick with barbs, but went with hose clamps on top of all the stress points to maximize stability of the connections. Overall I'm VERY happy. My first real DIY loop.

 

WoW that's some serious water cooling potential right there.

Question are you pumping this through a heatsink or will you be mounting those onto the existing heatsinks?

 

You are forcing the pump to fight gravity 4x there, you may want them stacked on their side instead.

 

Hi guys,

The EKWB unit has arrived and puts out some serious noise on full flow!

There is a header on the unit that connects to a PWM controller on a motherboard, the problem is i don't have a motherboard obviously as it's external.

I tried to use to Akasa fan control unit but it wasn't interesting?

What's available that will let me plug in the 4 pin header and manually turn up/down the flow.

edit- i think the controller below will do what i need?

https://noctua.at/en/na-fc1

 

Manual control mode
If the NA-FC1 doesn’t receive an input PWM signal from the motherboard, it works as a simple and efficient manual controller that allows the duty cycle to be set from 0 to 100%. This makes it ideal for manually slowing down high-speed PWM fans such as Noctua’s industrialPPC series in order to achieve consistently quiet operation.

TLDR yes.

 

Yeah this is what sold it to me, be interesting to see if it does work with the pump + fans, i have also bought a flow meter to see the flow rate once its been restricted down etc !

 

You may want to consider power delivery for multiple pumps/fans and split off the pwm signal using a cable. Not sure what it can deliver.

 

Works perfectly.

So i have 2 x Molex (from a DC converter) powering both the Noctua PWM converter and the AIO Cooler, the Noctua is simply acting as a PWM controller as i have tested both and the AIO will not power up without the seperate SATA > Molex connector.

The Noctua PWM is simply connected to the AIO CPU header signal ( the AIO requires mandatory the SATA power + the CPU header (PWM emulation) to control the fan + pump speeds

Thanks for the warning though

 

Shouldn't be long now - just waiting on the block!

 

Nice, glad it's working as intended.

 

Thanks - the item has still not been shipped from the Seller yet, they are taking the biscuit a little now ! 3 weeks almost.

 

Anything physically constructed does always end up being a pain.

 

Arrived at the drop shippers, shouldn;t be long !!

 

https://world.taobao.com/item/561089705878.htm?spm=a21wu.10013406-tw.0.0.55456db26zFq9j

 

Some assembly required let us know how you get on.

 

Will put together a well documented, dedicated thread ! when everything arrives

 

What else are you waiting on?

 

Everything arrived today, I just made the one mistake with one reducer.

should have everything ready to roll next week

Quality seems superb and the weight is also reassuring.

 

I'm curious to know what size that tubing and barb/fitting is that comes on that thing. The step down from standard G1/4 1/2" seems rather extreme. I'd have to imagine the pressure would be pretty high too in this section when connecting to traditional rads.

 

I will document everything fully.I have done the below for now (prep work and not tested)

EKWB G 1/8's on Quick Release > G1/8 QDC adapters down to 10MM Barbs > 8MM PVC (Flow meter - to measure flow) > 10MM > 6MM Reducer > 4mm tubing > M5 male to 6mm barb into heatsinks.

I have tested by blowing water through the heatsink, and the resistance isn't nearly as bad as I expected.I have waited a long time for all of this and there isn't a proper write up from anybody buying this heatsink w/c combo.

The quality seems superb and the weight is VERY heavy.

Hopefully, the cooling efficiency should be good, and it isn't going a BIG distance so the pressure @ the head of the pump should be ok

Water flow rate doesn't really increase thermal efficiency much with water cooling, or at least all the testing I have read using different bores of pipe have shown hardly any temp drop.

 

The restriction will be large but the D5 pump should help with that so long as the loop is not huge.

 

We really appreciate the detail, I'll be doing the same thing as you are in the future (same block etc, just attached to my ridiculous loop). My whole life has gone through a bit of a career/location change, so my projects have been on the back burner for the last month or two.
Hopefully things should speedup in the next few months as I've got about 4 projects to do.

Anyways, I think what I'm going to do is get a 50 Gallon tote and fill it with ice water, then flip my rads upside down and insert the whole panel of them into the fluid.
That should hold me over until winter comes around when I can mix some antifreeze into my solution and leave them outside on the porch. I'll just run 10-20ft of tubing to my machine where the water blocks are.

PLEASE, if you can, take note of what the performance is without water cooling with that block. Obviously it looks designed to operate without fluid, I'm just curious if it's as good as the stock (or better).
Some of the other work that guy has for other machines (even has a smartphone water block) is pretty awesome. Makes me want to start looking into completely integrated water cooling as a standalone package that's attached to the machine.
Highly impractical obviously, but still would be a cool thing to have an actually portable machine that's water cooled. Mounting a radiator or making one out of some copper plates and attaching it to the bottom of the machine, then retrofitting a medical device pump and attach it to the back of the LCD.
Power could be drawn out of the 12v rail that the GPU slave would, or alternatively from the power circuit. The pumps would probably need no more than 10w max in this setup, so even USB is an option if needed.

The cool part is that this area is relatively untouched outside of a few prototypes. I have a D901C system I might try this on before I start playing with the big dogs.

 

Okay, no problem nice to know somebody else is considering this and makes me feel less crazy!

I will probably end up doing the below using AIDA64 Extreme.

Current setup Vs new block on-air only, stress testing and a like for like comparison ( i don't expect the GPU's to cool as well as there is no VC, to be honest).

Current setup Vs new block + water and air on almost silent settings around 30% on fans/pump - with current settings on CPU+GPU, this can be used to reference the first test for improvements.

Current setup Vs new block + water and air on 50% - 100% - with big OC on 7700k 5Ghz+ ( gives us a rough idea of what it MAY cool a 9900k to possibly)

Video of flow rate on low settings + high settings - showing the potential of water flow through the block + restricted pipework.

Should give us a real in-depth look on if this is well worth investment or not for those of us that don't need the portability 100% of the time.

CPU and GPU's will be staying with LM as the thermal paste.

 

I assume it has some quick release fittings? It would be interesting how it performs empty and full.

 

I don't have QDC at the heatsink end, I need to try and find one that's an M5 fitting... I bet I can get one, just need to do some digging as that's the ideal setup... just hookup and disconnect at will.

 

The plumbing for my internal watercooled P370EM using a total DIY custom (a.k.a. ghetto) approach is nearly finished. Just doing some final adjustments. Thread link is in my sig there's a few things you may find interesting, it'll be updated soon. (I've completely redone the blocks so ignore the temperature data)

 

Just had a look - superb work there buddy , massive kudos to you a lot of work gone into that , you can tell ! .

Do you think the below would work as a QDC connector from the HS > Tubing?

https://us.misumi-ec.com/vona2/detail/221000571233/?HissuCode=103C-M5

 

https://www.rapidonline.com/Norgren...4tzH5apYG0JBC4Xw_qmWBkB9iy-_JlIwaAtL0EALw_wcB

https://www.rapidonline.com/norgren...quick-release-plug-hose-barb-6mm-hose-63-3497

I think the above might get me what i need mate, literally a QDC on/off type fitting

 

Otherwise quite a faff and full of water might help when disconnected.

 

Something of that kind, though that is fairly fancy at first glance.

 

Ordered them, see how we get on.

I need both to seal when either is disconnected. Hoping this does exactly what we need !
Yes, they do look quite smart which is exactly what i want to be honest we shall see!!