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    PREMA BIOS MOD Review

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by HTWingNut, Jun 1, 2012.

  1. lastnikita

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    you've got a different bios & EC versions than mine, and I think his too.. But apart that, yeah, everything is the same ;)
    And of course, it is worldwide known that software can't be changed.. !

    FYI, clevo itself releases different versions of bios (or even mainboards) as time goes by, and other manufacturers can modify & adapt those bios.
    Stock drivers are not installed by clevo of course, although it's probable that almost everyone first used the same.
     
    lastnikita, Aug 28, 2012
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  2. Liberty

    Liberty Notebook Enthusiast

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    Clevo BIOS software is provided as standard. Sager, Eurocom, Xotic PC or any other international brand, the BIOS software change as requested or using the standard Clevo BIOS'es. All use the same motherboard. However you can be sure. Motherboard revision numbers according to the features it has to change.

    Greetings..
     
    Liberty, Aug 28, 2012
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  3. lastnikita

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    I don't understand your reply, but the point is, jaug1337 is correct, since your config is different it may lead to different results.
     
    lastnikita, Aug 28, 2012
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  4. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    Some distraction:

    Prema Mod for W150ERx/NP6165 & W170ER/NP6175 updated to v1.3! :)

    Changelog:

    - Added Full Fan Speed Mode (Press FN+1)

    - Prema Mod version now reported in BIOS menu (Some Chinese sites sold Prema Mod as their work without giving credit... :rolleyes:)

    [​IMG]

    Prema Mod v1.4 for W110ER later this week... ;)

    BTW: Thanks for all the nice comments & supporting my Starbucks sessions.

    ENJOY! :)
     
    Prema, Aug 28, 2012
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  5. Studie

    Studie Notebook Consultant

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    PREMA this mod is getting more and more amazing... Did you ever include the reset to defaults button so we don't have to pull the battery if we ever forgot what we changed and want it to be default?

    Thanks in advance! :)
     
    Studie, Aug 28, 2012
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  6. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    All BIOS have a "Load setup defaults" button... ;)
     
    Prema, Aug 28, 2012
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  7. feelseasy

    feelseasy Notebook Guru

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    thx prema. + repz
     
    feelseasy, Aug 28, 2012
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  8. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    Prema Mod for W110ER/NP6110 updated to version v1.4 (UV)

    Changelog:

    - updated Clevo Base to BIOS 04 & EC 03

    - Prema Mod version now reported in BIOS menu

    ENJOY! :)
     
    Prema, Aug 28, 2012
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  9. onkelosuppo

    onkelosuppo Notebook Consultant

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    Hi Prema,

    is there a changelog with Stock BIOS 04?
     
    onkelosuppo, Aug 29, 2012
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  10. lastnikita

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    What do you think Prema, is it possible ? Or it's a rebranded bios ?
     
    lastnikita, Aug 29, 2012
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  11. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    That's just the old stock BIOS for W150ERx & W170ER
     
    Prema, Aug 29, 2012
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  12. lastnikita

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    oops, didn't realize it's not w110 :p
     
    lastnikita, Aug 29, 2012
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  13. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    1. System BIOS 1.00.04.
    2. Update AMI code base to 20.
    3. Update ME firmware to 8.0.10.1464.
    4. Please refer to the instruction of readme.txt to update BIOS + ME firmware.
    5. To downgrade BIOS will cause system can't boot up if the BIOS of machine is 1.00.04 or later.

    But what really changed is the Optimus vROM. It downclocks the HD4000 to 350Mhz when idle and overall power consumtion has been reduced.
    They also implemented a second GT650M vBIOS and left the old one as a dummy. But after some digging through the BIOS and helpful input from SVL7 we managed to continue to use the overclock & undervolt vBIOS hacks.

    :D
     
    Prema, Aug 29, 2012
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  14. onkelosuppo

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    In other words, you had to get the modifications to the 650M back to working again?
    [EDIT] So I don't have a chance to revert it back to an earlier BIOS in case of bugs or anything?
     
    onkelosuppo, Aug 29, 2012
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  15. jaug1337

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    True

    But small changes tend to have consequences, thus different results ^^
     
    jaug1337, Aug 29, 2012
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  16. ha1o2surfer

    ha1o2surfer Notebook Evangelist

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    What exactly have they done to "reduce overall power consumption"? besides changing the idle clocks on the HD3000/4000.
     
    ha1o2surfer, Aug 29, 2012
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  17. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    Not me Clevo updated their code. My system uses about 11W while writing this. Only latest UV BIOS, no settings changed...with brightness on low its 9W ;)
     
    Prema, Aug 29, 2012
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  18. R3d

    R3d Notebook Virtuoso

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    Wow that's like a good 5-6w less than what it was at launch.
     
    R3d, Aug 29, 2012
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  19. magic_man

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    Can you post your specs? I don't know if I want to flash the UV version since there is no guarantee my specs will work at that voltage.
     
    magic_man, Aug 30, 2012
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  20. Liberty

    Liberty Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hi Prema,

    Is the voltage tweak, make GT650M higher clock speeds unattainable? In addition, I need your help in the process of returning the previous BIOS.

    Greetings..
     
    Liberty, Aug 30, 2012
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  21. lastnikita

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    @onkelosuppo: yep there's no way back apparently.


    Seems like 650M finally behaves correctly when turned off, and won't consume as much as before, that would be around one saved watt.

    At least that's what another user reported (on another forum), I didn't test it myself..
     
    lastnikita, Aug 30, 2012
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  22. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    3612QM
    Crucial M4 512GB
    2x4GB Samsung (1.3v)
    1202 Wireless-N
     
    Prema, Aug 30, 2012
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  23. dvdpt

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    wow, just went away for 3 days and there are already updates for w110er and w150/170. Prema is on fire ;)
    Just installed prema mod 1.3 in my W150erm and everything works great, including fn+1.

    btw, I noticed you changed the recovery page a bit Prema, has any w150/170 user had luck with recovery process?
     
    dvdpt, Aug 30, 2012
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  24. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    I am using an OV UV mod myself. All lower clocks are undervolted 3D boost is overvolted and the voltage throttle@60c+ removed. ;)

    I will check out a downgrade procedure...

    @dvdpt THX! ;)
     
    Prema, Aug 30, 2012
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  25. lastnikita

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    I assume this is not your released bios ?
     
    lastnikita, Aug 30, 2012
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  26. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    Nope it's not released...

    BTW: I can confirm that downgrading even when doing BIOS & EC at the same time is a bad idea, my machine is totally bricked even FN+B recovery won't trigger any longer... :'(
     
    Prema, Aug 30, 2012
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  27. lastnikita

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    holy , do you have access to another board ?
     
    lastnikita, Aug 30, 2012
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  28. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    Nope...guess it's time for a brake until I am back home next month...
     
    Prema, Aug 30, 2012
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  29. Liberty

    Liberty Notebook Enthusiast

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    Couldnt i turn back to the old Clevo's BIOS. Motherboard standing on the table. Need to re-program. Prema MOD users, are able to reverse Clevo's BIOS, right? My BIOS has crashed. BIOS recovery does not work. The computer is running but the screen does not display. A black screen. :confused:
     
    Liberty, Aug 30, 2012
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  30. landsome

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    Sorry, Prema. (I assume the option of going v4 stock works, though...)
     
    landsome, Aug 30, 2012
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  31. dvdpt

    dvdpt Notebook Guru

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    I believe you can go from Prema's bios to Clevo's bios, as long you don't downgrade the bios&EC (1.00.07 to 1.00.06).

    @Prema, too bad you can't recover it. Hopefully an external flash should do the trick. btw, didn't you have soldered a socket for bios to easily swap to another chip when things like this happen?
     
    dvdpt, Aug 30, 2012
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  32. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    Yes latest stock or Prema mod work. Also only the latest BIOS has the recovery enabled. It doesn't work on old BIOS, so we can't downgrade at all...taking the board to a shop now hope they have a programmer...only my P170HM3 has a socket and I am traveling with my W11 without socket or programmer...

    EDIT: Could someone with 04 W11 BIOS (stock or mod doesn't matter) please dump it with Afuwin and send me!

    THX!

    afuwin64.rar
     
    Prema, Aug 30, 2012
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  33. lastnikita

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    I may flash then dump tonight, if nobody does it before.
    Just noticed that I already have that coil whine, at first I thought it was my ssd, because it did vary with ssd activity.
    But I just started with no disk and it still does it. Hope it won't make it louder with new bios.
    I can't hear it if my ear is not plugged in the computer though :-/
     
    lastnikita, Aug 30, 2012
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  34. Liberty

    Liberty Notebook Enthusiast

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    W150ERx Prema Mod v1.2 from the downgrade to Clevo W150ERx 1.00.06 BIOS I did. I just did downgrade the BIOS. EC could not. Because the notebook shut down after the BIOS downgrade. Re-opened, but the screen did not display. The screen was black. :confused:
     
    Liberty, Aug 30, 2012
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  35. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    DUDE that's what I tested for you and bricked my machine.
    Downgrade doesn't work even if we flash EC & BIOS in one run it will result in a brick!
     
    Prema, Aug 30, 2012
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  36. steberg

    steberg Notebook Evangelist

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    Whats up with Clevo?? I'm starting to loose my faith in Clevo! My W110ER broke down last week. When I received it, it would not do a reboot at all while on AC, always stop before post, no matter what memory and HDD/SSD configurations I tried. Then it would hang every time I booted into windows. So I tried Linux LiveCD Mint 13 and Kubuntu 12.04 it hanged on both when just reaching desktop. Tried to install XP, it would just hang before desktop showed up. Now it won't boot at all anymore, so it's back to my reseller.
    Now when I read about this BIOS mess they created, downgrading bios causes it to brick, it's unheard off!
    My university starts on monday, P150HM is way to big to carry around. :-(
     
    steberg, Aug 30, 2012
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  37. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    HTWingNut is sending me a dump tonight and SVL7 is getting the proper chip tomorrow flashes it and is sending it over along with a socket. Will have it by Wednesday, so CU then guys!

    BTW: Biosmods.Wordpress.com broke the tenthousend mark today. THX for all the interest. :)
     
    Prema, Aug 30, 2012
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  38. Liberty

    Liberty Notebook Enthusiast

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    Prema, I understand you. But I also have an old BIOS and EC version separately. However, Prema W150ERx bios Mod v1.2 consists of a single file. I'm sorry about your situation. So what do we do now?
     
    Liberty, Aug 30, 2012
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  39. dvdpt

    dvdpt Notebook Guru

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    That's the problem, you should have flashed bios 1.00.07 because Prema bios 1.2 is already based on that version.
    Try to contact your re-seller or try a local computers shop, maybe they can flash it externally :thumbsup:. I think it's better to try the re seller to avoid warranties problems

    edit: prema bios v1.2 had 2 files, the bios and EC, at least I remember it when I flashed in my laptop.
    Have you tried the recovery procedure?
     
    dvdpt, Aug 30, 2012
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  40. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    It makes no difference if we flash it with or without EC.
    AS CLEVO SAID: DOWNGRADE IS NOT POSSIBLE.

    Liberty is a reseller ;)
     
    Prema, Aug 30, 2012
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  41. Liberty

    Liberty Notebook Enthusiast

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    We are already reseller. ;) We tried the BIOS recovery, but the result was negative. And we also have a programmer. Xeltek SuperPro 5000E Universal IC Chip Device Programmer

    However, the SOIC32 chip is not the appropriate socket adapter. :mad:
     
    Liberty, Aug 30, 2012
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  42. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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  43. ha1o2surfer

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    Even with this new BIOS, my idle draw still is high. 17 watts once I let it sit for while and 23 about an hour after boot up. There must be some program running in the background that it activating the nVidia GPU. Prema, your idle draw is amazing!! :)
     
    ha1o2surfer, Aug 30, 2012
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  44. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    On W150ER V1.3 Prema mod, lately max fan has just been pulsing instead of constant.
     
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    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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  47. dvdpt

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    yep that's normal like Prema said. It happens when temperatures crosses certain values that would increase/decrease fan speed when using it normally.
    For me, even using fn+1, the fan even stops totally when cpu temps reach <48-49ºC
     
    dvdpt, Aug 31, 2012
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  48. ha1o2surfer

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  49. lastnikita

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    Are you using quiet/power saving modes in clevo control center ?
    I wish I had a watt-meter or whatever it's called =)
     
    lastnikita, Aug 31, 2012
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  50. guily6669

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    THANKS. I just can't wait till my W110ER arrives...

    What if I underclock the cpu+HD 4000, Nvidia gt650 and the ram to the lowest mhz possible, could it be possible to reach around 9watt?

    Why does this laptop really has nasty consumption on idle? Alienware had equivalent hardware, but lasted almost 13hours on battery saving mod...

    ps: Or is there an app for windows that will make it as energy saving mod as near as the alienware
    Has this option been already implemented in latest bios mod version?

    That's the main reason I would like to flash my laptop with this bios mod.

    In the future I would like to OC the laptop, but since it has already nasty temperatures, it's hard to even look at the OC options :).


    ps: If I flash with the latest bios mod, can I re-flash the original Bios, or update to an upcoming official bios the normal way?
    Keep Cool
     
    guily6669, Aug 31, 2012
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