Pre-Order for the 9850 (M980NU) TOMORROW!

You forgot to do the same for the Sager. lol

 

1 - 9850 isn't made in US.

So basically u r comparing prices in a obscure way (i live in brazil so i have to import it, i did my math and both pay EXACTLY same taxes) and just post "lol the 9850 is 1200 dollars cheaper than the M17x for the exact same specs." being totally partial unh...

I'm not going to argue with you kid, have a fun trolling

And thanks for making clear that u r not drunk just trolling lol

/quit this

 

Awesome, the wait is over, the M980NU is alive, it is alive!

I wonder how will it compare to the new m17x, this will be an interesting showdown.

 

Yes im anxious to see some numbers for the M17x since those should be in peoples hands alot sooner then the M98s will but will be a good indication of what to expect from the sager. In the end what will define both machines is the CPU overclock otherwise they should be indentical.

 

Pretty much, and the quality of components will matter at the end, too, I wonder, which one will have the largest battery life, the M980NU or the m17x?, that is a good question...

 

I think the Alienware is 9 cell and the sager is 12 cell , if both were running off the 9400m then in theory the Sager should win , but since we dont know how active the fans will be or if theres silent modes etc for both machines only time will tell. Build wise i dont see how the alienware cant win honestly with anodized aluminum case, thats pretty hardcore stuff , the alienware also has a screwless bottom and some other fancy bells and whistles that really make it stand out from the rest.

 

That makes sense, 12-Cell awesomeness, but I doubt that it would last for much longer than my Sager NP9262 when at full throttle.

Agreed, I am anxious to see what this new machine is capable of.

 

The Sager NP9850 is using the new Li-Polymer battery so it will be interesting to see if it is not only lighter, but if it will also give longer battery life.

 

Nice info donald , that i did not know. Im very interested in both machines at the moment and honestly the performance will be so similar on them that it boils down to more the aesthetic differences for me.

 

Those are some quite good news, thanks for posting, Donald.

I am still having nightmares about the Sager NP9262's super heavy battery, and the AC Adapter... you could use them to deter a thief!

Pretty much, I have to say, I like the more balanced look on the M980NU than the flashy look on the m17x.

 

I would say service and support after the sale would be more important than any small aesthetic differences...and on that score we win hands down.

 

Agreed, my experience with Sager has been good so far, except for 3 messed-up screws on the bottom panel of my laptop when it was returned to me, gotta find a small-enough drill to free them.

 

Yes service and support is for sure a big thing and always nice when its as close as a forum or a simple phone call .

 

The M17x spec manual lists the battery as having 86 Whr and 11.1v while the M980nu is rated at 68.82 Whr and 14.8V (*according to Notebookcheck).

I honestly don't know how much battery ratings translate into charge time but is it correct to think those values mean if the two laptops consume about the same power then the 9-cell would last longer than the 12-cell?

 

I am not actually sure, sorry, man.

 

Yeah the M980NU lid just looks much nicer than the M17x (but i have to say that i love those leds and the ability to create effects like glowing keyboard) one but the mirror finish in the palm rest would probably make me go crazy .

In this generation alienware really did a good job (aluminum, much smaller ac adapter, good price, smaller form factor [this can count as a plus or a minus but ok lol] but i can't really feel comfortable to bring it with me in my internship in a justice forum (well I'm not going to because i have a macbook for this but maybe if something happen with my macbook i could need lol).

On the other hand the M980NU is probably going to run cooler because of the bigger form factor and maybe have a better battery time.

But I'm probably going with the M17x anyway because its really hard to say no to aluminum .

 

Some say that great minds think alike! The mirror finish palmrest is pristine, but needs to be cleaned all the time, I guess.

I agree, Alienware outdid themselves in design, new ideas and flashy.

Very true, the heat dissipation is going to be awesome to have, especially when overclocking that QX9300...

Aluminum is the law of the land nowadays, it helps to dissipate heat, too.

 

To keep a lid with mirror finish clean its already pretty hard imagine a palm rest .

All anodized aluminum on the alienware is just awesome (and no finger print magnet ). I always wanted an macbook with better VGA (and as it have the same chipset as the new macbook it could be a pretty good hackintosh).

 

Indeed, it is a clean person's hell.

I agree, I have always liked MacBook's clean and neat style.

By the way, speaking about running Mac on Non-Mac Hardware is against the Forum Rules.

 

The M17X also has the 9400GS in there to run when your not gaming, thats going to help battery life a lot, I do not think the 9850 has something like that.

 

ViciousXUSMC, I do believe it does.

 

Yes, the M98NU (9850) does have a 9400

 

They both use the same chipset.

 

everything is the same except for looks, cooling, bios, and the sager has a 3rd hdd and comes barebone, were as dell provides better cuatomer support


these will determine the winner


honestly i think alienware will win this round.

 

M17x manual also gives an estimate of 2.5 hours on integrated graphics. What other power saving settings were also used to get that aren't listed though.

 

Are you nuts?

 

ROTFLMAO...

 

Wow, this is really impressive. I do like the fact that there's a good amount of choice in this segment of notebooks, all priced very well. Also, I'm quite fond of the styling of this notebook. It's not too flashy, not too quiet. I'm interested to see what overclocking ability it has and how the cooling system fares.

 

I have no real experience with CS of ether, but I also do belive the AW M17X will edge out the Sager if somebody was well informed and unbiased in brand.

I think I would really enjoy the lights and stuff on the AW, the cooling looks good so far, and 17" is simply easier to carry around, find space for, and accesores for (bags and things) I didnt really like the looks of it at first (looks too much like a car) and I still dont like the lid too much but in pictures it looks thinner, and thankfully its not covered in a mirror finish like the Sager.

The Sager though may win due to better cooling, better bios, the 3rd hdd may mean something to somebody, and also while its a pro/con at the same time it has the bigger screen.

 

From my experience with Dell, their customer support is pretty good, especially their XPS and Server division, so I wouldn't assume the worst of Dell in that aspect.

But, in response to the original quote, if Alienware were to win this round, it would probably be due to the size in comparison to Sager and possibly the ATi cards if they do indeed come out for the M17x.

 

I dont see anybody really willing to dump GTX280s for 4870's if your buying now, but for new customers at the time it may be a advantage.

The main thing is they need to come with 1GB of ram each, the 4870's in the W90 only have 512mb of ram each, I feel the GTX280 SLI has the main advantage right now not due to being faster/better cards but simply because they have 1gb of VRAM and this makes a very large difference in the performance of many games when your playing with high settings and we should all be expecting to play at high settings with any of these big 3 machines.

 

i would say the alienware will win this round.I AM NOT A FANBOY LOOK AT MY SIG. AND THEN IF YOU KNOW MY PREIVOUS NOTEBOOK AND WHY I CHOSE IT OVER THE M17 YOU WILL THINK THAT I'M CONFUSED AT WHAT I'M ABOUT TO SAY BUT THIS IS AFTER SEEING AND THINKING AND HEARING EVERYONE ONES OPINION. please agree or disagree but i want to gey my point across

OMG I left and everyone is making fun of me. Ok this is my thinking from seeing everything.

Sager Pros
Looks
It’s sexy, it looks very good. I love how the back logo just blends in and lights ip in the back. It look official. The notebook closed looks sleek. And it has a gaming look but it’s not to loud.
Hardware
The biggest pro that I see one the sager is the the fact that it has a THIRD HDD. The more the better. I don’t care what people say. “Oh you don’t need more then 1tb in a notebook. You can get a desktop and an external.” Yeah yeah it may be true(right now) but remember when people was saying oh you will never need more then 100gb of hdd space and more then 1gb of ram. You don’t need a cpu more then 2ghz, and you don’t need sli/crossfire and you don’t need a dual core you can stay with single core and you don’t need more then quad dual core is fine. LOOK AT THERE SIGS AND ASK THEM WHAT HAPPENED.

THEORY
This hasn’t been proven yet but after having the sager np9262 I think the sager will have an awesome cooling within it. I don’t think overheating will be a problem. Sager managed to cool down a desktop qx9650 and they also cooled down a core i7 965. Which isn’t easy. I believe sager will shut down the qx9300 which many notebooks had a hard time doing.
Price
The sager is cheaper. And I’m not talking about the 100 dollar difference. If you go barebone it starts at 1600 nothing. And then build up. I won’t get to mathy but basically, a qx9300 on ebay, ram on sale from newegg, hdd on newegg also. And the 280m for 400 dollars. It’s cheaper then the aleinware.


Dell Pros
Looks
For people with braging right’s this is the notebook right here. It’s loud and no one within a 10-20 milie radius(not true of cousre) will not have the same notebook as you. The lighting affect is really great and it’s awesome.

Size
17in is maybe the max that people wants in a notebook. I don’t think I would want something bigger then a 17in and I’m not going to get a notebook smaller. I think that 17in is perfect (for me at least)

As for support I think that dell with have a better suppor then sager. I have seen someone broke there their m1730 maxed out on there going to get a m17x as a replacement. That’s awesome.

Theory.
I can’t prove this myself but I have heard the m1730 has the best coling system on a notebook. I don’t what and how true it is but I heard it’s a solid system all about. Also I have yet to see someone complain about the old m17x or the m1730. And if you combine them both……….
Bios
As far as I can tell the aleinware bios is soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo nice. It was a review from driver heaven. I know that’s just a sample and everything won’t be released with all but at least I can see what aleinware is coming up with. I love a lot of bios options.
Even though the sager has more pros and it seems like the winner. There is more cons for the sager. A lot more cons that I won’t say about either cause I don’t want to get a referral for speaking my mind. I Judge off the cons more then the pros. And it’s a lot form both

 

TL;DR.

Summary please. What's your point?

 

From an European perspective, in terms of warranty, it is true that Dell is better, with that I have to agree.
Why?

Because they offer worldwide coverage for your notebook. I can buy my notebook from US and use it in UK and still get the same warranty support and service without paying anything extra which IMO is awsome!

In the case of Clevo, because I generally move form one place to another, warranty support sucks and sucks big time because it is pretty much non-existent if I move from one country to another.

However, my case only applies for a minority of costumers.

 

my point is that the hardware is so close you have to look at what the companies have alreadly provided to make a choice.we have to make a decision when they both released.

 

Nice summary don. I totally agree. I would like to have the option for the 3rd HDD also but would not sacrifice the overall size to get it.

 

Well I'm this minority lol (i live in brazil, if i have to send it to repairs in EUA just the shipping will be like $200 LOL) and plus the complete care is just the best warranty in the world (with apple care) .

 

Well, I thankfully I live in the good ole U.S and A (BORAT!) and my first notebook was a Dell...and it was fine, but the support was crap. Any issue I had with my notebook, I had to research (at places like this) myself. Because when I would call the tech support, inevitably I get someone from India reading from a script who knew NOTHING about the hardware I was using.

One thing I see about these Sager resellers that I don't see from Dell is, they're on this forum answering questions, and are very knowledgeable about the hardware...and I don't have to worry if I have a problem, them reading from some script and not knowing what the hell they're talking about.

I will agree that for foreign buyers the issues of shipping should be taken into account...but for me it does come down to customer service and Dell fails at that.

 

will the 9850 be offered with the 260GTX and/or 4870?

 

The only thing announced so far from US resellers is the 280ms , i think Eurocom offered the 260s in there preorder ? its been a while since i looked at the page though.

 

stupid question, since the 9850 is MEANT for SLI... will there be any issues with one video card?

 

No, it is MEANT to handle either one or two video cards

 

do i just plug and play the 2nd card? or does SLI require more work?

 

You need to connect the bridge cable, and install the drivers and set it up correclty.

 

I'm tossing ideas around, and researching myself into a circle the past few days.
Is a set up like this below doing a disservice to a 9850?

Sounds funny, but I feel like it's not putting enough into the guts of the machine. However, my needs are satisfied without going overboard. Plus, I like the way it looks, since I miss the Asus w90vp unit I gave to my daughter.

One Primary Hard Drive: 320GB 7200rpm SATA-300 II 16MB

Only 1 GPU: nVidia GeForce GTX 280M (1 GPU) Not SLI

CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo T9900 3.06 GHz 6MB

OR the T9700 ??? Since its so empty inside I thought the heat would be ok for gaming with the T9900.

Only 4GB PC3-1333Mhz DDR3 (2GBx2)RAM


Is that too much of a waste of space? It all comes out to over my budget by a few hundred with the 2 yr, no dead pixel warranty.

I did not think that deciding on another laptop would be as difficult as it has proven to be!

 

Anyone know what resellers test their machines prior to shipping?

 

hi,
I believe Ken Lee of Gentech would if you wanted it tested prior to shipping. 1-800 -990-7945. 1toppc.com
And also powernotebooks.com
Both companies I am sure have a burn in period for their systems before they ship, but if you have a special request both places are excellent from my experience.

 

Anyone advertising a model as a Sager branded model is built and tested by Sager themselves and drop shipped from Sager. Sager thoroughly tests each unit prior to shipment.

 

Thank you, Justin! I had no idea how Sager worked with orders. I was under the impression the re-sellers handled the units..
Which makes me want to ask,, why the need for a middle man like re-sellers? Couldn't they just have a site for you to configure on and order that way?

I'm still learning so much about the World of Laptops.

 

No problem. In general most resellers provide lower pricing and don't require the user to purchase a OS compared to Sager. Some of us resellers bundle extra services/warranties with purchase. (i.e. 3 Year Labor Warranties, 24/7 Support etc..) Other users have stated on here that there sometimes can be a language/communication barrier when working with Sager direct. Sager promotes their reseller channel and how they prefer to do business.