The GTX 280M Overclocking and Benchmarking Results Thread

Guys, I've got a question, a friend of mine is planning to get a MSI GT725 with the 4850, however, he's also eyeing the NP8662 with the GTX 260m or perhaps the NP5797 with the GTX 280m. So, it boils down to which card is better now.

I, myself, am using the GTX 280m, from my POV, it's a great card. But how does it line up against ATI's 4850? I've found some benchmark over at the MSI's thread.

Those benchmarks, however, are giving my friend and I mixed reactions. DMC 4, for an instance, runs at an average of 50-60 FPS on the 4850 @ 1680*1050 super high. On my test however, it runs on average 80-100 FPS. Seems like a big inconsistency there, I think the guy might have ran it on high AA?

Crysis warhead however, on gamer's settings, 4850 has a much lower min FPS, which is 11 compared to 18, albeit a higher average as well as max FPS, 32 to 27 and 45 to 32 respectively. I think this has got to do with my weak CPU, which is the P8400 while the MSI has the p9500 O/C way high, 2.9ghz I think.

Other than those two benchmarks above, I cant find anymore to compare both cards. Anyone who has a say in this? From my side, I'd say 4850==GTX 280m which are > 260m. In this case, I guess the GT725 would be better since it has the ability to O/C its CPU with the turbo button.

 

tooo bad for me. i've played crysis and the temps still the same. 93 degrees, i'm on a flat surface, so i guess i'll have to deal with that.

 

93 is fine for the 280m per nvidia specs....
93 is not fine for a 9800m gtx, since it's max temp is 98. while yours is 108 plus 8.. that's 116 max. i just looked it up.
mine would be 90 + 8 max of 98.

 

i still recommend on toggling fans to max speed (Fn+1) while gaming.

and maybe getting a good notebook cooler.

 

yeah, im using max fans while gaming...forget that...even on a cool day...i might have them on...lol. the noise doesn't bother me..every where im at...it's nosey already...

also gophn...did it look like the screen could be changed to a 17 incher?? meaning...behind the main glass if it has main glass...

 

i'm thinking about getting this since the fans are located where the notebook fans are. of course the only cons are the hddd won't be cool

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2030260319 50002120 1276817102&name=NZXT



i'm guessing having only one card doesn't count?????? the highest i hit was 74. stock and it was alittle warm. so if i was to add a second card with it add to the notebook heat. i though since they're separate they would matybe 3-4 degrees more

 

good advice the fn+1 now i'll play crysis and see what happens

 

max temps 92 degrees max fans

 

ok i'm we need the temps of the same manchine you have from someone else. we really don't know what's good til that happens. but here if some advice and tips

now since your stock and you did the fn+1 your fans should be on full blast so 92 is pretty hot.

i want you to put 4 bottle caps under your manchine. and see hot it does. if it gets the same way then you know it's your laptop design.(i don't know how your laptop looks. if it's like the whitebook which i don't think clevo would do something like that then your gonna have to change some things.)


i didn't read much i'm not sure if your using a cooler if you are. don't your laptop shouldn't need a cooler to bring it doen to normal temps.


you can hear your fans correct(i know it's a stupid question but maybe they didn't plug it in. which i think it should be more then 93 if that's the case.)

 

Stock clocks and stock voltage I wasn't hitting 80C in Crysis. Room temp probably 74F. No cooler. Low 70's-75 with the cooler.

Now overclocked and overvolted, I can come close to 90C without the cooler, and in 80F room temp I hit 95C lol

There's definitely something going on Jupapri that isn't right

 

yeah there is something wrong. but i have to deal with that. i can't ask for an rma i live outside the us. i don't know if windows 7 rc7201 is buggy. my fingerprint scanner seem that is not compatible.

 

I'm using the fingerprint reader fine in Win7 7201

the driver for the fingerprint reader that win7 automatically installs is not compatible with the software clevo/sager uses. uninstall the fingerprint scanner in device manager and manually install the driver from wherever the installer (get latest from sager website) extracts to.

 

91 degrees raising the laptop. gameplay is fine. i'll try vista later and see what happened

 

johnksss where are you finding the information listing the temperatures for the GPU's ?? Is this on the web that you can give us the link ?? Thanks for any info. God Bless

 

haha it seems that my laptop was build on a friday. fingerprint doesn't work, and the gpu is hot like in the m15x.

 

usually the specs are on nvidia .com

 

well. im in vista now. the fingerprint is working haha. the iddle temps are now 4 degrees more than in 7 with the same driver version. 186.03. 48 idle temps, i'll reinstal crysis and then see if the temps are worse

 

did you try my sugestion of manually installing the fingerprint reader driver in win7?

 

i didn´t tried it because i installed vista. now i´m playing crysis. the top temp is 96 degrees. 2 more than in windows 7 :s

 

Maybe you were given a GTX 280M from hell. Those are high temperatures for stock voltage.

 

Maybe you should return it? Those temps arent exactly healthy.

 

haha i can´t return it. i live outside us. the gtx 280m can reach 108°C before start throtling, 96 is not bad for the gpu but the other 5797 owners have lower temps even with oc and overvolting the card, i have one year warranty so if this gpu fail, i´ll just find the way to send the laptop to sager

 

90c+ is way higher than the normal temp especially in a NP5797

since i got mine the GPU's temp didn't touch 80c at all
even after playing GTAIV for few hours overvolted and overclocked (660-1000-1650) the maximum is around 70-74c

try to reapply the thermal paste and see if there is a difference

 

i´ve tried that, when i removed the heatsink there was a lot of thermal compound spread even outside the die, so i cleaned and applied a thin layer of as5. the temps are just the same. maybe undervolting the gpu can fix that i dont want to oc the gpu.

 

The GTX 280M will not be able to operate at stock clocks if undervolted below 1v. Your card shouldn't even come close to 85*C at stock. Are there any other details that we need to know?

 

the facts.

sager np5797 q9000 gtx 280m

room temp 25°C

no cooler, i allways put the laptop on a flat surface.

gpu and cpu are stock settings

gpu idle temp 42°C in windows 7 rc7201 and 46°C in vista sp2 x64

gpu driver is the official nvidia 186.03 for both systems

playing crysis the gpu reach 94°C in 7 rc and 96°C in vista.

the heatsink is tight and the fan work well

 

just for kicks...take the bottom cover off, and use a fan to blow cool air underneath it. also leave the back end raised about 1/2 off the table.
make sure AA/AF are turned off.... play crysis in window mode at 1280x1024 and have your temp software running right next to it....see what happens while your running around..listen for the fans..see that they are turning on when they are suppose to. if the fans aren't turning oun at the right time..then this could acount for the high temps as well.

 

i´ll do that tomorrow. thank you john, maybe the gpu fan isn´t working property. anyway i´ll buy a cooler tomorrow and see what happen

 

hold off on the cooler for a bit...im sure you have plenty of fans around the house.. just do a make shift for now. no sense in spending extra money...plenty of time for that later...

 

seconded just get a desktop fan and find a small power adapter and splice it


what i did for my cooler

 

HI Mr.M.A
how could you OC your GPU so high!?i can't OC my GPU's memory over than950，i try to OC it to 1000,always crash down,even i already flash the Oile's overvolted bios,still the same!! what tools do you use to OC your GPU,and could upload your bios to me??!!just wanna figure out where's my problem,or anything wrong with my laptop!?
(NP5797 ,vista x32, qx9300 @ 2.93 ,GTX 280m 1024mb ,4GB 1066 DDR3,500GB 7200 rpm)

 

Sometimes, the problem is not in the memories, but in the MXM connector.

 

I haven't done any thing special (other than a zalman nc2000 cooler), bios downloaded from here and we probably have the same one
So, I don't technically know why

i'm using ntune 6.03 , and there is a new version 6.05 here came out few days ago which i'll try after finishing my last final exam today

 

Each card varies in quality. Mr.M.A may have gotten a good card and flightposite may have gotten a not so good card. Temperature also plays a factor in achieving a stable overclock. Also, if the memory is too fast in proportion to the core/shader, you will encounter instability as well.

 

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Yeah. The M570TU speakers were never loud or good to begin with. The BIOS update doesn't do much other than make the sound signature more neutral.

 

Does anyone have info on the new nvidia GTS 260M? Are these 40nm gpu's supposed to be a refreshed yet inferior product compared to the GTX 280M's?

 

You should search the forum:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=388184

 

Boy, just when you have your heart set on GTX 280m, they come out with GTS 260m.
And the conflict continues.

 

I don't think Clevo will be releasing mxm 2.1 variants of the newer cards? But I might be wrong though, at least with the GTX m series, you're certain that it fits and works.

The GT 200 series are based on the GT200 instead of the G92b like the GTX 260m and 280m, might have to flash the mobo's bios (which may not exist)

 

The "GT200 based" is IMO just marketing stuff. They did some changes to these cards, they did add 10.1., but they look to based on the older cards like 8800M and 8700M judging by the number of shaders.

Also knowing how the new Calpella is coming along, the current notebooks M570 and M860 will probably be around all the way to H1 2010. There is a good chance that these cards will be included in the current models. However, it is also likely that Clevo will issue a motherboard revision in order to do this, but this is more speculation, so we just have to wait and see.

 

According to Nvidia's naming scheme, and their specs (specifically the gigaflops), the GTS 200M series will be less powerful than the GTX 200M series.

 

These new cards are drastically different from anything else Nvidia has released. There are actually based on GT200, given names like GT214, GT215, GT216, and GT218. They are the 40nm test bed for GT212, the full scale 40nm GT200b (GTX 285). Confused yet? Don't be, just umm, enjoy the new GPU's lol.

 

actually to dumb it down the most the 260m GTX and 280m GTX are still more powerful

 

we will find out in time...just has to be in the right users hands is all....

 

As in yours

 

as in anyone who will to spend the long amount of time it takes to benchmark every game they have in their arsenal, using all the major settings and resolutions with each individual driver of of importance...along with running under xp/vista/win 7 and that's 64/32 bit... willing to trial and error ones way throguh the issues(if any) with out blaming every other part in the machine as to why it wont perform better. this is the enthusiast looking to make happen what wasn't previously there.... this person...can be anyone....not just me. i have faith in my fellow forum users...they just have to have the time to try them all..

 

I was just joking, sorry. But there are actually few users who would actually go through all the extensive testing.

 

you know...this compound...when you say it was all over the place...was any of it on the little ic chips, the connector plug or any other electronic componets?

yeah, i know...but not everyone is really willing..it means taking constructive critisim as well and thinking out side the box...

example:
benchmark 3dmark @ 650/950/1650 using 176.26 or 182.XX
benchmark vantage mark using 650/960/1650 up to 1715<--(depending on cooling) using 185.20
then game using 185 and up series drivers...

 

the compound was in the die and around the die, there was a lot of gray compund. i playedc crysis for an hour and raised the bottom of the laptop, the max temp was 86C. the conector plug was fine i checked everything, this week and next week i'm gonna be very busy finishing my thesis in engineering, then i'll make a total overhaul of the gpu heatsink like sovietsunrise did.