Sager has confirmed with Clevo that the M860TU will not support 44W+ processors or the 9800M GTX because of the thermal budget!

well they told me the bios was unlocked which I think it is....says the password is clear but there are no options for multiplier or OC. Is it possible the m860tu bios just has no option for OC?
Maybe I will call Eurocom on this since they told me specificaly that I could overcock with the unlocked bios.

 

Ja, that's what i was trying to get at previously. There just is no OCing the CPU, period. Clevo would have to release a special bios that allows it, and seeing as how the official company line is that the X9100 isn't even supposed to be in there..... yeah it ain't happening.

 

......balls

 

Don't know if this is old, but the Q9000 is listed on Clevo's M860TU page; which according to Intel is 45 Watt.

 

And that CPU is going to go into my barebone in a few weeks.

 

Will you promise me a topic with benchmarks and temperature readings when you're up and running?

Also, do you have the chassis in your hands already? I'm needing some help with disassembling the CPU heatsink to drop in my T9800.

 

Yes, both of you. Please. Benchmarks.(Encode and Burn DVD movie that is 2 1/2 hours long that was originally DIVX or XVID is what I'm interested in). I have had too many people get the x9100 processors and just are having too much darn fun to take on 'trivial' things like that since.

 

Sorry. I don't have the laptop yet. I'll order it from RJTech tomorrow morning.

The CPU/GPU heatsink isn't too difficult to remove; it's just a bunch of screws holding down the massive heatsink. Just make sure you remove the screws in the correct order. Refer to the service manual (not the user manual) for more details.

Yes, I promise I will post benchmarks and temperatures when I finish building the laptop. I am looking forward to dumping the Q9000 in this baby.

I'll burn you that movie and give you my results.

 

My main question is whether I'll need to remove the fan before taking out the heatsink. Both the service and user manual depict the fan as being attached to the bay cover, when it's actually fastened directly in the bay. This means that all directions are written assuming that the fan is already removed, so I'm not sure if it has to come out. There's a small lip that slightly overlapping, the heatsink band, yet I think the heatsink can still come out with it in place, but I'm just not sure whether that's a good idea to attempt it.

 

I see what you mean. There is overlap on the flat side of the fan enclosure that might look like it can prevent the heatsink from coming out. If the instructions show the fan as being removed prior to the removal of the heatsink, my guess is that we should do the same. I would play it safe and just take the extra step in removing the fan than try wiggling the heatsink out and potentially damaging something. But then again this is only my guess; I do not have the laptop yet to make that judgement.

But I will have it soon, before the end of January I hope. I finally placed an order with RJTech.

 

I just installed the T9800, and I'll confirm for you that the fan does need to come out to allow the heatsink enough room to be removed.

 

Okay, thanks for the confirmation on the fan. How's your T9800?

 

Kevin Jack, sent you my bios (.06S) and kbc/ec (.04) versions via a private message, I'm prepared to update but not without proper coherent instructions. lol.

 

Deathwinger
Sorry buddy, I am in scotland for the moment but I did convert Religulous and Burn After Reading before I left and I belive they took about 24 minutes but I could be wrong.
When I get home I'll be sure to burn a few and let you know.
I will also be editing soe HD video after this trip here, and I'm quite anxious to see how quickly I can get things done.

 

No problem man. Whenever you do the tests it would be great.

And burn after reading is a great title to try it on because thats what I used to test the encode and burn on my p9500.

 

Where did you bought the t9800? how much?

 

Hi I got a question,

I just ordered the sager 8660, and i'm kind of surprised about not being able to upgrade the video card. I'm curious though because I looked at eurocom and they offer the same model with a 9800 GT.... will the sager be able to handle this in the future? I kind of bought the 8660 under the assumption that I would be able to upgrade the card as the gt and gtx get cheaper.

 

the 9800GT is end of line, it is a rebranded 8800M GTX and nvidia has pulled it, eurocom and anyone else who still sells it are on limited stock. the 9800M GTX is too power hungry/hot for this chassis. There is no reason to believe that any newer gfx cards will fit and there never has been.

Please read around a bit before asking questions that have been answered hundreds of times already

 

Eurocom is offering to install the 9800M GTX in the M860TU (for a price, of course). They wouldn't offer it if it didn't work.

 

no is arguing that it will work or not.

the main issue is the heat that is created from the 9800M GTX may be too much for such a small environment.

that is why a motherboard/thermal revision might help make it work.

 

Did you just ask them for it?
It's not listed on their website, boy if I would've known that

 

It's time someone dropped a GTX in there, so we could finally lay this thread to rest for good. I suspect the results would turn out the same as the 44w+ CPU issue.

Edit: oh, and I will attempt to be the first man to install an Ati Mobility 4850

 

Let me know how that goes Kevin. You already hold the title of first owner of m860tu in the Northern Hemisphere.

 

What about a different heatsink???it might solve the heat issues with the 9800m Gtx. Also how different is the 9800m Gtx phisically from the 9800m Gt and 8800m Gtx?

 

I suppose this outdated info no longer needs to be stickied?

 

Considering a 9800GT way overclocked doesn't get all that hot (still under 90C) I dont see why a stock 9800GTX wouldn't work =/

 

Just because people can install a card that exceeds the designed thermal budget, and it works for a short time, does not mean that it is a long term solution.

Clevo tested with the GTX, and with 44W+ processors, and either one exceeded the thermal budget so they have not certified these components for use in this model.

Clevo has not changed their position, and the Clevo warranty will be instantly voided when these components are installed.

Therefore this information is not at all outdated, and the warning to all that use of these components is not certified or supported by Clevo is current and should be maintained as a sticky, particularly since there are those who have ignored the warning and are installing these components at their own risk. Wise users will not be so bold, and should have easy access to this information.

 

Some of us are not too concerned with long term. If my laptop lasted 3 years I would be happy but I bought this thing to use it. If it doesn't last that long I will just buy something newer and better. If I had the option when I bought this one I definately would have installed the GTX along with my X9100.
But maybe I'm not wise or too bold. I live life by the seat of my pants.

 

so i assume the 9800m Gtx is identical to the 8800m gtx/9800m Gt physically???

 

I dont think PCMW its going to combined the QX processors with the 9800gtx if they know that this is not stable....because if they are, im screwed. lol

 

hondero i think that Clevo knows better than PCMW
Clevo makes all the system the bios the test all if they put bios support then there is no problem at all PCMW cant put something that is not supported originaly from Clevo

 

^All the machines are originally manufactured by Clevo.

 

I am going to Unsticky this thread.

... since the new revision of the Clevo M860TU will have quad-core support with GTX 260M (~9800M GTX but cooler and slightly faster).

what do you guys think?

 

agreed

10char

 

ok then.

this thread is officially retired.

thanks for Donald (paladin44) for originally posting it.
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FYI, for those that will probably ask "why is this thread retiring?":

1. it was originally posted for the initial release of Clevo M860TU (aka. Sager NP8660) and an explanation on why Clevo would not support using 44w+ CPUs and the 9800M GTX due to the thermal budget (heating issue if used)
   
2. now that there is a revision of the Clevo M860TU (aka. Sager NP8662), the system can now support mobile quad-core CPUs (which are 45w) and will support the Nvidia GTX 260M (which is an improved 9800M GTX with a die-shrink, higher clocks, and runs cooler).

 

Thanks Gophn...it is now appropriate to unsticky

 

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