The GTX 280M Overclocking and Benchmarking Results Thread

You got it from RJTEch ?

 

Yep, great service. However getting the GTX280m in the M860TU if you didn't have a GTX260m prior will make it very complicated, I'm going to write a little guide right now on a new thread on how I got it all working. But what's for sure is RJTech won't warranty you the card after you put it in such laptop, if $500 sounds alright to you for a card, think about a $500 paperweight. Thread with pictures to be up soon.

 

That seems kinda low for a g92 chip at those speeds. Should be at least 500 more points for the GPU score.

 

I don't use 3DMark Vantage, I purchased a key more than a year ago but I don't think it's significant enough especially when you're not already scoring at least 15k in 3DMark06.

 

I've got a question for you guys by the way, I discovered that under the Clevo sticker that said 9800m - GT2 on the GPU, it covered another sticker saying it was a 8800m GTX. Anyways those cards being the same as far as performance goes, the dimensions are 100mm by 82mm which is the same as the GTX280m, however how do I know if it's an MXM3.0 or MXM2.1, I'm kind of lost between the difference between MXM3.0 and 2.1

EDIT: ah sorry for doubleposting

 

m860 dont have MXM 3.0 slot. Only, 2.1

 

The weird thing is that according to this website:
http://www.mxm-upgrade.com/types.html
the dimensions of this card and even the GTX280m are exactly the MXM3.0 ones.

82mm by 100mm is exactly the dimensions of these cards and it looks MXM3.0 to me except if they got their charts wrong.

 

They are MXM Type III but connector version is 2.1 and now the new one is 3.0. Something like that I think.

 

Oh ok that makes sense, thanks for clarifying!

 

MXM 3.x uses a different type of connector than MXM 2.x

 

Can't wait for the day that mobile GPU will be more universal and the only thing that'll matter is the PCI Express connector. I'm sure one day we'll install GPU into sockets, just like CPUs.

 

Yeah, I've been saying that for a while, but I don't see it happening any time soon.

 

Yeah because the day that would happen, that would mean OEMs no longer have control over what graphic card is compatible or not pretty much, which means that you would no longer need to buy an entire new laptop just for better graphic performance and that would somewhat kill their sales lol. Anyways I'll be happy with my GTX280m for some time, I'm getting 32FPS in GTA IV completely maxed out (with tweaks to override the graphic limitation) at 1680*1050! With my notebook cooler, GTA IV doesn't take the GPU above 70c! Can't wait for the actual GTX260m heatsink!

 

yeap, that's exactly why it won't happen.

 

So before reformatting my Apex, I thought of giving a last chance at OCing higher, I completely removed the drivers and used Driver Sweeper, and for some reason for now I was stable 20 mins in Crysis at 630/1625/1000. I'm therefore on a quest until tonight to determine my true highest stable clocks.

I'm going to keep editing this post as a reference for myself and anyone who wants to try overclocking as well.

700/1575/980 - Crysis crash as soon as a "Paradise Lost" loads
680/1575/980 - Same as above
660/1575/980 - Crysis crash after 2mins 10
650/1575/980 - Crysis crash after 3mins 50
640/1575/980 - Crysis crashed as well, therefore I think 630 is about my max OC on the core, let's try shaders now
630/1575/980 - Just to doublecheck, it was stable for 4 minutes, had tested longer earlier
630/1650/980 - Crysis crashed after 1min 30
630/1630/980 - Crysis crashed after 5mins 37, seems like I'm zeroing in around the 1620s
630/1625/980 - Crysis crashed after 45mins! No need to test any further, 1620MHz will be rock stable! Now comes the memory overclock, starting with:
630/1620/1050 - Stable for 1h 20mins in GTA IV, however I was away for 40mins and when I came back the game was still playing but the clocks had switched from Extra to 3D, so I have to find if there was a crash or was it due to the extended idle.
630/1620/1050 - Crashed in Dead Space after 5 minutes
630/1620/1030 - Crashed in Dead Space after 2 minutes, not logical but probably because it's just not stable
630/1620/1020 - Crashed in Dead Space after 20 minutes, should find stable clocks between 1005MHz and 1015MHz, will simply try 1GHz though, 15MHz won't make much difference and at least I'll gain some stability margin
630/1620/1000 - Stable for 1h 25mins in Dead Space, time will tell if this remains stable, but I'm now flashing the new BIOS and these are my 1337 certified clocks for now!
630/1575/980 will actually be my 24/7 OC because I started losing points in 3DMark when going furhter on the shaders and memory.

 

You've got to get that new heatsink before you make final judgments on the card.

 

Yeah but the final heatsink won't change my max OC since it's not frying either, I'm in the 70c range in Crysis.

 

you gonna get you one of these kevin?

 

He`s selling the laptop, so I would guess no. Look at his sig.

 

The temps look realy good Emmanuel. It`s tempting to get one of these badboys myself. Were you making a "what to do" thread about the theme?

 

selling could be upgrading

but i read his other thread and see it's a financial thing.

 

Yeah but that 70° is only the core, so the memory might be getting to hot, which would cause the crashing even though you're below 1000MHz.

Nope! I'm actually about to sell my notebook within the next week. I have something else cooking, but hopefully I can turn around and buy a new gaming notebook soon.

 

i hear ya.

im about to buy an i7 setup for my home computer. i think the parts will be in tomorrow.

 

I ran into a problem, I had to reset my phone which happens to be my camera the same time (a nice 5MP) and I forgot to backup the pics onto my computer and I don't feel like diassembling my computer to write a guide, I'll post pics the day I change heatsink which should be soon.

 

I got interesting results, seems that the card is actually good at overclocking the memory. Check my post on the other page... Going to fire some Dead Space now since it's really one of the killer apps to test stability!

 

Has anyone compared benchmarks on an OC GTX280m running Dox 185.46 vs Nvidia 185.85?

I saw pretty good gains in World In Conflict going from Dox 185.20 to Dox 185.46 but haven't tried the official 185.85 yet.

Been running 625, 975, 1600 for 3-4 days now without any issues.

 

Any know what expected fps/setting I should get if I have a GTX 280m + QX9300 + 4 gigs on a Clevo M570ETU at 1920x1200 ( Or would I only be able to play at 1680x1050? ) playing GTA IV, Crysis, Gears of War 2? I'm deciding if I want to buy it or build a desktop.

 

I will be putting the GTX 280M in my machine once I get it this week. I'll let you know how it turns out, Xhibit.

 

Well to tell you the truth, I used to game on Gateway P-7801u at 1920*1200 but the performance loss wasn't worth the higher resolution. What I like about 1680*1050 on a 15.4" LCD is that it's exactly the same size as 1920*1200 on a 17", so everything looks thin and crisp, and I get the best of the two worlds (performance & high resolution). Then it depends if you plan on maxing out games such as Crysis, if not, you can max out Call of Duty 4 and all these kind of games.

By the way I finally reached stable clocks of 630/1620/1000! Going to bench that in 3DMark.

 

where did you purchase it?

 

I've been testing mine and trying to overclock the last couple of days. I think you could go a bit higher on the voltage. Just out of curiosity, why 1.05? Heat doesn't seem to be an issue. I can overclock single things really high. It just has problems when you overclock all clocks at the same time. I'm wondering if you could push this to 1.25.

 

I'm rather dumb when it comes to nibitor and editing bios, but if the voltage can go higher I will try it! I'd love to see that core go to 700, shaders 1700+, memory 1050... but that'll never happen unless voltage can go higher... I know the rig can handle the temps, and having the Zalman helps out as well.

 

I don't think that the current Bios of the 280M allows voltages above 1.05. However, if you are crazy enough, you can try to flash to card to the 9800M GTS or 9800M GT BIOS. Both allow significantly higher voltages.

 

Yeah but I for myself have no time to mess around these things right now. I need a stable computer for the upcoming month and blind flashing or RMAs don't fit my schedule.

Anyways if I push my clocks further I start losing points in benchmarks so I'm not even sure if pushing the clocks even higher would be useful.

 

I believe the chip is actually the same as a 9800 gtx desktop. I'm seriously considering flashing. I'm in that 30 day money back phase. It would be now or never. Can anybody give me a good technical reason not to do this? Could anybody provide a 9800gtx bios?

 

You might want to ask the guys over in the desktop forum for a 9800 GTX BIOS.

 

i can give you an unaltered 9800m gtx bios.
and the top voltage is 1.05...there is no higher voltage. i flashed my card with a 1.1 volt and nothing happen i did 1.08 nothing 1.12 nothing. so im gonna have to say emike was right. you can not flash a new voltage higher than the cards limit on a laptop.
my 9800m gts gaming benchmark clocks.

 

so after using windows 7 RC for a while I don't think i'll ever go back again to vista
7 is better for the normal use and for gaming , finally i installed GTA IV and it's running in native resolution(1920*1200) really smooth and it's benchmark got 40 fps

I started with the gpu was overclocked to 660-1000-1650 and it was solid stable so i thought i'll go higher
at 680-1000-1700 it crashed after about 15 minutes
at 670-1000-1675 after an hour or so the fps fall down and gpu properly down clocked so i went back to 660-1000-1650 and I've been playing it for hours and nothing went wrong

here are the temps for the 670-1000-1675 run before it down clocks

the CPU was @2.9 all the time ... it's temps are pretty high so i don't think there is a room for more overclocking

Vantage gave me higher scores using win 7
and i could go to even higher clocks without crashing
@700-1030-1725 i got P7772 GPU: 6205
than i went to 700-1030-1750 and it didn't crash but got a lower score

 

what version of hwmontior are you using? some of the hwmonitoring software reports the cpu temps wrong....i would gather about 5 different programs to get a real basis of your cpu temps...

 

i'm using HWMonitor 1.13

i just downloaded RealTemp 3.00 and i'll try them both next time

is there any other programs recommended?

 

everest is a good program. so is rmclock.

 

core temp
everest
rmclock is 5'c off as well...(at least it was for me)

 

oh i didn't know rmclock was wrong(for you at least. i have to see it is the same for me)

http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/System-Info/SiSoftware-Sandra.shtml
best program to date for my about any system. info. i don't know if it has a temp monitering for all your system components on one screen

 

Those are exactly the temps I'm getting as well. I'm using nvidia monitor and riva tuner. Both are showing the same temps. 83C on load isn't bad at all. I think you could push this card to 700/1000/1700 with a higher voltage.

I'm using windows 7 rc1 too. I'll post a SS with benchmarks here in a minute.

My stable clock speeds were almost identical.

 

Here we go -

Sager NP5797 - T9800 Proc. Nvidia Drivers 185 (I'm going to try DOX's next)

 

nice nice nice Dox will help lol

 

Using DOX 185

3D Mark06 got a good bost, Crysis Warhead bench stayed about the same -

 

The latest driver from nvidia and the latest DOX driver really heats up your GPU. I recommend the DOX 182.46. It`s an awsome driver. 7-8c cooler on the GPU with the same performance.

 

I might try the 182.46 and see if my temperature drops.

 

A driver simply CANNOT increase or lower any temperature..
The only things that could modify it are clocks, air flow, soldering materials, dissipation sytem..