P955ER throttling

Well, I have no G-SYNC.

 

Oh... you got optimus, Whoops.

Did you try and launch afterburner after the game has loaded?

 

Update: AC:Origins wants no overlays.

Not even GeForce Experience, Steam's overlay, etc.

Will try another capture method.

 

Maybe ask this guy how he did it.


EDIT:
Well he is using HWinfo with rivatuner as overlay, maybe you can try out the same?

 

Will do.

Retrying.

 

I got me the game and am now downloading ~60GB. I'll try and see if I encounter the same issue and will see how to fix this, I'll keep you up2date

 

What's your laptop ?

 

Nice.

hwinfo makes the game lock up and crash even before launch. Damn.

 

Welp... on my MSI no problems at all.


Played for around 20 minutes. Never crashed ._.

I assume this is an optimus issue then? My notebook doesnt have optimus but yours have, that's my theory atm.

@ ahmad hendeh
Testing on my good ol MSI GT 72 with GTX 980M and 6700HQ. Hence 66c max on GPU and ~55-60 on CPU after 20min of gameplay, I don't like thin and light furnacebooks.

This is maxed out btw, everything ultra, FPS go from 45 - 75. So defintely not a maxed out settings game on my old 980M.

 

Yes, this is an Optimus laptop.

 

Can you maybe try out and see if you can put rivatuner and everything on the NVIDIA graphics? If that doesn't work then I guess Assassins Creed Origins + Optimus + Overlay isn't happening.

Also maybe another NVIDIA driver or so?? I mean something has to work ._.

 

@Dennismungai could you add CPU Package Power to OSD? I'm not sure if there's power monitor available for GPU.

 

All my videos already have it enabled.

 

Perhaps via hwinfo.

 

@ahmad hendeh

So dennis used OBS to do streaming on his notebook.

 

Lul. The FPS and frame time in that OSD is such a lie.

 

No they arent, the game likely has been, "playable". The stream / recording however suffers a lot. His frametime jumped insanely and FPS went down to 40s while he should have had 70s or 80s.

Meanwhile crappy 6700HQ

 

Ah right, it's the stream that drops frames, not the game.

 

Well no, the stream effictely halved his FPS with bad frametimes, meaning game was far from fluid, even on moments where he had 60fps.

 

The game was still running at 40+ FPS according to the OSD, but the video itself looks like 5 FPS.

 

There are a lot of factors that could impact recording like that.

 

That's why frametimes are so important. If you have crappy frametimes even 60FPS can appear laggy. The reason why the OBS recording was extremely laggy and the game only laggy is because the CPU prioritizes the game over the recording.

 

Clocks and loads were pretty consistent which suggests something else going on with such a drastic difference.

 

Are you trying to redefine the word "consistent"? 2.2ghz - 3.9ghz clock fluctuation is not consistent, unless we talk consistently unstable.

 

Looking at the loading levels then it's not flat out 100% loaded and at low clocks which suggests it's not required, then in those sections where the high clock speeds are maintained there is no difference in the stream (Where all 12 threads are above the 6700HQ you posted 3.1Ghz). This suggests something is up with the settings.

 

Stop bsing. Clockspeeds are fluctuating because of the EC choking the CPU. If you had followed the thread you would know that on low loads the CPU (0-10%usage) the CPU is consistently on 3.9ghz.

 

You did not answer my main point however, how come in those sections with higher core speeds the recording did not improve, or is a 6700hq 3.1Ghz faster than an 8700hq at 3.5Ghz?

Looks like the system is power balancing yes, not too surprising considering the TDP limits in place.

Note that for the same compute the 6 core at 2.2Ghz should outpace a 4 core at 3.1Ghz in a multithreaded work load like a game + streaming.

 

Because the CPU is unstable. Don't forget the overlay only updates every second or so. The CPU is probably clocking from 2.2ghz - 3.9ghz while every second is doing an average, due to the unstable CPU and graphicscard there will be some desync going on which makes the CPU and GPU have to wait. Also the CPU focuses more on the game right now rather than the OBS stream, hence on higher clocks the FPS improve a little bit.

 

Again, everything above 2.2Ghz is gravy compared to the 6700hq (in terms of leaving resources for streaming), we should see similar results in worst case and better results for clocking above, even if it was better FPS with worse frame times for instance, instead the video is way down all the time.

 

For one, I kept getting the message: "Encoding overloaded!" on the taskbar.

Reading this article points to perhaps reducing encoder threads or dropping to a faster preset may help to eliminate that.

I'm no livestreaming master (and barely, if at all use OBS), so perhaps with better tuning I may get somewhat better results.

 

Apples for apples needs those settings to be consistent. Something Danish has not double checked.

 

Also, can the x264's thread count be changed in OBS?

I could try raising OBS's priority (under settings).

 

Or maybe you haven't double checked. I send him a msg with my OBS settings asking him to record.

Go on.

 

So Danish,

What are your settings? Apples for apples.

 

You have my settings, those which you used.

Thats why I bothered to send you the settings.
Maybe try to record setting OBS with high priority. I donn't do that myself but would be itneresting to see what the CPU does to witcher when it has to focus on OBS instead.

 

To Quote Danish:

On OBS do these settings:
Output:
7.000 video bitrate
Encoder software X264
Tick advanced settings on
put encoder present on fast

No other settings were touched, save for save location.

 

Will do.

 

Jep, stream only allows 6k bitrate tho, but I record locally 7k birate so i have it on 7k.

As said previously, try record with higher priority and see what it does to witcher 3.

 

Will do.

And for parity, I'll use the thread count option (threads=8) for x264 to match your 6700HQ.

One pass with that option enabled, the other without.

 

I don't really use that option but you can tinker with it. Maybe your next goal should be trying to fix, you have done the apples to apples comparison already so why not see if you can fix it and potentially help other people with the same issues.

 

@Dennismungai use ThrottleStop to force CPU to max freq. Just set Speed Shift - EPP to 255.

 

Raising the priority (and attempting to lower thread count for the x264 encoder) only results in a marginal improvement using the fast preset.

 

Here is review from Europe of our Q6 model: https://digitalportal.sk/recenzia-eurocom-max-q6/
We are shipping Q6 with 180W AC adapter (or 200W) and this helps to reduce throttling.

 

Well it did something at least. I guess you can try and set preset to something lower than fast, It will make your video quality worse but lets see when it's a thing.

 

Mine was essentially a pre-order (and if I had known, might've skipped on it), so what happens to these who got their units with the 150W PSU? A simple courtesy of a steep discount on a replacement PSU would be welcome, for one.

 

You also modded the EC so it detects the 180W PSU??
Also that review goes so much in depth into the SSD's and not thermals nor benchmarks in gaming which is downright disapointing.

Only benchmark we got is a underperforming GPU in 3dmark for some reason.


14k flat is rather low.

https://www.3dmark.com/fs/15401306

Stock aero for contrast. Beats the clevo by quite a bit...

 

What I have is the 150W PSU. Not the 180W.

So what happens to these that 'pre-ordered' the unit? Paying full price for the recommended 180W-200+W PSU (which Eurocom now knows is the cause of the performance deficit) is a slap in the face.

 

The EC doesn't adjust the throttling to a higher power adapter. The 150W system power draw limit will remain there.

You need to update the bios to allow draw up to 180W/200W.

kudos for being the first company to acctualy do something about it.

 

I've sent them an email to that effect.

Waiting for their response.

 

Nothing really, the EC doesn't detect the 180W PSU and will keep only using 150W. unless Eurocom has a custom EC that fixes this.

Of all the thin and lights so far this would be my personal ranking:
1.) Aero 15x (only concern is gigabyte support, machine is top of the bunch)
1.) GS 65 (better support for the machine, itself it's inferior to the aero imo, not by much)
3.) Clevo (throttling, way to castrated, however at least it doesn't break)
4.) Razer Blade (best perfomer, to bad Razer still didnt figure out how to design a notebook that doesn't fry itself )