Sager NP9850 available

also fair to note there have been a few problems with the M17x

Noteably the screens have been shipping with only one bulb on the lower res screen, making it supidly bad

few people had HDD's pop, as well as noisy machine and there is a major problem with the optical drives

Pete

 

does any reseller sell this bareboned?

 

I got mine from eurocom, canada reseller. There some UK that also ship it.
Been almost 1 week I have it.

 

ok nice. i know eurucom there a bit much for me i would do rjtech. but i didn't know how long it would take to ship.

 

I took 2 day of stress test to make sure everything is okay and once they ship it, it took 1 business day for me to receive it. Very fast shipping

 

ok nice can you try this since you have a qx9300. i would get that cpu if i were to buy.
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=401429

if you can't overclock in the bios but here then i would consider this some more.

 

Eurocom will deal trust me.

 

ya they did for me too. I actually got a very good deal.

 

AW fanboy to the rescue !!!!!!!!

 

Wow, they sure are late to the party.

 

I've yet to meet a high end gaming NB that doesn't make noise while gaming, but the Whitebook just set new standards for noise under even medium gaming load. On the other hand, the Asus W90Vp was insanely quiet under load.

 

my M17x is insanely quieter then the Whitebook

 

Then again, you only have one 260 and a lower P series CPU. Considering the M17x is designed to cool a QX9300 OC'd and dual 280M's, your system is probably whisper quiet.

 

doesn't matter .... the qx9300 stays in the 60's and low 70's (i was wrong and put the wrong thing thank anothergeek ) (doesn't help the 9400m under the same heatsink) .. and the 260 is overclocked so it runs @ 280 temps ( 55-59c)

 

Say what? I saw plenty of screens in the benchmarks thread of the M17x's QX9300 hitting 80C. You're saying your P8600 hits 75c?

I've got to see these screens of the GPU's not budging pass 65C during a stretch of crysis

Now is there anything wrong with hitting 80C on an overclocked QX9300 or GTX 280M? not at all, but your outlandish ballpark numbers amuse me.

 

i was referring to Mandrake OCCT pushed his GPU's to 84 and that was the highest I have seen... that was overclocked i think

I don't remember the qx9300 hitting 80c+

they stayed in the 60's and low 70's


i never said my p8600 runs @ 75c

it runs cool, 55-60c stressed out with prime ( 3.2x ghz)

My 260 OC'd to mandrakes clocks stays under 65c while gaming....*not stressing*


I fixed my post thanks ..... tired G pa has been in surgery today

 

LOL, of course it matters...........

For a system such as the M17x that is spec'd to handle the thermal load of a QX9300 OC'd and dual 280M's, keeping a dual core P8600 (which already runs wicked cool in comparison to most other Core 2 chips) and single 260 cool is much easier. That's a testament to the M17X's nice cooling system and even OC'd....you still only have one.

A P8400 in my daughter's 1722 stays ridiculously cool and quiet compared to when I plug a QX9300 in there which even then runs very cool and crisp, but obviously not on the level of a lower end P8400.

 

aye, surgery is no fun, hope all goes well

Yeah.. 55-60C for a super overclocked P8600 is not bad at all. My [email protected] doesn't pass 69-73C after a full length prime But my P9600 idled as if it was dead, and it was hard to get more than 45C in games.

I just don't know about the GPU's... 60-65C is on the unbelievable cool side ya know? My stock volted 280 would get to 75C with a lengthy session of crysis at 600/1500/950. OCCT or whatever it's called topped 81C. Overvolted and heavily overclocked I haven't tried yet, but it probably gets scary in OCCT. These are still hot cards at high clocks. Crysis gets to around 85C at 630/1575/1000.

 

I will runn OCCT now ...

@ Electro soft

since each GPU has its own fan. Just mirror the temps
Dual 260's would be the same as mine

 

Unfortunately, unless the intake and exhaust (along with radiated heat) is isolated to solely that one 260 and ONLY all surrounding materials and air space, it doesn't work that way....

and while you have OC'd it, the additional shaders do provide additional heat.

So even if on a small scale, a single 260 does not mimick a dual 280 setup (or even a dual 260) setup.

 

I'm going to run a 15 min OCCT test at 660/1650/1025 now... I'm turing it off at 95C lol (if it gets there!)

 

Display driver crashed at 80C a few minutes in... whatever

 

well ill try your clocks

get close as i can .... are those over volted clocks?

 

@ Electro

have you seen the M17x cooling system ?

if not ill provide pics

Each heat sink is physically 12 inchs apart and so are their vents and fans

 

Yes that's overvolted. Even though I've run RE5 benches at those clocks, seems OCCT don't like it

 

Yep, and the distance helps but doesn't change the properties. So unless the intake/exhaust and any radiating heat is isolated to and around the single 260.....it is a variable for the entire system in regards to total heat dissipation and the other components.

In short, you can't arbitrarily OC a 260 to 280 clock speeds and say, "This is how a dual 280M system would fair," never mind the associated components outside the GPU that draw power and generate heat and the additional shaders.

You have what, space wise, cooling wise and heat generation wise in the land of M17X's, a low thermal system with a cooling system designed to handle much more. It better be quiet and cool like crazy.

 

i want pictures

 

here you go 7.5 minutes

nice clocks


MAX res ..... got hotter then i thought it would ... might be cause it's hot in here\

NO cooler

 

The dissasemble guide will show you 95 % of the heat IS isolated

Yes i know it has 12 extra SP .... WoW that will make it soar through the roof

 

Here's the stock voltage run at 600/1500/950... impressive GPU cooling for the M17x! you win

 

NO FAIR

you ran 1024 resolutions

i ran 1920 !!!!



Stupid Sagers (i hope people know im joking )

 

I'm not flashing my bios just to run OCCT again <.<

I'll uhh, put up some OCCT numbers at at 650/1625/1000 for your amusement later.

(and I don't think the res matters)

 

... I test that when i get home ....

I need power to do that (AC)


For Electrosoft and Don






For electrosoft to prove separation

 

Try ProStar or rjtech.

 

heh i go offline for a few hours and you get pages appear lol

The fault i was referring to was the cd tray not being able to be ejected (relieably) without an OS, as i have seen 3/4 threads about people installing windows and cant eject a CD, esp bad as there is no paperclip eject

Re noise, i was referring to whinning and other noises that i have seen people comment on

for me the M980 is a better solution then the M17x, esp as for the same spec it is £700 cheaper (about $1200)!!

 

Hey, I'm just showing you that you can't just OC a 260 and claim it simulates 280 conditions, let along 280 SLI conditions. Even with spacing, the point still stands.

In the end, cooling a P8600 and a single 260 is much less thermally taxing than a QX9300/ 280M SLI setup and all associated factors.

Nice wordplay and reference to WoW....

 

yea they do run a little hotter but its not much

 

you have to admit mate that saying a low end cpu and one low end gpu have the same cooling stress's as a high end quad clocked up and clocked high end slis

that doesnt make sense

 

its truly useless


... they still don't run much hotter go look it up ......

I am done with this all i did was provide information im not saying my CPU runs as hot as a quad i never did ....so i have no idea where you are getting that ...

I can overclock my 260 to put out the heat of a 280

 

Hey Moo, whatever you have to tell yourself.....to heck with Thermodynamics, right?

lol

 

Hard to justify the cost of the M17x outside of the US. It would be cheaper to move here.

 

Less components generating heat then less heat overall.

 

Which is what I was saying sans the brevity.

Thanks.

 

i never said it wouldn't be hotter i just said it wasn't gonna be much hotter

 

I'm just riding you into the sunset now Moo. Don't keep bitin', 'cause I'll keep baitin'

** gives Moo a fist bump **