Sager / Clevo Waiting Mode for Ivy Bridge

This is the desktop IB CPU's table, but pretty intriguing:



If only the mobile CPU's could get the same 20% reduction in power consumption)

 

But on the other side, they will probably be cheaper?

Well that's what I presume will happen, right before the actual release for IB, the current SB will drop in price, so regret will be balanced out with the amount of saved cash

 

Would mobile version of Ivy come out the same time as the desktop's?

 

I don't think so...

1. I just ordered the 151HM1 last night... Because my current laptop is failing and won't survive until Q2 2012.

2. I mainly run Linux, which has horrible support, actually no support for optimus technology currently.

3. I don't care about backlit keyboards .

4. By the time all the bugs are worked out and the next models are stable, the next models will already be announced .

So yeah, will look forward to the models 2-3 years from now when Linux has support and optimus technology will run more smoothly.

 

Nah, I just ordered a P150HM yesterday. From the info out right now, nothing really intrigues me enough to spend half a year without a new laptop. I don't care for backlit keyboards. Optimus or AMD-switching would be nice, but it is pretty low on my priority list as I very rarely spend extended time away from power outlets. For the same reason, decreased power consumption from Ivy Bridge or new graphics cards don't really carry half-a-year's worth of importance to me. Gaining what the prevailing opinion seems to say is a modest performance gain from Ivy Bridge during the passage of half a year doesn't feel very worthwhile to me either.

Plus, I really don't want to wait all that while and potentially be surprised by higher price tags. The drop in the price of the 6990m is one reason I've bought right now, so I don't want to wait for the next-gen gear to do the same. Unless it's a generational shift, I don't like shelling out leading-edge dough.

Of course, there's no right or wrong answer here but that's how I feel. If this was Haswell and not Ivy Bridge we're talking about, then I would probably be holding out for that to come.

 

Considering I got my NP8150 used for under 700.00 shipped I highly doubt it ^_^

I'll be able to sell it for more than I bought it, and to be honest since the MXM cards will be compatible I'll just upgrade the GPU. Optimus will be nice, but it's not a "killer" deal if I don't have it. I had planned on shelling out ~1400 for a new laptop this year, but I ended up with what I wanted for less than 700.

Backlit? Don't want it

And I can get a better 6 series Nvidia card in this thing soon (and if not I can still get a 580)

To quote Charlie Sheen "winning"

 

That's a DEAL if I've ever seen one.

 

I'm in the same boat, waiting for the ivy bridge refresh to snatch up a 15" Clevo. I couldn't care less for backlit keyboard as I'm a touch typist, but optimus/switchable graphics would be phenomenal! More battery is better

 

I've worked off laptops for 10 years without ever having a backlit keyboard. I definitely want that feature, but to hell with waiting and continuing to play 2 year old (soon to be 3 year old) games at low settings, I say. I think it all depends on how satisfied you are now with your setup.

 

I just recently sold off my desktop machine and am using a puny HP TM2T (in terms of processing capacity) which has every bell and whistle in the book to keep me tided over for the Ivy Bridge refresh... at least that's what I keep telling myself as I see more and more great P150HM reviews come out...

 

feeling excited for ivy bridge looking to replace my w860cu eventually, do you guys know if or when they would support more than 16 gb ram? haswell?

 

On the upcoming P150EM site ( Clevo P150EM | Channel Authorized Manufacturer Showcase) They mention "1*Display" in the I/O ports section, is that Display port? If so that would mean 3 display outputs!

 

I think they may support up to 32GB using 8GB ram sticks considering how oem's have been posting it as an option, although the specs don't mention more than 16GB:

Clevo P150HM Notebook Computer

You can get them pretty cheap at newegg too: Newegg.com - PCs & Laptops, Laptop Accessories, Laptop Memory, 204-Pin DDR3 SO-DIMM, 16GB (2 x 8G)

 

oh yea good point i remember that the dell precision m4600 can support 32.0GB, DDR3-1333MHz SDRAM, 4 DIMMS

But can the ivy bridge p150em have this option or will clevo decide to support it?

I just checked out the p150hm Malibal so yes they do support/offer (32GB) 32768MB, PC3-10660/1333MHz DDR3 - 4 SO-DIMM!!

 

quite surprised to see that quite a handful of the refresh are getting the backlit keyboards.. thought that maybe they would start with 1 or 2 models..

if come march/april the price of 580m dropped to comparable levels with the 6990m, i might just grab a np8170 instead of wait for ivy bridge and the new gpus...

 

if you buy a sandy bridge and 40nm graphics card in March, you must be a fool!

 

It's sad that next years models are still 16:9. I guess I can live with that as long as they give us higher resolutions, it's just ridiculous that my 3 year old laptop has a higher resolution than today's laptops.

 

16:19 are fine, esp if you connect it to your external monitor or tv which is 16:9

 

No, it's not. End of line. (and yes, I do have several 16:9 external TVs).

 

GUYS.... Ivy Bridge CPUs have been DELAYED to Q2:

Desktop Ivy Bridge processors reportedly getting delayed again, this time until Q2 2012

Not March/April anymore....Damn!!!

 

Mobile parts may be on schedule.

 

Considering the issues with cougarpoint for the i7's last year I highly HIGHLY doubt they will rush the production and chipsets associated with Ivy Bridge.

Looks like my NP8150 just got to stay top dog for a bit longer in the chipset department

 

april is Q2 2012 my friend Ahmed!

 

LoL, I know that...

But it was mentioned in the article "March-April as previously thought"

 

I dont mind, I just bought my sys, I am looking to upgrade until holidays 2012 ! to get piece of mind and some good deals!

 

I've been considering ditching my Envy for a Clevo 15.6". Would the 3.1 jg P150EM be around 2.5-2.7kg if I remove the internal battery ? What is the chassis like ? Coming from a high end "fashionable" laptop-Envy- the aluminium chasis does the cooling part as well which +1 for me (80*C CPU to 50s in less than two minute with medium fan.
Is the bios user-accessible ? How are the drivers supported ?

I'm ready to wait until before summer to sell my Envy and then go back to my home country then wait until Fall semester to grab a Clevo. Good plan ?

 

Check the spec's sheet, I'm not sure about weight without the final spec's being released. If it's anything like the last 2 refresh cycles the battery will be of average weight for a 6 or 9 cell battery.

Looking at the last 2 refresh cycles the chassis was plastic, and the new one appears to be a hybrid of plastic and aluminum alloy if I'm not mistaken. Helps in keeping the wear and tear down, but increases weight a bit.

In regards to cooling, Clevo has some of the best if not THE best cooling in the laptop market due to the way they have their fans situated and placed for optimal cooling (2 fans both blowing out the back).

Drivers are great on the NP8150/NP8170. never had any issues with them running Windows 7 or XP (if for some reason I really wanted to do that). Linux is also nice on the Nvidia GPU side of things (AMD is not).

The other thing to mention about Clevo's is that they do not HAVE A WHITE LIST / BLACK LIST when it comes to supported parts! On HP's / Lenovo's you have issues with some wireles cards not being "supported" so they manufacturer blocks you from upgrading the equipment down the road. Not so with Clevo! Example - http://www.amazon.com/Bigfoot-Netwo...dp_top_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1

The NP8150/NP8170 (current builds) are great machines, and the new Ivy Bridge also looks to be a slight bump in speed and performacne. The best reason to go with a Clevo over an HP is the ability to upgrade the laptop internally WITHOUT needing to worry about the warranty aspects + everything is upgradable! EVEN THE GPU! (the Envy you can't) - Upgrade video card - HP Support Forum

The other great thing about the bios on the clevo's is that they are sold BARE BONES which means you can customize them to your liking (almost botique style). So if you don't want any "bloat" that comes with an HP you are set. if you don't want to pay for a copy of Microsoft Windows and have your own retail copy, you are all set too!

Did I also mention that Clevo keeps sending out bios updates to support new GPU's? Unlike HP you can plug and play a new GPU into the laptop and upgrade as long as the MXM style is the same (and reports say it will keep the same)

--ssx--

 

There is no reason to wait for Ivy Bridge if youre a gamer. Though the next offerings from AMD and NVIDIA should definately be a worth the wait.

 

I think Ivy bridge will finally get optimus
sweet...

 

Uhh, Clevo might still decide not to implement Optimus for their GTX-series laptops. That's not up to Intel.

 

They'll have optimus, the P150 and the P170 will be optimus next year, the ONLY one that isn't confirmed yet is if the 3D version of the P170 will be as its setup is a little different. (Embedded displayport I'm looking at you).

 

Thanks for response. And yeah probably I'm not looking for the next intel big thing. I'm not in the need to do a rush replacement, I am patient to wait for the next GPU NVIDIA GK106 line (I dislike ATI now....) and the next P150 refresh. As for the weight, I'll be removing the battery and opt an empty hard drive bay instead of CD/DVD Rom. I suppose that would take 0.5-0.7 kg off.
For the cooling, double fan sounds like a lot of noise to me, nevertheless low profile cooling + implemented Optimus should do it. I don't game much, only a few titles, but when I do, I want good graphics that's why I decide Clevo for the next laptop. Out of the house I have an iPad 2 already, laptop mostly sits on the desk.

I will definitely get rid of the Envy by summer or earlier in May. Coming back to the states in August and get a Clevo.
Does the 2012 P150 look more professional in terms of material (I like how it looks similar to Dell Precision chassis), the pictures on omdshowcase looks the same current model

edit: random question, what is UEFI ? purpose ?

 

is there any news regarding a case redesign? Those use the same chassis as the current line up. I was looking for a secondary laptop so that I can game more than I do know (which basically means from 0 to 1), and sincerely the np8180 didnt spark my interest, and I dont wanna go for the m18x

 

Removing the battery and hard drive would make it very unsturdy...

 

But will they now fix the numpad and HOME/END/PGUP/PGDOWN??

 

Pretty much the exact same chassis design, except for a port change or two. For the entire lineup. However, because the 18" is a little special, don't have any details about the next generation of that one.

 

Thanks! that leads me back to the p150hem again, on the other side its going to be a much cheaper buy, although I know its a powerful machine it still weights a bit more than I would like from a 15''

 

ohh! I hope it offers a 95%+ gamut screen, couldnt imagine what more it would need.

 

A non glossy surface.... So many fingerprints..... I have nightmares about them... I'm always wiping this thing down....

 

Any of the resellers know if Nvidia will have new mobile GPU by April/May 2012 with the release of the ivy bridge? or we looking more like Q3?

 

This is something I'd like to know. Also, someone mentioned earlier in the thread that the new Clevos would have a bit of metal mixed in with the plastic exterior this time?

 

Are the new CPUs and/or GPUs coming out in April, FOR SURE?

I mean I don't mind waiting two more months but if it's pushed to even the end of April, that is too long for me to wait.

Thank you

 

No offense but people should really look around more before posting more... There has been a lot of threads/posts regarding the new Kepler, IB & EM since the last post of this thread.
Here is the most current and near accurate
http://forum.notebookreview.com/sag...urate-speculative-pricing-details-p150em.html

 

No, there is no such thing as a promised release date in tech. Intel and Nvidia have both been known to push deadlines back in the past, so while it would be great to promise, it's really up to those two companies.

 

I guess it's fine, that approx. the time when the Kepler GPU's should be unveiled (I think, hope and pray )

 

That artice is from December...these are the latest rumors:

Intel Ivy Bridge To Be Officially Launched On March 6th? | ITProPortal.com

 

Edit:

Now it's June:

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/c3c3c2b6-...ublished_links/rss/companies_us/feed//product

 

That's great news! Thanks man, I'll be waiting

 

Any chance of 120hz on the 15in models? Dual link dvi as well?

 

I dont know why people are worried about waiting for Ivy Bridge, it will be backwards compatible on MB's that feature the Sandy Bridge CPU. So if the time comes where your CPU needs to be upgraded it will be an option to get an IB CPU.

Also, Ivy Bridges main improvments are coupled to the HD4000 integrated graphics chip and power consumption. But for folks who are going to be running high end video cards your not going to notice jack sh!t in performance gains.