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    P870TM1 - Upgrade possibility from 1080 to 2080?

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by v8n3t, Sep 17, 2018.

  1. v8n3t

    v8n3t Notebook Consultant

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    Hello,

    I was just curious to see if there will be any support for upgrading the 1080 to the 2080 once it makes its way around to the mobile side.

    Just wondering is all.

    Thanks to all in advance!
     
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    Since nothing has been officially seen yet on what might happen with cards it's too early for this kind of discussion.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Sep 17, 2018
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    More than likely, Clevo will likely try changing the chassis as little as possible for 9900K and 2080 as its cheaper than a redesign.
     
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    Take a look at this thread:

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...ix-gets-an-8700k-and-gtx-1080-upgrade.814711/

    Specifically, consider this:

    "The front frame has to be trimmed due to the massive Clevo GTX 1080 form factor. One of the stand-offs for the retainer screws has to be removed from the metal bracket. A stand-off underneath the GPU (attached to the palm rest) has to be chopped off so the GPU can lay flat in the chassis."

    "Custom Heat Sink"
    [​IMG]

    These are just examples of mods you could make to upgrade from older models (DM3 in this case). These mods are not available out of the box nor with necessary BIOS updates.

    If the 2080 specs match up closely with those of the 1080, including thermal load, plug and play may work. With DTRs, we need to keep in mind they aren't as upgradeable as desktops.
     
    GrandesBollas, Sep 17, 2018
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    this is a perfect thread to use my crystal ball for :)
     
    jaybee83, Sep 17, 2018
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    What does your crystal ball say? ;)
     
    yrekabakery, Sep 18, 2018
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    considering how the MXM form factor is being made nowadays I'd not use the term "more than likely", manufacturers are clearly making it harder and harder to upgrade. Look at the crap mr.fox had to go through to get clevo GTX 1080 working on his P870DM.
     
    Danishblunt, Sep 18, 2018
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    I'm very skeptical with regard to the power and cooling required for a 9900K + 2800RTX combo if the chassis remains the same.
     
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    from a technical standpoint its not a big deal, considering the 1080 sli machines, thats a total of 180+180+95 w tdp with the cpu = 455 w nominal tdp. surely doable with one rtx2080 and a 9900k.

    Sent from my Xiaomi Mi Max 2 (Oxygen) using Tapatalk
     
    jaybee83, Sep 18, 2018
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    Unless they change the form factor again the 2080 should be compatible, but who knows what they will do for sure. It depends on the cost of designing a new motherboard/cooling against how much they would make from selling new machines.
     
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    Exacly, guess what they probably will do ._.
     
    Danishblunt, Sep 18, 2018
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    A lot of it will depend on the recommended memory layout from Nvidia as to the physical layout.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Sep 18, 2018
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    Hi All here is a Picture it is my RTX2080 with Standart Headpipe from 1070\1080 with modification to RTX.
    There are 2 points that have to modification 20190403_223801.jpg 20190403_223801.jpg
     

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    or the Dual Headpipe modification for RTX.
    so plan for the cpu core . milling so straight.

    and build up copper for the ram building blocks ! important !
     

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    and...
     

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    and .. :) with liquid metal, but you must work with adpter for cpu core !!
     

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    The Core Adapter is a copper plate with 0,30 mm (core-adapter.jpg)

    and here is a Picture from working Headpipe and beautiful Temp.

    and for best Performance with i9 9900k is the special CPU Headpipe
     

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    or another verion is in planning
     

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    But Please The Headgun not make a Temp over 300 Degress !!!
    This Deastroyd the Headpipe !! it is better to slow HEAT, TO FAST IS BAD ;-)
     
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    And Yes The RTX 2080 From Clevo Work in a P870DM-G and P870KM/1 But only With Correct Vbios Bios !!
    self tested and works :)
     
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    impressive work, kudos! :) and i see your 2080 goes up to 203 watts, nice ;)

    Sent from my Xiaomi Mi Max 2 (Oxygen) using Tapatalk
     
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    This really impressive, great job and well done.
     
    Dr. AMK, Apr 27, 2019
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    nice work, im looking forward to getting a i9-9900k but i wait till next gen rtx cards, i feel like there's much potential in my 1080
     
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    Was there any VBIOS issues that you needed to do, or did it work with inserting the MXM GPU in and applying your hardware mod, no software changes needed?
     
    MrClippy, Aug 7, 2019
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