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    Recommed 180W / 220W power supply for P150EM?

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by HTWingNut, Aug 6, 2012.

  1. Meaker@Sager

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    Well I used my amazon vouchers and upgraded to expedited shipping, should get it Tuesday.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Aug 17, 2012
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  2. HTWingNut

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    Model number and purchase location(s) (in US please :))
     
    HTWingNut, Aug 17, 2012
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    Already been provided.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Aug 17, 2012
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    wups, I see from pau1ow... thankx.
     
    HTWingNut, Aug 18, 2012
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    Thanks for the model number ... waiting for your test on tuesday Meaker ... before buying one for my hm to see if it solve my problem.
     
    Tonrac, Aug 19, 2012
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    Awww, got it today, it is a different connector :( I've ordered the right connector and will do some soldering :)
     
    Meaker@Sager, Aug 20, 2012
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  7. HTWingNut

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    meh, that's no good. :( Guess I should have opted for a P170EM. :p
     
    HTWingNut, Aug 20, 2012
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    lool is the tip 5.5x2.5mm but the internal different ? I think I also have one of this tip lol
     
    pau1ow, Aug 20, 2012
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    This thread's suggestions currently deal with the p150em correct? 220W with a single CPU and single GPU?

    Oh man... what kind of adapter will I need for a p370em? (2x 680Ms in SLI). Since I don't know the kind of pin, can anyone ball-park the watts, etc for some OC'ing?
     
    1rarebuy, Aug 20, 2012
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    300 watt minimum.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Aug 20, 2012
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    I believe it is a 300W PSU with option for two 300W PSU's connected.
     
    HTWingNut, Aug 20, 2012
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    120W per GFX card + 60W for the CPU = 300 so yeah.....
     
    Meaker@Sager, Aug 20, 2012
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    + display, backlight keyboard, ram, ssd etc etc! :D If you plan not to overvolt, 300w should be OK - though if you want to bench both cards at 1050/2550 with an O/C CPU, 300W power might be just a bit a bottleneck!
     
    pau1ow, Aug 21, 2012
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    Well my adaptor is wired up and working.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Aug 21, 2012
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    That was actually pretty hard to mess this up with only 2-pole :D Can you post a SS of your mod ? My last mod wasn't great but I think the one I've got back now looks quite c00l!
     
    pau1ow, Aug 21, 2012
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  16. Meaker@Sager

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    Come on man, this is a meaker mod (not going to be pretty) and I would not take the adaptor round with me for fear of it breaking, but its working solidly and the tip is not getting too hot.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Aug 21, 2012
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    Actually if I decide to go this route, I will likely take it to a TV repair shop down the street. They saved my butt a couple times fixing a video card that lost a cap when I yanked it out of my desktop. I'm sure soldering a couple PSU wires would be cake for them and worth paying a couple beers. ;)
     
    HTWingNut, Aug 21, 2012
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    [​IMG]

    and a size comparison: (90W acer, 180W sager, 230W asus)

    [​IMG]
     
    Meaker@Sager, Aug 21, 2012
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    HP makes a 180W PSU that's more powerful than any of the other 180W PSU's I've used. While I could shut down the others with my 580M and 2920XM ES, I've been unable to overload this one.

    So that might be worth a shot. It looks just like the 230W PSU Meaker posted above.

    I'll see how it handles a 680M later today.
     
    5482741, Aug 21, 2012
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    it looks like mythlogic is selling the clevo power supplies for 100+shipping. that seems a little bit steep. i am thinking of just sticking with the clevo approved power adapter. has anyone seen a cheaper quote for adapters?
     
    Ebolamonkey, Aug 22, 2012
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    Meaker@Sager, Aug 22, 2012
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    Meaker can you take a picture of the ASUS plug and the Clevo one ? also hows the PSU soo far?
     
    Killerinstinct, Sep 11, 2012
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    A great PSU to mod is the slim 240W Delta one that Dell uses.

    Other than the smaller size and higher wattage, I also wanted an adapter that connected at a 90° angle; so I sacrificed a 120W PSU in the mod as well.

    I didn't take enough pictures, but this should give a general idea of what I did:
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    I used these two PSU's:
    AC Adapter for HP Compaq 316688 001 344895 001 120W | eBay
    New AC Adapter Power Supply Dell PA 9E PA9E 240W 330 3514 J211H J938H Y044M | eBay

    Altogether, it cost me $56.64, excluding eBay bucks.
     
    5482741, Nov 5, 2012
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  24. Meaker@Sager

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    If I had known that the asus one did not have the right connector I would have gone with a slim one too.

    Best way to mod it for sure, safest and most professional looking.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Nov 5, 2012
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    Yeh, I was going to get another 180W, because my straight connector was starting to break apart. But for some reason those are $350 on ebay now.

    So I ended up going with the 240W.

    I should've gotten a right angle cable that was longer though.
     
    5482741, Nov 5, 2012
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    Is that safe to do? Use a cable from a 120W PSU on one with twice the amps?

    Although I think I may give it a go. Looks simple enough.
     
    HTWingNut, Nov 5, 2012
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    You could go with a 180W cable. I just used this one because it has the 90° connector.
     
    5482741, Nov 5, 2012
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    The cable is not important in the slightest. The tip just needs to be properly attached.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Nov 5, 2012
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    So the tip can handle that load no problem?
     
    HTWingNut, Nov 6, 2012
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    Can that dell adapter work out of box with the 150em.
     
    omnid88, Nov 15, 2012
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    Soooo, does anyone make a >180W PSU that fits the P150EM without any mods and works?
     
    Tyranids, Nov 15, 2012
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    So far nope.
     
    HTWingNut, Nov 16, 2012
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    I could maybe be persuaded to part with my 230W asus adaptor with new lead/tip if someone does not feel up to modding.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Nov 17, 2012
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  34. Tyranids

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    Haha if it works properly without changing the power connector (which I swear I read somewhere can't sustain >180W for long periods of time) I'd rather just make one myself ;).
     
    Tyranids, Nov 18, 2012
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    Ill just let you check with those other people who made the mod on a highly oced p150em with a 680m. ; )

    It works perfectly, nor would I send it to anyone if I was not 100% sure it was safe/reliable.

    You are stuck with the tip due to the connector on the motherboard.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Nov 18, 2012
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  36. Tyranids

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    I thought the guy on the P157EM thread was saying he wanted to solder on the larger connecter because the one it comes with isn't good enough. But you mean to say that even if you did that, it wouldn't connect? I thought P150EM/P170EM had the same mobo?
     
    Tyranids, Nov 18, 2012
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    Well if you feel like modifying your motherboard and casing too, but it seems a bit overkill to me when there is not a problem with the included one.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Nov 18, 2012
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    For travelling, a Fortron 150W 19V universal PSU will work nicely. 8 tips included.

    For gaming - buy another original PSU (gulp, the price...) and live on!
     
    b0b1man, Nov 18, 2012
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  39. Meaker@Sager

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    Both of which will die if you overclock the CPU and GPU together b0b.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Nov 18, 2012
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    I definetely stay away from overclocking :D
    At least in my case, with my W370ET - this 150W PSU is perfect for overclocking. I bought that and its really nice. Size = same as the 120W.
     
    b0b1man, Nov 18, 2012
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    If you are not overcocking then there is no point in a 230W PSU which was being asked about....

    This is tricky because you have options to oversize your power adaptor but for greater than 180W you need to create your own.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Nov 18, 2012
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    Yea, kinda the reason why I skipped on the P370EM... I felt there was no chance I could lug around the 300W monstrosity and since there was no option for a travel adaptor, this idea fell down completely.

    All 120W (and less) notebooks are in the perfect position for switching up PSU's and thats what I like about them - a 90W for travel and a 150W for overclock can be bought really easy.

    Its a shame there are no universal 180-220W adapters out there.... But there arent many notebooks with such a high-end hardware as well.
     
    b0b1man, Nov 18, 2012
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    You can always take a dell slimline one and mod it....
     
    Meaker@Sager, Nov 18, 2012
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    Ok so what exactly needs to be done to mod the 230W Asus adapter to work? Do I just open up both the 180 and 230 and switch the cords leading from the adapter to computer? That seems like a fairly trivial solution, and if it was the case I'd be really surprised that nobody sold a 230 with the barrel type connector.

    EDIT I read the entire thread and see that the above is not the case. So, do the wires inside need to be soldered according to the diagramed picture near the beginning like the following I believe
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    Tyranids, Nov 19, 2012
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    I ordered these same ones, the smaller one was easy enough to open up, but the larger one seems to have an odd sized Torx head. Will have to stop by hardware store sometime and grab a torx kit. I only have T10 and T15 and one that looks like a T5 but it's too small.
     
    HTWingNut, Nov 19, 2012
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    Is this a DC car psu?
     
    gaidin43, Nov 19, 2012
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    Just ordered a Clevo P150EM with the 3610QM and 680M. Can the 180w PSU handle 1000/2400 on the 680M w/ no CPU O.C.? What happens if I exceed this limit?
     
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    I have P170EM with 3610QM and 670M. With full load under AIDA64, it consumes about 150W if battery is fully charged, about 180W if battery is 90% charged, and about 200W if battery is 50-80% charged. I bought 150W power supply, it is enough to work with fully charged battery with any load. But AFAIK P150EM has native 180W power supply so it should be enough in any mode of operation.
     
    emusic, Nov 28, 2012
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    That seems seems promising, but the 670M has 25W lower TDP than the 680M. I wonder how the performance would be without any battery connected?
     
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    Without the battery at all, no charging will be performed and no extra power will be consumed.

    In any case, if P150EM is equipped with 180W PSU, it should be enough for any operation mode. Maybe it uses less power to change the battery than P170EM.

    If you want to monitor power consumption in real-time, you can buy a cheap energy meter like this. But it shows total AC power consumed while 180W is pure DC power (19 V * 9.47 A). PSU efficiency is about 87% so at full 180W load AC energy meter will show 180 / 0.87 = 207W.
     
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