Sager (7280) Clevo (X7200) Power Supply Issues.

Finally!!! a detailed review sorry i don't have no patience to do some like that and that would give an idea to Clevo of the real power draw very nice Sgh77 plus rep

 

Nice data. Is it possible to check the same thing with the "Clevo power utility (called "Power Conservation Mode" and accessible via a system tray icon) "?

 

Will do as soon as i get back.

Also New thread started for benching here http://forum.notebookreview.com/sag...al-bench-thread-x7200-np7280.html#post6806167

 

oh sorry,i did not mean die. i meant trips.ok so it wont trip since the average on crysis is 290 to 300 and the only way the psu would trip it the psu reaches 375,am i correct?


sorry for the questions.i just want to make sure i spend the 3700 dollars with no issues at all.

 

you guys also have to remember that even a good psu is only 80% efficient, so for the 300W rated output it would be drawing 375W from the wall (what is being measured by the kill-a-watt).

 

Id buy my machine again in a heart beat and mine cost me heaps... (NZ$7853.92), keeping in mind you can buy a standard laptop here for NZ$750-$1000

 

man,ur a baller,big bro... well anyway,my psu wont trip if i do crysis?

 

^ on max settings that is.

 

lol this thread, first its the x7200 is fine, then its oh it needs new PSU, then its fine again, then it keeps repeating. This machine has the biggest ac adapter then any laptop before its kinda does it not? Grantid I think by the numbers it seems that a 400 watt power supply is nessasary but could it be the next gen cards wont need as much power? Like AMD's 6870?

 

i'll get to the bottom of it.. don't anyone stress it

 

I wont stress it because im sure you will

 

Wow!! That's way too expensive
hehee hope I'm finally able to place order later when babyhemi's Awake.

 

He (babyhemi) was great with my purchase!

This laptop is the greatest thing ever, but $7800NZ is just asking too much, not worth it

 

So lawtq you brought your Notebook from BabyHemi too?

 

Yes, he dealt with me every step of the way and kept me informed, even by phone call, and I'm in the UK, great stuff

 

Cool! cause that's what currently happening between us
hehee. Great Service!

 

Ok ppl, my sn. de lists 460 and 460 sli on the x7200, any buyers ?
Me myself, i have the money, but i think my wife probably wont let me spend on the laptop
I was aiming towards:
intel 950 core i 7m 460m sli, 6gb ram, crucial 64gb ssd, 500gb hybrid, 750gb slow, blue ray reader, centrino 6300 wifi, and tv tunner.
All for 2527 euro, wich seems very afordable, considering the specs.
And this config should be fine with the 300w psu.

 

The other thread is talking about some shady transaction that mysn did, may want to stay clear of them for now until we see how it gets handled

 

no you will not be fine because crysis is only dual threaded. bfbc2 uses up to 4 threads, but is mostly triple-threaded during gameplay. this why it uses more energy than crysis. any true next gen game comming out with sli support and runs with 4 or more threads at all times will stress the psu too much.

besides this, there is absolutely ZERO headroom for overclocking the system without running into psu issues.

 

ok,so what the hell im going to do then?crysis is my fave game and i ordered the dual sli 480mgtx for that?

im not going to overclock it anyway. and wait,u said crysis is dual threaded and you said if game runs four threads,it will stress the psu so how come i will not be fine then?

 

ARGH expresses my concerns as well, the 7200 may handle everything now just fine. But what is going to happen with the next gen of games and a year from now? are we just going to see the PSU tipped over and over forcing us to turn everything down? Wish clevo would step up and say if they are going to address this with either a PSU change or a bio change ( ack! ). Maybe a monster PSU for home use (like the current one is not already) and a smaller one for road trips.... don't know I just would love to hear some official words of wisdom.

 

You really do like crysis lol.. like all your questions are about whether this computer can run it or not

 

lol,i know i love crysis.my number 1 fps game.hehehe

 

hiya ARGH! long time bud.. that's not gonna stop me!

 

for crysis you should be fine. but what about when crysis 2 comes out in 6 months? i am sure you will get that game if you love the current crysis. for sure crysis 2 will be more than a dual-threaded game because it is comming out for xbox 360 and that has a tripple core cpu that can handle 6 threads. what i am getting at is what about future games comming out?

but sager already stated they are comming out with a solution; either a beefier 400w psu or an adapter that allows connecting two of the current 300w psu's together. i am hoping it is the 400w solution because it would still be a smaller package than lugging around 2 300w psu's.

when you get the system you can always do a realistic stress test. fire up crysis with sli enabled. then also fire up prime95 at the same time and have it stress test only 2 or 3 threads while crysis will be stressing another 2 threads and see if it's stable while you are playing the game. give it a lengthy gaming session and see if the psu trips.

other than that just wait to see what happens if you absolutely must have the laptop right now.

 

yo! after two years you finally show up

are you ordering it with SLI this time? i am excited to see how far you will push it before the psu crys uncle!

 

TO All Prospective buyers that are concerned with PSU issues ---When more of us receive the notebook.... then more of the limits will be known.. and thus documented...

This notebook has only been out for a little over a month...

 

ya i ordered SLI this time all the way... and yes.. I will be on the forefront on pushing this thing into an early grave

 

well i guess your right.i just ordered mine in XOTICPC.here ar the specs:

Primary Hard Drive ~ 320GB 7200RPM (Serial-ATA II 300 - 16MB Cache) - Default
Optical Drive ~ 6X Blue-Ray Read/8X DVDRW Super Multi Combo Drive
Exterior Finish Standard Finish
Ram ~ 6,144MB DDR3 1066MHz Memory (3 SODIMMS)
External Display Video Adapters No Video Adapter
Graphics Video Card SLi ENABLED DUAL (2) 2048MB PCI-Express nVIDIA GTX 480M's (4096MB Total) w/GDDR5 DX11 Video Cards (User Upgradeable)
Thermal Compound - IC Diamond Thermal Compound - CPU + GPU
Processor Intel® Core™ i7-950 (3.06-3.33GHz) 8MB L3 Cache, 4.8 GT/sec QPI, LGA 1366
Dead Pixel Warranty Standard Dead Pixel Policy
Display 17.3" FHD 16:9 "Glare Type" Super Clear Ultra Bright LED Glossy Screen (1920x1080)-


i pray when crysis 2 comes out,it wont trip my psu...

 

nice specs! very similar to what i've got.. cept i got some goodies from my d901c.. god rest her soul... that i will throw in the new beastie!

i'm worried about crysis 2.. since they are so concerned about making it for consoles... we all remember.. well i don't think i'm that old when morrowind came out.. they ported it to consoles.. and the menu system and gfx were toned down.. so for oblivion.. they designed it with consoles in mind first.. and it suxed!.. compared to morrowind in content and gameplay. graphics were ok. but my point is.. i hope they make a seperate port for the consoles.. .so we don't get toned down gfx.

i want crysis 2 to be the bench for the next next 3 years...

 

so is it confirmed that crysis 2 will use more than 2 threads?

 

About Crysis 2, I'm afraid that it's going to be a console port, which is BAD for PC players.
Although I would be happy to own the PS3 version before I have the PC to play it on.

 

well crysis 2 looks nice anyway.my concern is that can the x7200 max it better than crysis 1.

oh btw,the laptop i ordered.its on backorder status.does it mean sager is adding the new psu units we are talking about?

 

exactly! oblivion all over again

 

i just truly hope crysis 2 is the same as crysis 1.. in terms of benching.. cuz crysis 1 can't be ported to the consoles.. very easily nor without losing a lot of detail... the gpu in ps3 and 360 are like 7900gtx's!!!! single gpu..

so if crysis 2 comes out for consoles.. it will be those grafix.. i hope they do an port from PC.!
don't know. i ordered a mine from rjtech last weds.. and they shipped it out today.

 

so what do you think about my cpu= I950? is that good enough?

 

oh for sure bud.. i went with the 930.. i had a q6600 before and that was great and worked fine for all i threw at it.. and the i7's bring way more to the table than the previous.. so you should be fine bud.

 

if you get the laptop,can you tell how many watts the psu can handle? will it tell the limit the psu can handle on the manual?

sorry,im a laptop noob.

 

yup, i will post my finding here. once i set her straight that is.


no worries bud. this will be my 8th laptop.. and 3rd clevo. heh.. i'm typing on a sager 5680 from '03 right now.

clevo's are the best way to go.. imo.

 

cool ,let me know
mine is backordered till 1st week of november.i do pray they will add new psu units.

btw,can anyone show me the link if sager is planning to add new psu?

 

there was no official link to sager's site.. nor clevo. there were a couple resellers that emailed and talked to clevo.. and they had conference calls or something like this..

they posted the official statement from them on here. this thread. a lot of pages back.

you could always try rjtech.. they have units available. and are a respected reseller for years.

 

i read the whole tread again and i noticed the reason why psu trips because it is using sli 480mgtx plus i980x cpu thus causing more voltage on the psu.


im using the base i950 cpu + sli 480gtx .maybe im safe?

 

no offense.... but I cant believe someone with such a IT knowledge has bought hightech/highperformance laptop aiming for very specific/IT orientated customers.

No you are not safe brother...130W CPU is 130W CPU and no matter whether you are using 4x 920 2.66GHz or 6x x980 3.33GHz Still hope you will not face the PSU issues !!

 

Since when is th TDP equal with the instanteneous drown power?This is from wikipedia:
"The thermal design power (TDP), sometimes called thermal design point, represents the maximum amount of power the cooling system in a computer is required to dissipate. [...] The TDP is typically not the most power the chip could ever draw, such as by a power virus, but rather the maximum power that it would draw when running real applications. "

and for the last

"While a processor with a TDP of 100 W will almost certainly use more power at full load than a processor with a 10 W TDP, it may or may not use more power than a processor from a different manufacturer that has a 90 W TDP. Additionally, TDPs are often specified for families of processors, with the low-end models usually using significantly less power than those at the high end of the family."


Even if the 920 is on 45 nm and the x980 is on 32 nm. I think it is a good guess that at full power 4x 920 2.66GHz will draw less power than 6x x980 3.33GHz.

No offence ... but I would expect more from a person who works for a computers selling stores, but you work for eurocom so ... whatever.

 

Uggghh!

The PSU tripped with 980x and 480 sli while running two torture test simultaneously. Two tests specifically designed to draw as much power as possible.

I have had my unit for almost 2 weeks and have not tripped the power once. This includes gaming at high resolutions including 2500x1600 using my external monitor.

980x and 480m sli has been perfectly safe for me.

These responses are getting crazy, assuming the power is tripped all the time. We have 1 person who verified tripping of the PSU.

 

Well, clevo need to fix this big time, managed to OC my 980x to 4ghz on the x7200 with a vcore of 1.3125v, linx stable with highest temps of low 80's,, all via the XTU But the thing draws 303watts alone! No way I could run furmark at the same time, even if I do only have one 480m But I guess i'll never stress it like that in real life

XTU needs some tweaking, its not completely solid yet, I found my settings resetting after restarting, but have seemed to fix that, how? I'm not sure myself yet lol. Close to 4.2 ghz, very close

 

Gaming on an external monitor frees up ALOT of power because the laptop screen is no longer loading the PSU anymore

This is what I have been doing for months to maximize benching on my M17x

 

I had a x7200 and the power supply tripped multiple times.

I had a 980x dual sli. It did not trip at all playing a few test games or rendering a few test scenes in maya.

I purchased this laptop to overclock and game. I did not purchase this laptop to leave it bone stock and play bf2 on high.

I overclock everything I buy, the x7200 is not a stable machine. My alienware r2 cf 5870 kicks this machines butt all over. Its faster , better screen, more stable period. I sent mine back.

I will buy the next great laptop but I now sit and wait for the SB and clevo have left a bad taste in my mouth. They don't test the products to the level of the customers who buy them. But after reading this thread seems most x7200 customers purchased them are old dudes coding c++ so they have no worries.

My partner has an x7200 and loves it, but he has his 980x stock. Makes me mad to see a chip like that wasting away.

 

so bro,if u dont overclock,ur psu wont trip but if u do,instant trip on the psu?
about ur partner,no issues so far?

 

Let me elaborate. I am currently on the road and gaming with no external monitor. No problems.