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    PREMA BIOS MOD Review

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by HTWingNut, Jun 1, 2012.

  1. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    I did record those, will post later. CPU temps were actually quite a bit higher, but GPU wasn't too much.
     
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    dieTasse Notebook Enthusiast

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    Sice the developer of this BIOS is active in this thread, can you answer me 2 questions about my future config?
    1. Can I enable VT-d and VT-x in the stock BIOS?
    2. Is my future config supported (Clevo P170SM-A, 16GB 1600Mhz, i7-4810MQ, Nvidia GTX 870m, WD Blue 1TB, Crucial M500 240GB)?

    I found things about the P170SM-A, but I want to be sure, because if i can enable the virtualisation technologies in stock bios that's everything I'll ever need...

    Thanks guys!
     
  4. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    1. The options are not there.
    2. The system bios on these machines is consistent across all configurations.
     
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    depakjan Notebook Enthusiast

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    Do these great benchmarks really translate In terms of gaming as well? .. I am really debating between a 860m and 870m .. can you post some gaming benchmarks with these new OC settIngs
    thanks In advance HTWingNut
     
  6. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    He posted it in the OP. ;)
     
  7. HTWingNut

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    Yeah, maybe I need to start a new thread for this new gen of BIOS.
     
  8. depakjan

    depakjan Notebook Enthusiast

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    that would be great ...from what you already posted Oced 860m fps = 870m ... In that case do you think a 870m can be also OCed at this same level ... Is 860m overclocking well only because It Is maxwell ? .. If OCed 870m can equal 880m ... then getting a 870m compared to 860m Is still worth It ... hope someone can post 870m oc benchmarks as well...
     
  9. Sebi97

    Sebi97 Notebook Evangelist

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    I would REALLY like this mod for the Gigabyte P34G v2 also with the maxwell gtx 860m. Any news on that?
     
  10. Ethrem

    Ethrem Notebook Prophet

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    870m is an 880m with lower clocks and 1 less SMX. It does overclock well from what I've seen but clock for clock will still be slower than the 880m with all 8 SMX and also has a 192-bit bus as opposed to a 256-bit bus.

    Its the same core so in a perfect world, you would be able to achieve 880m clocks. Its only around 20% slower than an 880m at stock anyway.
     
  11. n=1

    n=1 YEAH SCIENCE!

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    That 870M is basically a 192-bit 680M with higher core and mem clocks. At stock it's about 15% faster than a 680M.
     
  12. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Pretty much, turbo boost is there, the 192bit means 8 ROPs are also missing. Stock there is that nice boost. Tweaked the 680m will take the lead.
     
  13. anielkumar

    anielkumar Newbie

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    Hi Prema,:hi2:

    I just wanted Know , Whether PREMA BIOS MOD will be Release for New Dell Alienware 17 (BIOS Ver 10) with GTX880m 8 GB DDR5 or NOT ? OC version of GTX880m 8 GB has been released But That Vbios is causing Problem with My Screen 120Hz WLED FHD (1920 x 1080) TrueLife 400 Nit Display w/3D. So I need modified GTX880m VBIOS .

    I am ready to Pay Donation if PREMA BIOS MOD will release for OC version of GTX880m 8 GB in coming future .

    Thanks In Advance :confused:
     
  14. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    All you need is to use another vBIOS base.

    Ask svl7 at techinferno if he can make one and use the latest base. It's his brainchild, I won't touch it. :)
     
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    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Svl7 will 7 sally do it for some beer money when it's personal use ;)
     
  16. sa7ina

    sa7ina Notebook Consultant

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    Copy paste from this thread in case you missed it.

    Prema!
    10X alot!
    you are the king!

    flashed your bios today and i am very happy with it...unlocked a lot of useful options.
    also got immediate improvements in speed without changing anything else!

    some benchmarks:
    3DMARK VANTAGE
    44378 - Stock
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 880M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-4960X,Notebook P570WM
    46538 - Prema BIOS
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 880M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-4960X,Notebook P570WM

    3DMARK 2011
    14803 - Stock
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 880M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-4960X,Notebook P570WM
    15111 - Prema BIOS
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 880M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-4960X,Notebook P570WM

    ICE STORM
    159100 - Stock
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 880M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-4960X,Notebook P570WM
    168893 - Prema BIOS
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 880M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-4960X,Notebook P570WM

    CLOUD GATE
    28606 - Stock
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 880M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-4960X,Notebook P570WM
    30232 - Prema BIOS
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 880M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-4960X,Notebook P570WM

    SKY DIVER
    28386 - Stock
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 880M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-4960X,Notebook P570WM
    29317 - Prema BIOS
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 880M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-4960X,Notebook P570WM

    FIRE STRIKE
    9665 - Stock
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 880M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-4960X,Notebook P570WM
    9806 - Prema BIOS
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 880M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-4960X,Notebook P570WM

    CATZILLA
    22588 - Stock
    Catzilla Computer Benchmark - Your Online Result
    24218 - Prema BIOS
    Catzilla Computer Benchmark - Your Online Result

    Unigen Haven 4 - X
    1956 - Stock
    2011 - Prema BIOS

    Unigen Vally - X HD
    2892 - Stock
    2929 - Prema BIOS

    donated in Bitcoin the last 24 hour mining from my X2 - 280X rig.
    Transaction ID: 1c3e1715eb07791eefc5ddc3c5b8fbd102dc83c05c3aae15bad696f2c86d6871-000‏
    it is not much but that what i have.

    also have some DRK & LTC cents i would like to send if you have wallet addresses.

    10X again for the hard work.

    edit: sent another 24 hour mining in Bitcoin your way dear Prema....just to make me feel better.
    Transaction ID: d39a52573a8069f67491843fd9bc621694d84ad5789c257abad3ed0ca1abe93d-000

    love you!
     
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  17. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    @ALL Prema Mod v1 for P37 5SM-A is now on the blog (link in my signature)

    ENJOY! :)
     
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    deadsmiley Notebook Deity

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    Prema, what is the difference between what is provided via your regular download and a Mythlogic system? If that is something you cannot answer I understand. :)
     
  19. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    If you purchase a system from any of the "Prema Mod Partner Shops" you get a special version covered by warranty, you receive updates earlier and those versions contain extra tweaks as per their request.
    Oh and of course they have their own logos and other cosmetic customization.
     
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    Ethrem Notebook Prophet

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    Good to know. Less worrying about whether or not Sager or your reseller will care when they see a Clevo BIOS on the machine when its sent for RMA instead of the Sager BIOS it came with.
     
  21. Spyrus

    Spyrus Notebook Enthusiast

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    Can we have some screenshots from modded bios? I am interesting in Clevo W355SS and specially memory settings.
     
  22. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    It can take some time to log everything but everything that can be unlocked will be.
     
  23. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    Speed, Timings, it's all there...
     
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    Spyrus Notebook Enthusiast

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    I watched the video ... so i am ok with the settings provided ... good work .

    Which overclock settings will hang the system? Need to take out cmos cable or a key combination
    on reset is enough?
     
  25. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    If something doesn't work it resets on its own. In case it doesn't taking out one RAM is enough to reset it. If that doesn't work take the AC Power, battery & CMOS battery out for 30s.

    @ALL

    P15xSM-A, P17xSM-A & W230SS updated with new ECs.

    ENJOY! :)
     
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    rothomson Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hey Prema, hows it going? Getting a new laptop tomorrow, a p370sm-a, got the V1 bios downloaded :D
    Do you have a list of the changed from the stock bios?

    Also wondering if you do a modded bios for the GTX 880 that ill have in this machine? and what kind of differences does it make if it exists?

    Cheers :) love your work and will drop you something via paypal in the next couple of days :)
     
  27. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Prema leaves the vbios modding to the guys at tech inferno who have that covered.
     
  28. Alexeja

    Alexeja Notebook Enthusiast

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    Intermittent beeps without dedicated graphics allow to conclude that in the bios
    something is absent, or locked? Or runs the P150EM only with a 2nd graphics card?
    I removed the ati card to circumvent the crappy enduro & ati drivers. The built in
    Intel gpu runs on 192bit bus, wide enough for the most applications. But no way
    to work on a longer time with it, just a beeping notebook. As it finished with
    loading the os, it straight shut down.

    Any constructive input is appreciated.

    Anyone has an adapted vga bios for a dell gtx680m 2GB card for the p150em?
     
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    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    The EC shuts down the notebook if no temperature sensor data comes from the MXM slot.

    The intel IGP uses the system memory bus (128bit DDR3) and is much slower than any decent dedicated GPU.

    There are a few rare exceptions but because of the aforementioned temperature feedback requirement (done differently to most other brands) you have to use a sager/clevo card to boot properly.
     
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    Ethrem Notebook Prophet

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    I was wondering why it shut off when the graphics cards were nonfunctional, thanks for that.

    Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Tapatalk
     
  31. JackBurton

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    can i change my bios with it? i have a msi ge60 apache pro gtx860m 2gb maxwell and i7 4700hq.

    tnx
     
  32. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    No, these bios files are not for MSI systems.
     
  33. JackBurton

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    there is a prema modded bios for my msi ge 60 notebook?

    tnx
     
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    Ethrem Notebook Prophet

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    tnx but in the thread description tehre s not my graphic card but the old gtx660m.it work fine with the new ge60 gtx860m?

    tnx
     
  36. Ethrem

    Ethrem Notebook Prophet

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    Obviously not. Leave a message for Prema in the thread and see what he says.

    Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Tapatalk
     
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    Hi,

    are you still searching for a beta tester for the w740su?
    I own one of these.....
     
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    Hi all.

    Sorry if I my posting in here is not appropriate but I know no where else to post on this and I have searched extensively.

    Does anyone know how I can get hold of the p370em Stock Bios 1.00.01 & EC 1.00.03 ?

    And, btw, does anyone know if Clevo is gone for good, trying to go to their site I get redirected to Eurocom !?
     
  39. Spyrus

    Spyrus Notebook Enthusiast

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    Clevo redirection is happening from time to time... it is weird!
    Stock bioses are also at the site of Perma bioses
     
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    SmiffyF Newbie

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    Thanks for the reply and info supplied.

    Have checked Prema's out but unfortunately what I need is not listed at all.

    I am specifically looking for Bios 1.00.01 & EC 1.00.03 for the Clevo P370EM, this was stock release in 2012

    There does not seem to be an owners lounge for the Clevo P370EM, even the Clevo Bios thread does not seem to cater for it.

    Is this an oversight and would it be alright posting in *Official Sager NP9380, NP9390 / Clevo P370SM, P370SM3, P375SM Owner's Lounge**
     
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    Ethrem Notebook Prophet

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    Is there a specific reason you want that bios? I see a stock 08 with 09 EC on Prema's site. It's generally better to use a newer bios.

    http://biosmods.wordpress.com/stock/

    Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Tapatalk
     
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    Hi Ethrem, and thanks for the link supplied.

    Yes, the reason is Bios/EC compatibility, corrupt Bios.
     
  43. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    If you downgrade to such an old version there is a high chance of bricking the system.
    If the system is already bricked then a stock BIOS update can not be used to re-program the chip manually, it needs to be a dump from a running system.

    If you are confident of what you are doing then drop me PM and I'll see if I can find and send you those files.
     
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    Sly1234 Newbie

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    I have a problem with my xmg p304 (4710qm / W230ss).

    If i disable Hyperthreading in Bios the system won't boot.
    It's quite important for me to have Hyperthreading disabled.

    Does anyone else has this behaviour? Any solutions?
    Apart from that the system runs perfectly.
     
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    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    What bios version are you on?
     
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    Sly1234 Newbie

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    I installed the whole package of "W230SS Prema Mod v1.1 (For FHD screen)".
    The customer Bios version should be "XMG P304 BIOS 1.03.06".(Release 2014/05/06).
     
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    Try holding the power button down. When I did this on my W230ss, if I held down the button, the lights would come on (still holding button), then they would go off again (still holding button..), and then on again after a couple seconds (finally let go). Then it would boot with HT off.

    Restarting works normally, but everytime completely powered off, you have to hold down the button for a while.
     
  48. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    For certain feature changes in BIOS (dGPU, ASPM, HT...) we need to remove the PSU (AC Power) once in off-state in order for the change to take effect on the next boot. ;)

    Just updated the P15xSM-A and P17xSM-A with new ECs. (link in my signature)

    ENJOY! :)
     
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    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    Prema Mod for P370SM-A, P375SM-A & P377SM-A updated with new ECs.

    ENJOY! :)
     
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    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    Prema Mod for W350SS & W370SS updated with new ECs.

    ENJOY! :)
     
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