SLI MSI 1070 MXM in P370EM... An adventure

I would not risk it if tweaking certainly.

 

this will go for me? https://www.ebay.com/itm/780-Watt-A...cable-for-Clevo-P870DM-DM3-KM1-/122648949348?

 

It would work yes.

 

That would be much better for 1070s in SLI than a single 330 watt. Otherwise you'd have to run two 330w bricks with the adapter.

 

Yes, that's what I'm using, I've had it peak at 500W wall draw at 160+W per GPU so the extra capacity (660W vs 780W) isn't the issue, it's cost and ergonomics (size/weight/hassle of the extra adapter+cable+joiner)

The joiner is IMO potentially dangerous if it's not on a desk, ~20cm length with a fair bit of weight off it is just asking for it to be partly pulled out and cause issues at the power draw going through the pins. The Eurocom 780W by comparison has a decent length cable

I use one 330W whenever it's not on my main desk, this is fine as I have the two GPUs vBIOS modded to be 100W power limit stock. When I'm on my desk with the dual adapters and cooler pad I use a different Afterburner profile that increases clocks and TDP to 150W per GPU.

 

The adapter definitely makes things more cumbersome. Good thing you've got your Afterburner profiles for quick-ish switching!

 

What the profile is? I cannot just understand (((I then will take it to myself) for 2 GPU

 

The buttons on the Afterburner program - 1 2 3 4 5 and Save (the floppy disk icon). Set your clocks/voltage/power limit, apply them, hit the save button, hit a number - from there, when you click the number, the settings will be automatically loaded and applied.

From there I set hotkeys Ctrl+Alt+Shift+1-5 so I can switch on the fly (this also works in game); you can also use the automatic profile switching

I find I have to set each GPU's settings independently; synchronising the GPUs together never worked. Afterburner interface is buggy as hell but it is the only program for editing the turboboost 3.0 frequency/volt curve... Why!!?

 

It's getting more and more complex to properly interface with the GPU hence the lack of programs.

 

Whether it is possible to change ides 10DE_1BE1 on ides 10DE_1BA1? on the video card?

 

I tried flashing a couple of 1BE1 vBIOSes; they gave no display output

 

I have a feeling you would need to mod the system bios?

 

I doubt it, 1BE1 is Gsync version of 1070, P370EM predates Gsync

 

the problem i feel is gsync. even I have issues with accessing the bios after tweaking some settings like RAM cos I believe it's because of the gsync incompatibility.

 

means it won't turn out (1BE1) to stitch it vbios 86.04.42.00.03

 

The 1BA1 version of that vbios works. Code 43 errors were due to the driver package I was trying to install back then; incompatible vBIOS gave no display output of any kind

 

at me it is simple to eat the second card 1070, it with 1BE1 now (there is a wish to leave in SLI with the first card but there 1BA1

 

So you have two 1070s but they won't work in SLI? That makes sense if the device IDs are different. You need to flash the slave 1BE1 card with the same 1BA1 vbios as the master.

 

C:\>nvflash64 -i1 -6 555.rom

NVIDIA Firmware Update Utility (Version 5.416.0)
Simplified Version For OEM Only
Checking for matches between display adapter(s) and image(s)...

Adapter: GeForce GTX 1070 (10DE,1BE1,1558,0376) H:--:NRM S:00,B:02,D:00,F:00

WARNING: None of the firmware image compatible PCI Device ID's
match the PCI Device ID of the adapter.
Adapter PCI Device ID: 1BE1
Firmware image PCI Device ID: 1BA1
WARNING: Firmware image PCI Subsystem ID (1462.11FF)
does not match adapter PCI Subsystem ID (1558.0376).

NOTE: Exception caught.
Nothing changed!


ERROR: GPU mismatch

 

Nvflash won't flash a different device ID without overrides

And the newest versions that are needed for Pascal have had the overrides that used to work (e.g. -4 -5 -6) removed

You will need a hardware programmer to flash manually to the chip.

 

See here :

http://forum.notebookreview.com/index.php?posts/10648003

http://forum.notebookreview.com/index.php?posts/10648146

 

I through CH341A will be able to stitch the VBIOS?

 

I through CH341A will be able to stitch the VBIOS? I am Russian, English badly I understand, so figuratively ponit how to use
USB Programmer CH341A, I will be able to understand and stitch this instrument?

 

Yes

Ch341a plus adapter cable is what I used to flash vbios. Many, many times.

In the youtube video I linked in my post in that thread, there is information on how to change language in the ch341a application.

 

thanks, USB Programmer CH341A ordered as will come I will try)

 

a little something something to improve temperatures

Ran into a few issues with the CPU part of the heatsink, I got too big for my boots and tried to solder the copper heatpipe to the CPU heatsink, but I didn't have enough clips and clamps to keep it all together and ended up desoldering the entire CPU heatsink and it all fell apart on me. Managed to put it back together with some reinforcement (I made them all one-piece style heatsinks to make sure the joins didn't break by the weight of it all) but it's thermal throttling at a CPU load of 65-68W now whereas before it could handle about 85W @ 4.5 on a cold day, so now 4.2 just touches the limit by the end of the firestrike physics test.

GPU temps are good though, master just over 70C slave just under 70C for a ~150-160W per GPU draw.

Getting lots of 1.2ghz CPU permathrottle though, I think when power draw spikes too high (above 500W wall draw) at the start of a bench run it trips some limit reliably when the GPU is over 2000Mhz @ 1.013V.

1975MHz core / 0.975V max / 2275MHz memory, 180W power limit (rarely hit; averaged around 150-160W per GPU), 4.2ghz on CPU, RAM 1800MHz CL10:

 

you just the maniac)))) I thought too to collect cooling on number water

 

I found G65VR 6RE SLI of a curl the text file from, and there the driver stood on it Ansel, 376.33
NVIDIA 3D vision driver 376.33, 376.33
NVIDIA 376.33, 376.33 control bar
Graphic driver 376.33, 376.33 NVIDIA
Experience of NVIDIA GeForce 3.2.0.96, 3.2.0.96
System software 9.16.0318, 9.16.0318 NVIDIA PhysX
NVIDIA 23.1.0.0, 23.1.0.0 updating
Stream transmission of the SCREEN, 01.07.350
Wireless service of the NVIDIA, 2.13.0.21 controller
HD NVIDIA audio driver 1.3.34.17, 1.3.34.17
NVIDIA installs application, 2.1002.235.2016
Backend of NVIDIA, 23.1.0.0
Container NVIDIA, 1.2
Container NVIDIA LocalSystem, 1.2
The message of NVIDIA the bus for NvContainer, 1.2
Container NVIDIA NetworkService, 1.2
Container of a session NVIDIA, 1.2
User container NVIDIA, 1.2
Container of the NVIDIA, 1.0 display
LS container of the NVIDIA, 1.0 display
NvNodejs, 3.2.0.96
Sentry plug-in of NVIDIA for NvContainer, 1.2
NvTelemetry, 2.0.0.0
Telemetric container NVIDIA, 2.0.0.0
Nvidia share, 1.5.0.0
NVIDIA SHADOWPLAY 3.2.0.96, 3.2.0.96
SCREEN the wireless driver of the controller, 3.2.0.96
Kernel of the NVIDIA, 23.1.0.0 updating
NVIDIA the virtual audio 3.50.2, 3.50.2

 

does both of your GPUs fail to update over 375 driver? one of my gpu's was able to run with the newest drivers, so I made it primary and flashed the slave GPU with original Vortex vbios it came with and works perfectly in SLI

 

Yes, both of them code43 in device manager with every single other driver version with every single INF mod I have tried.

Admittedly I haven't tried for a while, and some people have had success in 'upgrade' driver installations (where I've basically only being doing post-DDU clean installs)

 

I mean, have you tried each card separately? when I have both cards installed, both show error 43, no matter which card is primary. though one of the cards actually worked solo with the newest drivers.

upgrade installation only works to a certain degree, only one version above 375..

 

this radiator can be put if it to finish? https://www.ebay.com/itm/Clevo-P775...066735?hash=item1ed5fbc86f:g:H3IAAOSw0wRaOCs7

 

No that's for a Clevo Pascal MXM layout which is different from standard MXM.

Laptops are very specific about the heatsinks that will fit, only those from the same model can be used. The base chassis is the same for P370EM, P370SM, P375SMA, P377SMA; the GPU heatsinks for the later SM models are better.

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/292169023114
https://www.ebay.com/itm/292169023116
https://www.ebay.com/itm/292169023112
these will be better for me? and how it is possible to reduce temperature still?

 

The CPU will lose a bit since it's missing that 3rd heatpipe, but the slave GPU will be better side it has the larger radiator.

There's also the tape mod to stop air escaping through gaps between fan and radiator; cutting holes in the bottom case below the fan intakes to allow unrestricted airflow; and liquid metal.

Checking flat close contact between heatsink and all components is the most important thing, adding a shim if necessary, changing thermal pad thickness are all very important. Heatpipes are easy to bend slightly to align properly, just be very careful and do it very gradually as they easily kink.

The only way to get a kink out is to heat it almost to bursting point so it swells up, and then gently hammer it back flat along its entire length, but as that will happen past the solder's melting temperature it's just big trouble. So don't kink them.

 

advise me liquid metal

 

Google and you will find many guides here on NBR and on Youtube of people putting liquid metal on laptops.

Getting great heat sink fit is the most important thing to do first, you are then able to use less of the liquid metal and that means the less danger from it escaping.

 

@bennyg I have no useful input for you, but I wanted to say that I read this whole thread from beginning to end in wide-eyed wonder. I've been tinkering with laptops for a long time, but I've never done anything as cool (or over the top) as you have here. Absolutely insane. I couldn't help but chime in. Your 1070 SLI setup is scoring only a few thousand points short of my 1080 SLI setup in FS graphics score.

Keep up the awesome work!

 

have sent me the 2nd card on there was PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_1BE1, I have decided to put her one and at me were established modified the driver as here https://premamod.wordpress.com/2017/08/15/j95-nvidia-inf/
it means that the card not from Vortex G65VR 6RE SLI? her stroke code 1W0V106S/002 168K097700
and on the card from Vortex G65VR 6RE SLI a stroke a code 1W0V102S/008 167K259582

 

[ATTACH = full] 153970 [/ ATTACH]: Bigtongue:

 

and HDMI an exit works for me

 

Ok. You have a later revision card (06S). I'll give it another go with that driver and INF when the heatsink's back together

 

I have tried to install drivers without fashion of the file today, have just added the of id too everything works for me

 

even works three-dimensional settings at connection of the monitor

 

the programmator will come, I will stitch the card from Vortex G65VR 6RE SLI on Bios of MSI_N17E-G2_86.04.31.00.0D_GSYNC and I will put her in the 2nd slot and I will check SLI

 

Anyone have a vender that they bought their card from?

 

1. if only can buy in China

 

I thought Eurocomm was selling it.

 

[QUOTE = "владелец dellienware, post: 10669913, участник: 299514"] Я думал, что Eurocomm его продает. [/ QUOTE]
I know I have 2 map been looking for, then in China, only found