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    Recommed 180W / 220W power supply for P150EM?

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by HTWingNut, Aug 6, 2012.

  1. Bryanu

    Bryanu Notebook Deity

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    I dunno if the PSU is related or another issue or just a random time the bench doesn't run great. Is it consistent?

    On your first one for starters the CPU was getting near critical point at 95c. I think once you hit 100 it shuts off as can cause damage.

    Do you still have the old hack job PSU? If so just run a test with it and again with the new correctly modded one.

    Generally if you hit a power limit the PSU just cut off or reset so I would imagine the 240w is doing fine on that mark.
     
  2. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    It could be now it has all the power it wants you actually do get thermal throttle I suppose.
     
  3. johnnyman27

    johnnyman27 Notebook Lover

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    can u be more specific?how can i see if i have thermal throttle?

    it's consistent yes. now to mod psu again i must unsolder the new cable and solder then old one but as u see i have allrdy benchmarks from the old cable.another example!

    old one room temp 28.3

    [​IMG]

    new cable room temp 31.5

    [​IMG]
     
  4. Bryanu

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    I think your CPU is getting too hot and throttling.

    CPU should stay under 90. You are getting mid 90's almost. Remember at 100 it will turn off. I think once you get into 90's it starts to throttle/slow down. If you notice your actual power usage was higher on new cable even lol (on CPU at least)

    Because the room is a tad warmer that may be why it shows consistent lower as it throttles more.

    Though oddly your first set of pics show the modded with lower temp so dunno, unless that was a random hit.
     
  5. johnnyman27

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    the temps was lower on first pick with old cable cuz room temp was 28.3 and with new cable room temp today is 31.5 even 32 sometimes.
     
  6. Meaker@Sager

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    XTU would let you know the throttle level.
     
  7. johnnyman27

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    is there a chance that the solder in not enough at wire connect and cant get much electricity through it?
     
  8. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    If a single point is causing it, it would likely be more of a failure case, a cable can dissipate a lot more heat than a single solder point and cause a larger voltage drop which would lead to the system perhaps thinking the adapter was at its limit where as if it was the solder joint it would likely just fail.
     
  9. johnnyman27

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    hmm.so m8 what u recommend me to do?u are the expert here :)
     
  10. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    I'd look to see what the CPU is doing, the reported TDPs, temperatures and frequencies and see exactly how it is behaving.
     
  11. johnnyman27

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    yeah i agree.which software u recommend m8 to see all that?hwinfo64?hardware monitor or open hardware monitor?also at power what exactly is package temp and IA cores temp?thx again for ur time and help!
     
  12. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    As I suggested, go to the source, fire up intel XTU, go to the graphing tool and make it give you all the juicy stats (spanner at top right of graph) with none of the fluff and see what it is actually doing.
     
  13. johnnyman27

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    i just run one 3dmark11 stock speeds both cpu gpu.i got 0 throttling and temps was between 74 and 80 for 4 cores.its good i thing.what u think?
     
  14. Meaker@Sager

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    It says your modded adapter and settings are no worse than stock lol, that's about it.
     
  15. johnnyman27

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    so u think its all fine?here is another 3d11 test with 7970m oc 1070 core and 1560 memory.

    [​IMG]

    and here is with old modded cable.

    [​IMG]
     
  16. Meaker@Sager

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    No real difference between the two, all a modded psu does is let you push further or let you sustain longer.
     
  17. dejagore

    dejagore Newbie

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    Unfortunately my power adapter for Clevo 150HM burnt and I'm also trying to find a replacement :(
    I've found this adapter : Movano 19v 9.5a
    (found it also here but the PL price is cheaper Liteon power supply 19v 9.5a movano - Electro Direct ) which is suppose to be a replacement part for Asus G70S, G70Sg, G70V.

    Will it work with Clevo 150HM ? The parameters seems to be the same as the original adapter from Clevo and it costs roughly 40$.
     
  18. Meaker@Sager

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    It will likely work but be of poor quality which could lead to excess interference or in the worst case a fire.
     
  19. dejagore

    dejagore Newbie

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    That's what I thought :(

    As for the higher price range I also found Whitenergy Power adapter which is HP Compaq 05325 replacement : Whitenergy 19V | 9.5A 180W 5.5x2.5 mm HP Compaq 05325

    The price is higher : 70$ - not sure if it's reliable power adapter thought.
     
  20. Meaker@Sager

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    I've taken apart and inspected the LI SHIN 0415B19180, it's available in the UK, not sure about the US and is a nicely built unit.
     
  21. bigwoof

    bigwoof Newbie

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    Hi pau1ow,

    I saw your ebay listing for the dell power supplies to P150SM PSU convertor. I am interested in getting one (I have a spare alienware M17x-r4 power supply I want to use for my Clevo P150SM). I assume your cable has all the polarities etc. right

    Ebay does not really work with me. I could not figure out how to PM you directly. Can you contact me and I will figure out how to paypal you for the cable and get it shipped to me?

    Thanks,

    Raj
     
  22. kong

    kong Notebook Consultant

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    I believe it's the same as X75 Connector Converter. However, please mind the heat when you use the laptop at full performance though, I think the wire is rather thin and a little bit long :rolleyes:
     
  23. bigwoof

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    Thanks for the link kong! It looks like the exact same cable. Thanks for the heads up about the performance. I will get one from bixmart and test it. I just so happened to have a spare Alienware PSU lying around for some reason :)

    I might just get 2 or 3 (bixmart is quite cheap and the shipping cost to where I stay alone is more expensive than the cable) and just "re-purpose" the connectors. i.e., cut out the offending thin cable.

    Raj
     
  24. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    That makes sense, just make sure the contact between a new cable and the connector is solid.
     
  25. soakr

    soakr Notebook Guru

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    I've skimmed through the thread but just to make sure: it is possible to use a 240W PSU without any kind of modification to it? So if I purchase one of the power connectors mentioned in this thread and a 240W Dell PSU I'm good to go?
     
  26. Meaker@Sager

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    Yes, though how the new models EC will let you go beyond 180W I don't know.
     
  27. CoolPrizes

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    I've been out of the scene for quite a while now. What "new" models?! :eek:
     
  28. Meaker@Sager

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    The SM seres. I have not tried an over sized brick with them.
     
  29. wojnar

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  31. Meaker@Sager

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    You need a supply capable of delivering the right input voltage.
     
  32. wojnar

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    thanks for answers i will probably buy this dell charger but do you know about any nice converter from dell output to sager 4-pin one (round one), which i have in my p170em.
    Thanks
     
  33. Meaker@Sager

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    Why not just get the sager one with the right plug? There are 220W, 300w and 330w options.
     
  34. HTWingNut

    HTWingNut Potato

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    Right. For 4-pin you have plenty of higher Wattage options. For the single 5.5mm/2.5mm barrel plug you are limited to 180W.
     
  35. wojnar

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  36. Meaker@Sager

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    Buy a proper delta brick, not a knock off.
     
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  37. wojnar

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    Thanks for very valuable answer

    Sent from my GT-I9505 using Tapatalk
     
  38. Meaker@Sager

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    Not a problem, not worth going through the effort of .Oddington a psu if it's no good in the first place.
     
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