The Notebook Review forums were hosted by TechTarget, who shut down them down on January 31, 2022. This static read-only archive was pulled by NBR forum users between January 20 and January 31, 2022, in an effort to make sure that the valuable technical information that had been posted on the forums is preserved. For current discussions, many NBR forum users moved over to NotebookTalk.net after the shutdown.
Problems? See this thread at archive.org.
← Previous pageNext page →

    >>> SetFSB Auto Tool v1.0 <<< - OC your CPU automatically -

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by Audigy, May 13, 2008.

  1. kaltmond

    kaltmond Clepple

    Reputations:
    699
    Messages:
    1,454
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    56
    THX for the advice. One problem left is when i set FSB to 1066 and restart, system just no boot, maybe 266 is too much?
     
  2. Audigy

    Audigy Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    734
    Messages:
    650
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    1066Mhz is to much for an mobile 800Mhz chipset(PM965), with lower voltages... even on desktop is difficult to get those freqs without rising the chipset VCore.

    Around 245(980Mhz) is the best I can get... ;)
     
  3. emike09

    emike09 Overclocking Champion

    Reputations:
    652
    Messages:
    1,840
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    I've been trying for weeks now to find the clock generator for this system but with no luck. Any ideas Audigy?
     
  4. Czez

    Czez Notebook Guru

    Reputations:
    5
    Messages:
    72
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    Does this only work on clevo laptops or can I use it in my Vaio as well?
     
  5. kaltmond

    kaltmond Clepple

    Reputations:
    699
    Messages:
    1,454
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    56
    Open the case to see which one is. :D
     
  6. pasoleatis

    pasoleatis Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    59
    Messages:
    948
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    It depends on the chipset. It worked in my case on the Santa Rosa refresh.

    PL
     
  7. Audigy

    Audigy Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    734
    Messages:
    650
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Abo is trying to work on Montevina models, but so far it has not been an easy task... some have completely new PLLs, and there are not any specpapers about them on the net yet...

    Let´s wait for some info that Abo can work on... Unfortunately I can´t help here, is way beyond my humble knowledge... Abo have been working on clockgenerators in years, so only he can do something...

    ;)
     
  8. emike09

    emike09 Overclocking Champion

    Reputations:
    652
    Messages:
    1,840
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    In that case I shall happily wait. If you say it is beyond your knowledge, then I probably shouldn't even try ;) I look forward to Abo's work.
     
  9. Audigy

    Audigy Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    734
    Messages:
    650
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    You can use it on any notebook/system... just need to confirm that SetFSB have your system´s PLL listed and working correctly.

    Of course you can try, you must... ;)

    Let´s just hope that Clevo didn´t hardcoded/locked the PLL/SMBus or something like the Compal case... :(
     
  10. Gotei 13

    Gotei 13 Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    15
    Messages:
    439
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    31
    Is there one for a T8300 cpu?
     
  11. Nirvana

    Nirvana Notebook Prophet

    Reputations:
    2,200
    Messages:
    5,426
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Not for your Asus.
     
  12. MastaMarek

    MastaMarek Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    83
    Messages:
    632
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Any chance of Q9650 support!? It would be nice to give extra power to the CPU with SLI cards.
     
  13. Czez

    Czez Notebook Guru

    Reputations:
    5
    Messages:
    72
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    Cool, I'll try it out as soon as I get home :) I got a T5600 by the way, it's not listed in your post but... still might work?
     
  14. ferooo

    ferooo Notebook Geek

    Reputations:
    3
    Messages:
    81
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    Hi, I would like to OC my T8100(2,1Ghz) but here is nothing for this CPU. I also tried file for T7300, T7500, T7700 but nothing work. Anybody know how I can OC my T8100? notebook Dell XPS 1530
    thanks
     
  15. theriko

    theriko Ronin

    Reputations:
    1,303
    Messages:
    2,923
    Likes Received:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    56
    TO ANYONE ASKING "DOES THIS SUPPORT MY CPU?"

    This program is NOT limited by cpu but by what clock generator your system has. Download SetFSB and go through each clock generator, click get fsb and if it comes up correct (check through cpuz) then change it and click set fsb, then check in cpuz if the new fsb is working. If it is then great, this program works with your clock gen (post here for anyone else with your notebook) if not, move on to the next clock gen.
     
  16. emike09

    emike09 Overclocking Champion

    Reputations:
    652
    Messages:
    1,840
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    Ugh thanks! ^^^ People have been saying it over and over, but once this page is gone, they will keep posting "Will my cpu work" Its a lost cause.
     
  17. Nirvana

    Nirvana Notebook Prophet

    Reputations:
    2,200
    Messages:
    5,426
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    maybe Audigy should put a warming on the front page?
     
  18. ferooo

    ferooo Notebook Geek

    Reputations:
    3
    Messages:
    81
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    I tried a lot of PLL's, but any works. I didn't try every PLL, but I am affraid, I crash my system because after use wrong PLL, I must restart with power button... and I must do it very offen.
    ok, so another question.. Anybody know which pll is correct for XPS 1530? mainboard no: PM965, 82801HBM (ICH8-ME)
     
  19. Nirvana

    Nirvana Notebook Prophet

    Reputations:
    2,200
    Messages:
    5,426
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    would be easier to find out if you post this at dell forum.
     
  20. pasoleatis

    pasoleatis Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    59
    Messages:
    948
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    People say that your PLL is written on your MB, just open the back of the laptop or try an search on google.

    PL
     
  21. ferooo

    ferooo Notebook Geek

    Reputations:
    3
    Messages:
    81
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    I tried google many time, but nothing... Maybe I'll open notebook, cause I don't see restart anymore..
     
  22. emike09

    emike09 Overclocking Champion

    Reputations:
    652
    Messages:
    1,840
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    Warning to PM45 chipset owners using SetFSB!

    If you have your GPU overclocked while using SetFSB and the system locks, it causes severe file system data corruption requiring either a chkdsk to repair the file system, repairing the volume in Vista Startup Repair, or redoing the entire system.

    Until we can find the Clock Generator for the system and submit to have inclusion in SetFSB, I would recommend against the use of it.
     
  23. kobe_24

    kobe_24 Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    292
    Messages:
    1,088
    Likes Received:
    5
    Trophy Points:
    56

    Do you know for sure it was the chipset that caused the error, or the turbo memory that caused the error? For that fact, it could have been just the hard drive not able to sustain the higher clock frequency. That’s a risk one takes, when not using the correct PLL since it will be giving a false reading on what the actual PCI/PCI-E frequency really is.
     
  24. emike09

    emike09 Overclocking Champion

    Reputations:
    652
    Messages:
    1,840
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    Well I'm not sure if its the chipset that failed so to speak. Could be the HDD, and that may be part of whats causing issues with the TM failing. Hard to say.

    Either way, don't let setFSB fubar your system!
     
  25. tyranus7

    tyranus7 Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    137
    Messages:
    511
    Likes Received:
    16
    Trophy Points:
    31
    Hi

    I have just registered here.. i think that overclocking a notebook is a great idea.. lets forget the people who sais its dangerous bla bla, becauses i did pay it so if i want to se my laptop burn in hell its my bussines..

    Anyway i am here because i think i have some bad news for Dell XPS m1530 owners.. the last week i did writte an email to the creator of SETFSB.. some guy called ABO. and i sent him the next information of my laptop.

    Intel Platform Santa Rosa

    Northbridge Intel Crestline-PM PM965

    Southbridge Intel 82801HBM ICH8-DO

    Clock Generator ICS 9LPRS365BGLF


    this information was provided by some guy som pages ago... then ABO email me back, asking for some information.

    (original from ABO)

    Hi,

    CPU-Z
    Registers Dump [.txt] of [About] tab

    Could you send me this cpuz.txt?

    Next, I examine the PLL data.

    1. start SetFSB.
    2. select the clock generator to "PLL diagnosis".
    3. click "Diagnosis" button.
    4. click "Get FSB" button.
    5. click "Capture" button.

    Please send "Diagnosis" screenshot of the /setfsb_2_1_73_0/capture folder.


    ok, i did sent him the information that he request... and he email me back

    (original from ABO)

    Hi,

    Hmm..., This is Trusted mode enabled (no over-clocking allowed). (Read only)
    I can not support it. Please resign oneself it.

    abo


    So as you can see it is impossible to overclock a DELL XPS m1530 with SETFSB becauses the creator of the software himsel said it.

    it is totally a sad new becauses one of the main advanges of the core 2 duo processors is that they are pretty overclockable...

    Good luck for everyone and if anyone has any news about overclocking Intel PM965 mother, let me know.

    ciaoo
     
  26. vestibule1443

    vestibule1443 Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    16
    Messages:
    377
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    i asked once before but noone answered...

    does setFSB overclock the GPU along with the CPU by default or you have to do something other than simply clicking the "getfsb" and "setfsb" commands?

    and which models are on the PM45?
     
  27. Clyzm

    Clyzm Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    66
    Messages:
    313
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Raising the Front Side Bus (FSB) without setting the PCI bus (which is connected to the GPU) to a fixed value overclocks EVERYTHING in the system, except maybe your hard drive and such. Raising FSB will increase your CPU, GPU, and RAM speeds if nothing is limited.
     
  28. Audigy

    Audigy Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    734
    Messages:
    650
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    I will do that... ;)

    That can happen on any platform, not only on Montevina...

    It´s simple, when you overclock your CPU via FSB, every bus attached to it will be overclocked too, such as PCI bus, PCI-e bus, memory bus...

    The most sensitive device to bus frequency changes is the SATA controler. Values higher than 115/130Mhz on the PCI-e bus can cause malfunctioning on the SATA controler and therefore, file system data corruption.

    Thats why we have the CPU - GPU OC problem...

    The SetFSB can not control the PCI-E/PCI bus on locked systems, so even if SetFSB says that it´s at 99.0Mhz, it´s not. The PCI-E/PCI freqs will rise accordingly with the FSB.

    So what only matters here is how much OC you can do until the wave switchings stop occuring or the SATA controler starts malfunctioning.

    ;)
     
  29. Audigy

    Audigy Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    734
    Messages:
    650
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    SetFSB overclocks only the FSB(front side bus), and controls the PCI/PCI-e frequencies on systems with asynchronous or unlocked PCI/PCI-e buses.

    To overclock the GPU you need to use an specific tool, like nTune, RivaTuner, ATITool, etc. Only those tools can overclock the GPU and VRAM via low level(VBIOS) aka SMBus registers, or via high level(driver).

    ;)
     
  30. oile

    oile Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    43
    Messages:
    609
    Likes Received:
    32
    Trophy Points:
    41
    Hi Audigy you are definitively back from your holidays??

    I would like to know if there are news about the hard mod on the IC chip..
     
  31. Audigy

    Audigy Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    734
    Messages:
    650
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    There are none... simply because it´s only one little piece of an huge iceberg...

    Maybe thats the cause, maybe not, or even only one of many changes required.

    It´s to risky and hard to do, without any warranty that will work...

    Sorry... ;)
     
  32. kaltmond

    kaltmond Clepple

    Reputations:
    699
    Messages:
    1,454
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    56
    I think the PLL of M570TU is ICS9LPR395(KLFT).
     
  33. emike09

    emike09 Overclocking Champion

    Reputations:
    652
    Messages:
    1,840
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    Wow somebody finally found it ?!? How did you find that? If you think its legit, I'll go ahead and submit a chipset report to the developers.

    EDIT: Looks like it is the clock generator, as can be verified by eurocom:
    http://web.eurocom.com/EC/data/m198_2.pdf Page 23

    1. the motherboard(/PC) name – Clevo M570TU
    2. the chipset name – Intel Cantiga PM45 Montevina; Southbridge: 82801M ICH9-M
    3. the clock generator name: ICS9LPR395(KLFT)
     
  34. Flotho

    Flotho Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    1
    Messages:
    16
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    if a overclock my m860tu (t9400) with setfsb, it has 2700 mhz but my network adapter crashes down^^
     
  35. kaltmond

    kaltmond Clepple

    Reputations:
    699
    Messages:
    1,454
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    56
    Does anyone have pin configuration of ICS9LPR363DGLF (M570RU)?
     
  36. Flotho

    Flotho Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    1
    Messages:
    16
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    or for this ICS9LPR395(KLFT)
     
  37. emike09

    emike09 Overclocking Champion

    Reputations:
    652
    Messages:
    1,840
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    The only pin config I know of is 478-pin.
     
  38. kaltmond

    kaltmond Clepple

    Reputations:
    699
    Messages:
    1,454
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    56
    Just quick report hardware mod PLL 200-> 266 successful. :D
    I´ll post later details. :D
     
  39. emike09

    emike09 Overclocking Champion

    Reputations:
    652
    Messages:
    1,840
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    Looks like there is NO setFSB support for Montevina, according to the developer himself. A sad day for us all. :eek: :mad:

    I wonder still though, since many of us have been able to get setFSB to function properly.
     
  40. morbidrazor

    morbidrazor Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    122
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Alright i did now!!!

    I just overclocked m860tu with this tool.

    Taking my p8660 from 2.4, up to 2.6. Now everytime i run 3dmark06, it gets about 20secs in then crashes, saying that the display driver died or something.

    For the love of god i cant figure out how to take the overclock off, or at least down clock it!!

    Anybody got any ideas??
     
  41. Audigy

    Audigy Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    734
    Messages:
    650
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    It´s because of the PCI-e frequency that is a bit high, creating problems on the bus wave switchings... that will create instability on your graphics card.

    To return to the stock frequency, just shutdown your PC and turn it on again... if you restart, it will not work, you must shutdown to clear the PLL registers.

    ;)
     
  42. morbidrazor

    morbidrazor Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    122
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Audigy!! shut it down, wow!

    I thought i was really stuck there for a moment.
     
  43. morbidrazor

    morbidrazor Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    122
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    How do i get around this pci-e problem?? It doesnt look like its being changed in setfsb.

    also my video card is overclocked right now. Dont know if that has anything to do with it.
     
  44. theriko

    theriko Ronin

    Reputations:
    1,303
    Messages:
    2,923
    Likes Received:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    56
    your video overclock has everything to do with it.

    When you up trhe fsb with setfsb, you overclock everythng that runs off the fsb: CPU, pci'e..etc by the same percentage. If your gfx is already overclocked, it willmore than likely not like it.

    Desktop systems get around this by having a locked pci-e speed, but most notebooks (inc clevos) do not have this
     
  45. morbidrazor

    morbidrazor Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    122
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Heres a dump queastion, anyway to unlocked everything from the fsb??

    Also what would give me better results overclocking the GPU, or overclocking the FSB, which i guess overclocks everything its attached to??
     
  46. theriko

    theriko Ronin

    Reputations:
    1,303
    Messages:
    2,923
    Likes Received:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    56
    I'm pretty sure that locking the pci-e freq is impossible except for the most hardcore of modders.

    Which overclock is better depends entirely on what you use the system for most. If you are a gamer, then GPU hands down
     
  47. morbidrazor

    morbidrazor Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    122
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    I game alittle, i mainly jut lik to play with new tech.

    Ive got my gpu running quite hott right now (speed). I wunder if i back off the clocks alittle, then up the fsb alittle, maybe it will meet real nice in the middle.

    I dont feel to good though about reflashing my gpu over and over though....
     
  48. Kevin

    Kevin Egregious

    Reputations:
    3,289
    Messages:
    10,780
    Likes Received:
    1,782
    Trophy Points:
    581
    Hmm, maybe someone should tell him about RTM876-660 being the PLL that works for the Montevina chipset.
     
  49. theriko

    theriko Ronin

    Reputations:
    1,303
    Messages:
    2,923
    Likes Received:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    56
    I've reflashed my card tens of times, and yes, most people find that there is a middle ground of low overclocks on both CPU and GPU
     
  50. Wintersdark

    Wintersdark Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    84
    Messages:
    162
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Just personal opinion:

    I've tried both GPU and FSB OC's on my m570ru-u(2.5ghz t9300 and 8800m GTX), as well as combinations of each. 3dmark06 greatly favours the FSB overclock, but realworld performance is quite a bit different.

    I get higher framerates with GPU overclocks in most games as compared to FSB overclocks, however I find area transitions and load times are noticably quicker with the FSB overclock.

    Particularly given the huge hassle in GPU overclocks for me (must do via bios flashing), SetFSB and Audigy's tool make a 24/7 system-wide OC a much better option for me. I find I still average around +5fps higher in most games with it, and the increased system responsiveness is always nice.

    I don't really like the "middle ground" results, though. Maybe I've just not hit on the right combination, but I've found I get much better results with one or the other.
     
← Previous pageNext page →