PREMA BIOS MOD Review

Yeah, Win8 is running great, power consumption is surprisingly higher for me but USB3 is totally screwed. Only USB2 mode is working.....><

 

Hello NBR,

I've read through every post now and I just got my laptop from Derek @xoticpc. First thing I did was flash the prema bios, the ME, then installed corresponding ME drivers. I update nVidia drivers and then installed batterbar. I also disabled hyperthreading as someone suggested.

I'm getting a draw of about 13-15mW and I was wondering if that's kind of high?

Do you guy have any suggestions?

 

depends on activity and equipment

 

I have

- Display: 11.6" HD "Glare Type" Super Clear Bright Glossy Screen (1366x768) (SKU – S1R204)
- Dead Pixel Warranty: Standard Dead Pixel Policy
- Monitor Calibration: NO Professional Monitor Color Calibration
- Processor: Sager - 3rd Generation Intel® Ivy Bridge Core™ i7-3630QM (2.4GHz - 3.4GHz, 6MB Intel® Smart Cache, 45W Max TDP) (SKU - S2N224)
- Thermal Compound: IC Diamond Thermal Compound - CPU + GPU (Cools better than all Compounds)
- Graphics Video Card: nVidia GT 650M 2048MB PCI-Express GDDR3 DX11 with Optimus™ Technology (SKU – S3R523)
- Copper Cooling Upgrade: No Copper Cooling Upgrade
- External Display Video Adapters: No Video Adapter
- External Mobile Display: No External Mobile Display
- Ram: 8GB - DDR3 1600MHz Dual Channel Memory (2 SODIMMS) (SKU - S4S422P)
- Branding: Sager Branding
- Exterior Finish: Standard Finish
- Primary Hard Drive: 256gb Crucial M4 Series Solid State Drive (SSD2 Serial-ATA III) (SKU – S5R062)
- External Hard Drive (Back Up): No Back Up Hard Drive
- External USB Optical Drive: NO External USB Optical Drive
- Memory Card Reader: Internal 9-in-1 Card Reader (MMC/RSMMC/SD/Mini SD/SDHC/SDXC/MS/MS Pro/MS Duo)
- Back Up Software: No Back Up Software
- Bluetooth: Bluetooth Included *With select wireless cards only* (See “Wireless Network” Section Below)
- Wireless Network: Sager - Bigfoot Networks Killer™ Wireless-N 1202 + Bluetooth 4.0 (Dual Band) (SKU – S8R008)
- Wireless Network Accessories: No Network Accessory
- Camera: Built in 1.3Megapixel Camera
- TV Tuner: No TV Tuner
- Sound Card: Sound Blaster Compatible 3D Audio - Included
- Case: No Carrying Case
- Battery: Smart Li-ion Battery (6-Cell)
- Car Adapter: No Car Adapter
- Spare AC Adapter: Sager 90W AC Adapter with Intel 2nd Gen. i5-2450 / Sager 120W AC Adapter with Intel 3rd Gen. i7-3610
- Port Replicator / Dock / Adapters: No Dock/Hub/Adapter
- Crucial 256GB SSD

Everything is running at minimum (WiFi off, minimum brightnes). Even with hyperthreading disabled in idle I get around 12mW draw.

 

If this is seen through batterybar, it seems a bit high.
Mine is currently on performance, browsing @max brightness and playing a video, between 13 & 15W reported.
With min brightness on power saving, between 9 & 10W.
That is still with stock bios, but with an i5 2410.

 

Do you have anything in the card reader as that pulls a small fraction of a watt when something is inserted.

Have you turned off the camera and microphone?

What type of ram is that exactly? Both myself and HTwingnut are running low power ram that runs at 1.35V or less for lower power consumption. In my case that is what Mythlogic installs as its default ram.

You need to monitor the CPU with throttle stop to see if it is going to deep c-states to save power properly at idle. If it isn't there are rogue processes that are using 1 or 2% cpu that are keeping the cores from idleing to save power. You need to ID them and either turn them off or confine them all to one core so that the others can idle.

 

From what I have seen also the combination of iGPU & dGPU driver play a big role in power consumption.
Like when I updated to the latest HD4000 drivers a few days back, suddenly the power consumption went up from 9W to 12-15W.

 

Prema Mod v1.0 for the W350ETx/NP6350 & W370ET/NP6370 is now available on the blog.

ENJOY!

Spoiler

THX @ Kreeeee

 

Wow thanks!
Is it already possible to circumvent the blocking of cpu turbo boost, while using the nvidia graphics card via optimus?

 

Throttlestop is still your best bet to run the CPU in Turbo during dGPU use.

 

Hi Prema,
again I am just here to say thank you. I am at University now and my W110 actually runs up to 6 hours running Office in Power Saving mode. Your Mods and ME-updates really made this little gaming machine way more productive.

 

Wow that's a big big improvement

 

Hi,
I have just recived my w110er from Scan and as all good geeks have set about overclocking it :thumbsup:
After hitting my limit using the stock bios and graphics clocks of 1100 gpu/1000 vram i was slightly disheartened so flashed PREMA v1.4 & INTEL ME 8.1.10.1286 on and am now happy to say she is upto a fairly tasty 1255 GPU & 1050vram stable @ 2890 3dmark 11
At this point i will say Err Nice work PREMA your rom should come as standard on all these Laptops!!!

Now most would be happy with that but i can't help be feel that i have just hit a voltage limit and not a chip one and as 3k is so close was wondering if it was possible to modify the rom to give a little bit more overhead ?

Just a thought but would be fairly epic to pass that line.

Cheers

 

You asked for it, make good use of FN+1 and don't blame me if you fry anything.


W110ER/NP6110 Prema Mod v1.4 OV EDITION added

Changelog:

- GT650M overvolted (950Mhz+ @ 1.15v)
- 60c voltage throttle removed

(credit: Saltius & SVL7)


HAPPY BENCHING!

 

thanks a lot prema Try this one tomorrow i think.

Do you tell me what 60c means ? I have understood that the power supply give 1.1v (or a little less) under 60° , and a bite more than 1.0v after 60° , but i'm not sure. Can you help me ?

You've benched with 1.15v ? little more ? at what time do you considered that the gpu temp is too hight ? 100°C approximalty for me , and you ?

 

The regular BIOS reduces the voltage when the gpu reaches 60c. Which is utter nonsense as the fan only spins higher above that temperature.
When the voltage is reduced a high OC crashes.
The OV BIOS doesn't reduce the voltage at 60c and bumps the voltage from 1.1v to 1.15v only on 950Mhz+ (Turbo Boost)

On my highest OC my gpu temps never exceeded 75c...but in general temps above 90c should be avoided over a longer period.

ENJOY EVERYONE!

 

Man, I assume this is with a laptop cooler ? Is your CPU also really cool ?
I found that the laptop initially throttles the gpu once it reaches +90c, so I would say one wants to stay below that line..

 

My GPU rarely exceeds 75C using the UV mod at least, and even with the OV mod it usually stays under 85C, typically around 80C. No cooler, just prop up the back end.

 

Prema mod 1.4v OV for W150ER ?

 

Wow that was a quick turn aound :thumbsup:

so think it is only right i post my results from testing equaly as fast

Well SIR your OV bios has got me past the previous clock lock by a fair bit:

OEM bios STD Clocks:
GPU: 835
VRAM: 900
3Dmark: 2300


OEM bios:
GPU: 1100
VRAM: 1000
3Dmark: 2550

PREMA 1.4 STD
GPU: 1255
VRAM: 1050
3Dmark: 2890


PREMA 1.4 OV
GPU: 1315
VRAM: 1050
3Dmark: 3030

Note No screen ripping or Artifacts at this stage so there may be more to come but i need to rebuild on to a SSD before i push higher.


So in total 730 points on 3Dmark with no cooler mods and an ambiant temp of 20C
Or Roughly a 40% increase for nothing bar a donation "coming your way"

You definatly put the P In Epic with this Mod

cheers

J

 

Do you have a changelog for the new BIOS they are pushing out for the W110ER that you say will have better Windows 8 Support? I am just curious if there are any USB 3 related fixes in this iteration? Or if you could show us where this new BIOS is available for download?

 

for usb3 on win8 you need to install the drivers using unsigned method

 

+1

For me i bought the W110ER with I3 , no o/c : 2050 in 3DMark11
Now with 3840QM and 1.4 Ov bios : 3132 in 3DMARK11

rockStable in game with 1320mhz on core and 1100 mhz on memory ( approx 3100 on 3Dmark11) , more than a GTX670M , and 50% more FPS than the GT650m a stock clock : amazing for a 11,6" inch. Some games were not playable with the stock frequency , now approx 30FPS !

Temps during powersupply stress test of occt ( harder than furmark+ prime) : cpu : 90°C ; gpu : 88°C after an hour. Fan is not to the maximum at that temps.

 

Damn, that's a solid improvement!

I've yet to get 3D Mark11 to run (functionally) on Win8, so hopefully I get everything figured out soon, including my OC's.

 

Win8 gave me a lower score than Win 7 , have to be checked with the new nvidia drivers (310.**) In game , it's the same things (+/- 10% lower than win7)

 

I can't believe we're still on beta drivers +6months after release !

 

Could you elaborate on this, please? You can't force the Windows 7 USB 3 drivers in Windows 8 in anyway..

 

execute : bcdedit /set nointegritychecks ON
reboot
install the driver
execute : bcdedit /set nointegritychecks OFF
reboot

OR

Sign the driver with DSEO as a test driver by going on the "Disable Driver Signature Enforcement" mode of win8.

It works

 

So just as I thought, still have the same issue. It's not a driving signing issue. The error states "The Folder you specified doesn't contain a compatible software driver for your device. If the folder contains a driver, make sure it is designed to work with Windows for x64" This same driver works perfectly on my other W110ER with Windows 7 Pro x64. Thanks for the thought though..

 

With this one ? Serv-U - Error Occurred

 

ok so that one installs (the manual way) but the speed of my USB 3 devices are still stuck at 31-32MB/s.

 

Compare the speed with a USB 2.0 port with the same transfer. if this is the same speed , so try a windows update.

IF it doesn't work , ttry this : http://downloadcenter.intel.com/con..._Controller_Driver.zip&lang=eng&Dwnldid=21129

 

Hi there Prema, wow ur 1.4 bios mod looks great. are there plans to release it for my w150er as well perhaps>? would be amazing 50% more fps then stock on a gt650 :O great

 

Use the 306.97 Drivers as the 310 Beta lock the clocks down, these work perfectly in Windows 8 x64 and allow me to play BF3 on stock clock on high or OC'ed 100 % smooth on ultra

I have a:
i7-3632QM "35W"
so i am happy with the score and the power usage it is also within the manufacturing spec

with the new vertex 4 i put in last night i now have boot to use sub 10 seconds so am very happy to say the least

Odd question Any one know the ppl generator on these ?

J

 

You mean the PLL generator? its integrated in to the CPU so no software known to date can touch it. If you're planning on overclocking the CPU then you're out of luck, ivy and sandy don't like being baseclock OCed (you'd be lucky to get an extra 4-5mhz on desktops with full BIOS support). As far as I know, only the i7-3820/3840 with the partial multiplier unlock and the XM chips are overclockable and thats only with BIOS support. Maybe Prema can chime in on this one.

 

If you could run some benchmarks on it I'd be grateful, want to see how fast it can go. Also +rep.

 

Prema, thanks for the great bios, a lot.

Would it be possible to modify the fan table though? My system runs quite low, temp wise: the GPU barely breaks 50C under load and yet the fan roars along. Playing the same game with the HD4000 results in near silent operation: the GPU seems to be the culprit. I'm running a 3632QM CPU and plan on using the 660M for GPGPU, but I don't want it roaring away in the library. I guess this would require an ACPI table modification?

 

Would agree the fan table needs sorting as it is just flat out retarded but i think that Prema said it was some thing inside the bios that he could not changed and the Clevo would have to? in fact that is my only gripe with the unit at the moment.
It sits with no fan at all till it gets fairly hot then jumps up to like 40% for a few moments to cool it then off again and the repeats, i cant see the point of that type of configuration at all.

 

All new Prema Mod 2.0 will be based on the new Win8 BIOS is going to have Clevos new fan tables for all models...NO ETA, but I am on it for you guys...have some real life stuff that requires my attention...

 

Hello Prema!, that is great news man! and im not in a hurry here at all! some things in life are way more important then computers ofc.

 

Fan tables... drool. THANK YOU!

 

cool stuff indeed those prema mods. i just donated him 10 euro hehe not much i know but better that then nothing keep it up Prema

 

Clevo updated them not me...

Thank you ALL, no matter how big or small, it shows me that you guys are happy and that keeps me going...Clevo is trying to drive me nuts with all the updates...it's suppose to be a hobby and not a full time jobe after all...LOL

 

You show me the ropes, I'll be more than willing to give you several (see: 5+) hours a day. I wouldn't mind a free hobby. everything I've came across on websites has been outdated and what does work seems near impossible to understand... I'd think interpreting assembly is easier.

 

You fully deserve it. And your UV mod is worth every penny (not that it cost me that many pennies...).

 

Just took a look at the site stats, the delayed release of the W3x0ET version came too late for October... but it's only the 11th and we got a head start start for November :thumbsup:


PremaMod Worldwide Coverage (That's You Guys) :

 

I may have contributed to a good portion of the Australia visits

 

Updated Intel Management Engine Driver v8.1.10.1286 now on the blog

This is to match driver with current ME firmware.

EDIT: nvm

 

Thanx Prema i downloaded it and will install it .nice map of blog users by the way im from holland, i see there are more ppl from here using ur mod ( or it was just me obsessivly checking ur blog to see if there was a new version lol)


hehe just saw the NVM what was that for? the previous driver was the same?

 

Does the new ME firmware impact noticeably the power consumption or it is more Nvidia drivers dependant ?