Sager has confirmed with Clevo that the M860TU will not support 44W+ processors or the 9800M GTX because of the thermal budget!

if ati/amd keep pushing the line, then prices will drop...when they came out with their new line of ati cards...they made nvidia do a price slash. remember the gtx280 and how high it was. it dropped like 200-250 bucks over night. *LOL*

 

Yeah but thats with desktop cards.

I'm willing to bet that laptop cards will remain overpriced.

Plus with AMD completely tanking, don't bet on a price drop for the x9100 any time soon.

 

only till the benchmarks start hitting the market. and once people find out...then they will in fact drop pricing or get priced out.

 

Let's hope so.

Also, if I were to ebay my p9500 and my 9800m GT, what kind of price do you think I should be looking at? I'll obviously sell them if I get the x9100 and 9800m GTX

 

i would never be quick to sell your stock parts. you never know when you may need to rma it.

 

Hmm.. true.

I'd be the type to fix anything I might need to fix myself though, short of a total motherboard failure.

 

Good luck trying to get a 9800MGTX in your M860TU...

 

Are they not the same form factor?

What's stopping me aside from thermal budget?

 

someone selling you a single 9800m gtx... (speculation of course)

 

The heatsink/card enclosure is different from the other chassis' (d90xc/m570xx) so you can't transplant one from there although you might be able to use the heat shielding from a 9800gt/gts for the gtx, if it fits...

 

Ahh... I see.

Well, let's hope then xD.

 

If it's any guide, Eurocom charges 440 CND (341 USD equivalent) for the GTS and 540 (420 USD equivalent or so) for the GT, and 400 USD for the GTS and 491 for the GT. Eurocom has both CND and USD prices. With the current weakened CND, CND is the way to go for American buyers.

 

1700.00 bucks to upgrade to 9800m gtx sli!!! not including shipping and handling. eurocom.com wow! that's expensive

 

Well I was ready to jump on the X9100 wagon, but now that Intel has announced the 35w 2.93Ghz T9800 for Q1 of '09, I think I'll be waiting for that one instead.

there's also a 35w T9900 @ 3.06Ghz, but I think that's a new chipset.

 

It's about 1470USD if you pay in CND. A single GTX is 950 CND or 735 USD. In comparison, Xotipc charges $790 for its single GTX to SLI GTX upgrade.

Which, astonishingly enough, makes Eurocom the cheaper upgrade.

 

I just bought a M860TU from Eurocom last week with the X9100 and 9800M GT. What should I do about temperatures? Do I need to undervolt the processor?

 

Eurocom is best for me as far as rate of exchange.
Now which config for M860TU?
What do you think of 9800m GT P9500 and WUXGA, i just can't decide... or to go all the way with X9100? just confused...
Thanks for any help

 

Once you have it, run HWMonitor and let us know what kind of temps you're reaching.

First off, I say skip out on the X9100; if you want a strong processor, buy a T9800 for $430 off of eBay and install it yourself, or find out if they'll do it for you. It's 2.93Ghz, so only .13 slower, and it's at a much cooler 35 watts. You can't overclock the X9100 anyway. About the screen, I've never seen WUXGA on 15 inch monitor, but I hear it's a serious eye strain.

 

Right now I have:

ACPI
TZ0_: 51c.

Intel Core2 Extreme X9100
Core #0: 35c.
Core #1: 34c.

GeForce 9800M GT
GPU Core: 52c.

These are the max idle temps I have had while just surfing the web and downloading and installing apps.

Acceptable?
I will be buying Crysis when I get a chance.

 

Those temps are actually pretty good. I need to check my idle temps for my processor sometime. Who here has checked the temps for the p9500 on idle?

 

My P9500 idle temp are now 25 and 30. Im surfing and listening to music.

 

Why would you say that you cannot overclock the X9100?
Isn't that the point of it?
I thought it was unlocked straight from intel?

 

the multiplier is unlocked, but like all laptops, they have to enable the multiplier overclock feature via bios.

 

^--^
This is correct for the Sager NP8660.

However the Sager NP5796 and NP5797 use Extreme processors and the multiplier is unlocked in the BIOS for 1x and 2x.

 

Is it possible to use RMClock or any other software to overclock?
Does Eurocom have the ability to unlock the multipliers in the bios or is that just a clevo thing they can't do anything about?
Thanks for the info guys

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Eurocom M860TU WUXGA
X9100 @3.06
8GB RAM 1066
intel X25-M 80GB SSD
9800m GT
2X Blu Ray
Wifi and Bluetooth
Webcam and Fingerprint

 

YES it is possible.

I overclocked my P9500 using SetFSB

- when I had the m860tu of course...

 

Sorry, no SetFSB for the X9100.

Call Eurocom and ask if the BIOS is unlocked; I know PCMW doesn't allow it.

Expect the answer to be no.

 

DRTH_STi I have the p9500 on m860tu, and i´m intrested in increasing the FSB ratio, even at lowering multiplier... i dont seem to get any info from SetFSB... help man pls!

 

lol so funny, i just bourght a HD4850 for $205 AUD and im pretty sure that probably faster than 9800M GTX in sli haha, its funny the difference between notebooks and pcs, also i have an E8400 3.0ghz overclocked to 4ghz....ram @ 1000mhz and only DDrII....Entire system probably set me back.....hmm....800 bucks maybe, oh but then theres the 24inch dell ultra sharp, got that for 350 AUD, hmmmm well there ya go.

But since im going to work overseas and cant take my hard work with me, im probably gonna get an m570tu with 9800gtx blah blah blah in japan (where i am atm).

End of my story...

 

Im glad you have understood the concept of a laptop =)

 

Hahaha right on boys....I talked to the fine folks at Eurocom and it looks like they will be leaving the bios unlocked for me.

Can't wait to get some numbers out of this thing.

 

Rofl sure they are....

 

you sure your using a strong enough psu? and are you sure your mb is not the one blowing your psu or could even be your cpu....

 

I tested the max draw on my system and it only came out to 300w and that was with overclocking.I thought maybe for some odd reason the first psu wasn't cutting it so I changed up from a 550w corsair to a 660w When the second psu went out I rmad every single part because even my back up psu wouldn't even work. The 3rd psu pretty much blew up.... when that happened not only did the psu explode, but for some odd reason even my wifi card blew apart its casing. =/ I'm sure corsair generally makes good components, but I won't ever purchase a corsair psu again.

At this point I just don't have time to mess around with the project anymore. Having over 1k$ in parts that are sitting doing nothing was really just pissing me off way to much.

 

hummm, think ill keep them off my list as well.

 

What psu are your running?

 

a prudent way 650w
dual xeon/sli/crossfire ready.

 

I actually had new parts supposed to be delivered tomorrow, but pretty set on just refusing delivery so I can get the rest of my money back. I had planned to revise my system and make it no larger than a ps3 and just keep it at home, but if I make it console sized why not just get a console for 200$. If I can find a jasper 360 tomorrow I might just buy that and turn it into a 360 laptop .

 

a jasper 360?
ah, got it..google is your friend

 

Jasper is the new codename for the 65nm gpu on the xbox 360. The jasper model has a 65nm gpu and cpu while the previous model codenamed the falcon uses a 90nm gpu and 65nm cpu. The original xbox 360 used 90nm for gpu and the cpu and was the one that had the horrible overheating issue. There's another model coming next year codenamed the valhala that actually merges both the cpu and gpu onto a single die. That model will most likely end up looking like a slimmed down 360.

 

I'm sorry to hear about the untimely demise of the labtop project; hopefully this will only be a temporary set-back, however.

 

If my 25w P8600 can get up into the 70s when under load, imagine the temps your 44w X9100 will reach, especially if overclocked.

Good luck with that one.

 

Yeah I dunno, but there is only 1 way to find out.
But of course if it's running hot I will just leave it alone. I would like to keep my lappy running for more than a few months.
But since my unit is shipping today I started construction on my custom cooler.
I have ten 70 x 10mm fans setup on 2 sheets of 1/8 inch lexan plastic so as they pull air in from all sides and push it through all vents on the m860tu. Hopefully this will keep things running a little cooler.
Do you think that having a SSD I will have slightly lowered temps within the laptop case? Or do you figure that will be insignificant?

 

SSD still have mixed reviews on temps, but it certainly won't put out any more heat than a regular hdd.

 

i run corsair psu's and have no issues at all. i use the tx750's though. ive never had a issue with them

 

Alright so today I recieved My M860tu from Eurocom......WOW I am excited.
Sorry can't post any benchmarks yet hopefully tomorrow I'll run some tests. However as soon as I got it I opened it to look at the tape over the vents...
How's this for Thermal Budget

Does anyone else have This Much tape on their Vents of the m860tu?
I was gonna remove all of it because I am building a custom cooler and for the obvious reason (at least in my head) the more air the better.
Here are some pics of the cooler....tell me what you think, I wanted it slim and powerful just like the m860tu (somewhat slim). Should keep things a little cooler ;P



Its not quite done yet but what do you guys think?

 

Looks like you can squeeze in a few more fans don't stop now..lol
But the cooler seems like it would do a good job,but strap yourself in first before you turn it on..great work!

 

Hehehe ya thanks IKAS V I tried to only put fans where there were vents, but right now I don't really have any vents cuz they are all taped up. I found a few previous posts on this but still don't really know what people have done with it.
Has anyone posted or have knowledge on temps before and after the black tape?
I am sure the tape helps get air across the whole board with just the 1 fan, but that has to be hard on the fan. And you would think that if the laptop could just breathe through all the vents temps would still stay just as low as with the tape, if not better?
Tomorrow I'll do some tests with the tape, without the tape and with my cooler

 

All of that tape is insane. There's no way it stays cooler with every vent covered.

As an aside, my previous post has an error. My P8600 gets up to the low 60s, not 70s.

 

Haha. I love that cooler. You are going to have the lowest temperatures out of all of us.