The GTX 280M Overclocking and Benchmarking Results Thread

yes they can...your gonna probably want to re think or maybe rephrase that...drivers control the clocks and on single gpu systems..it controls the pcie as well..changing it from 16x to 1x....others, the pcix change is hard coded or locked....
this is just what i have seen/tried/experienced and done....

 

Wrong, drivers do affect your temperature because they are also the ones doing the power/performance management and some have features enabled in their infs that can further more alter the temperature of the card.

EDIT: ahah lol John, you beat me to it!

 

yeah, i was typing in the car driving down the freeway....lol

 

Lol, I was uhhh. seating at my desk with my guitar and eating cereals at the same time, multitasking as well!

 

I don't think so guys...
Every driver rispect 2D/3D Clocks found in bios,
16x/1x PCIex is due to 3D>2D Clocks, and yes they could be regulated by driver but no changes in temps at all..
The only thing that a driver can do is to change time between powermizer switches!

Obviously I could be wrong, but it doesn't seem so..

 

pretty much gives me a good idea on what is going on...


|3dmark06 16,851/NOOC-15,891-Records|15,535@1920x1200-Record|Single Card 13,648-Record|XP-SLI 16,613-Record
|Vantage P13,048/GPU11,016-No Physx- Records|X5,234-Record|Single Card P7,197-Record

I don't think so guys...
Every driver rispect 2D/3D Clocks found in bios,
our cards have 4 sets of clocks. 2d/3d/throttle/extra
16x/1x PCIex is due to 3D>2D Clocks,
nope...
and yes they could be regulated by driver but no changes in temps at all..
nope.. clocks rise and fall just like the temps do...
The only thing that a driver can do is to change time between powermizer switches!
sure, it does this, but also does quite a bit more.

Obviously I could be wrong, but it doesn't seem so..
this is one of those times...sorry...

 

So the driver could modify Max temp doing exactly what ?

 

what exactly are you trying to get at?

 

I would like to know from you if a driver could really reduce max temp and how exactly..

 

It's simple really, play one game and then play another. Notice different max temps? Because I have. Probably different utilization of the shaders? The driver is going to have an impact here as well.

 

Yeah probably. It's impossible to answer his question if we don't look into the infs and compare them from one driver to another and decompile the driver to see what's different in it lol! This is one of the few times where I just care about the results and not how it's done, we all have a good idea of how they affect temperatures, but if you really want to know, you can spend multiple days trying to figure out how the driver interacts with the card.

 

Has anyone noticed the new ASUS drivers on laptopvideo2go ?
They have native support for the 280M and 260M.

 

I think I'll stick with 185.85, I'll maybe try the Dox ones later.

 

Dox has said there will be no release of the 185.85.

 

the inf can control key aspects of a driver package, but it can only control what nvidia left open in their dll files. if it's not there to begin with, then the driver wont have any effect on that aspect.
example: pcie 16x/1x
this has to be enabled in a few places.
os/bios/driver/ then the inf can control it to some degree. and i think this setting is in like 1 inf file. because you really can't control it..it's os/computer specific (personal opinion) my d901c will not down clock to 1x, but my gateway did. and i used the same inf files....

example 2:
your gaming and you hit the magic number 98 degrees
your vga card will take a minor down clock the first few times or is subject to drop to 3d clocks and stay there till you reboot your computer. this is controlled by the vbios. so on the 280m, it's set to 108..so you have to reach 108 then add 8 degrees on top of that. then your card will down clock. this is just to say that the vbios controls the main slowdown.

example 3: there are settings in the inf that will do the same thing, but one needs to understand just what..

HKR,, UseHWSelectedDevice, %REG_DWORD%, 1
HKR,, PowerMizerEnable, %REG_DWORD%, 1
HKR,, PowerMizerDefault, %REG_DWORD%, 3
HKR,, PowerMizerLevel, %REG_DWORD%, 3
HKR,, PowerMizerLevelAC, %REG_DWORD%, 1
HKR,, EnableCoreSlowdown, %REG_DWORD%, 1
HKR,, EnableMClkSlowdown, %REG_DWORD%, 1
HKR,, EnableNVClkSlowdown, %REG_DWORD%, 1
HKR,, GlitchFreeMClk, %REG_DWORD%, 1
HKR,, LVDSReduceFreq, %REG_DWORD%, 0
HKR,, AllowMaxPerf, %REG_DWORD%, 2
HKR,, PerfLevelSrc, %REG_DWORD%, 0x3333
HKR,, EnableBrightnessControl, %REG_DWORD%, 1
HKR,, MB_Enable, %REG_BINARY%, 01,00,00,00
HKR,, ForceSwapInterval, %REG_DWORD%, 0
HKR,, RMDisablePteCoalesce, %REG_DWORD%, 1
HKR,, DCPerfLimitSLI, %REG_DWORD%, 2
HKR,, RMEnablePowerSupplyCapacity, %REG_DWORD%, 1
HKR,, RMPowerSupplyCapacity, %REG_DWORD%, 3

some of these settings you can see in your nvidia control panel. in later inf files they we're incorporated in the driver them selves..(speculation)
KR,, OGL_WglCompatibilityFlags, %REG_DWORD%, 3
HKR,, OGL_DefaultSwapInterval, %REG_DWORD%, 0
HKR,, OGL_MultiMonConfig, %REG_DWORD%, 0
HKR,, CurrentNvWSApp, %REG_DWORD%, 30
HKR,, OGL_EnableStereoSupport, %REG_DWORD%, 0
HKR,, OGL_EnableOverlaySupport, %REG_DWORD%, 0
HKR,, OGL_ForceGenericCPU, %REG_DWORD%, 0
HKR,, OGL_EnableSingleBackDepthBuffer, %REG_DWORD%, 1
HKR,, OGL_TexClampBehavior, %REG_DWORD%, 0
HKR,, OGL_AALineGamma, %REG_DWORD%, 1
HKR,, OGL_ForceBlit, %REG_DWORD%, 0
HKR,, OGL_RenderQualityFlags, %REG_DWORD%, 0
HKR,, OGL_App_SoftImage, %REG_DWORD%, 0
HKR,, OGL_App_SupportBits, %REG_DWORD%, 0x80000000
HKR,, OGL_ApplicationKey, %REG_DWORD%, 0
HKR,, OGL_OverlayMergeBlitTimerMs, %REG_DWORD%, 0
HKR,, OGL_MultisampleCompatibility, %REG_DWORD%, 1
HKR,, OGL_EnvironmentVariables, %REG_DWORD%, 0

these will controll the clocks if it is allowed by the driver. as more and more new drivers come out, less and less is controlled by the inf's. they control the ogl and d3d stuff, which gets altered the minute you run a game and make changes or run over ride settings from the control panel. the only setting that seems to be able to not be over wirtten is AA..another story in it self...

inf is basically just to get your card recognized and give it some basic functionality...but once you go making changes...those basic or altered changes are now lost. it's really based on the dll files from nvidia. in the old days..it relied heavily on inf files...now it's just to get your driver seen by the os..(personal opinion only)

example 4: just like over clocking... if nvidia didn't allow it, you would still have to over clock via vbios....

i don't have all the answers olie..but i do have a few....
i can take your worse performing driver and make it work better than your best performing driver... it's all in driver manipulation.... they basically are all the same, only real changes come from invida.....

 

Couldn't have explained better. Reminds me the day we were troubleshooting my weird overclocking issue on my 8800m GTS G92 lol!

 

yep! the good old days! im no expert yet, but im still learning a thing or two each day.

 

A thing or two each day? Wow lol, soon you'll have your own modded drivers just like Dox.

 

His avatar does state "Narcissistic Benchmark Runner(s)", you shouldn't be surprised.

 

Jhonkss I've never had a doubt about your abilities!
I would like only to know how , and if, a driver can lower my max temp after 1 hour of crysis for example..
IMHO there is no hope to reach this specific purpose...

 

=oile;4857703]Jhonkss I've never had a doubt about your abilities!
I would like only to know how , and if, a driver can lower my max temp<--yes, the driver will. but it's up in the air depending on which inf fil and driver we're installed after 1 hour of crysis for example..


this was answered my friend...
1: run crysis in window mode
2: run hwmonitor
3: run gpuz/sensors
4: watch the temps jump up to around ..lets say...80
5: now pause the game and see if things change. then exit out of game and see if your clocks drop to 3d clocks.
6: the inf file doesn't have set temps in it. only the vbios and maybe some sort of driver reference.
7: if your inf happens to be working and it is a powermizer working driver..then it will lower the temps by dropping the clocks and voltage. if not, then the temps will very slowly drop.

 

Dox released a modded 185.85.

I've had a lot of problems with GPU artifacts/lockups in CoD5 running several different overvolted clock speeds that have proven to be very stable in other situations. =(

(By stable I mean 10+ hours stable in stuff like Crysis and even Call of Duty 4 which is weird)

 

Did you try using official nVidia drivers? What video card, what clocks?

 

Sager NP5797 with a GTX280m

Stock drivers gave significantly lower performance than 182.50 or newer iterations of dox drivers.

I think the issues I was having may have been specifically due to something with CoD5 because that was the only game I was having any issues with.

 

I think moving to 185.85 Dox actually fixed my artifact problems in CoD5 when overclocked to 630/980/1575.

 

i have to give props to dox. he's real good and he is nasty. i wonder is nvidia would hire him.

 

Just got my NP5797, GTX280m and an X9100, and I get 11129 3D marks out of the box (haven't updated anything or overclocked anything), does this sound about right?

 

Yep this sounds perfectly right. Now overclock that GTX280m, you'll break 12k!

 

i have a question for you guys, is the overvolt value to 1,05v for the gtx 280m safe for the hardware? i mean overvolting that high you are reducing the gpu life isn´t it?

 

1.05v is a really safe overvolt, no risk.

 

what temps are you getting H at full load with the overvolt and oc without a notebook cooler????

 

Playing Crysis overvolted and overclocked, no cooler, 85C tops. With the cooler it won't break 80C. And of course most other games run cooler than Crysis.

 

Hello m8's

First time i post here in notebook review.com

well i have some question's to solve so i know wat laptop i am going to buy

First i want to buy the fastes laptop out there (wen i say fast is really fast)

so please help me with this

Im devided by:

Asus W90
Clevo m980
Clevo ? (I7 + 280m)
alienware allpowerfull


So i want to buy the fastes laptop in 3dmark 2006 , 3dmark vantage( vatnage more accurate that 3dmk06), GAMES...

In max overclock posibility's wold:

i7(max oc)+280m(max oc) be faster that qx9300(max oc)+SLI280m (max oc)
and the fastes of that wold it be faster that the w90 (4870x3+qx9300 all max OC) ?

wen i say max OC i mean max Stable(within the temprature limits and artefact free)

Shold i wait for the release of the allpowerfull to know so will be the king of 3dmak (all max OC lol)

bguards and sory my bad english m8's

im from portugal

 

=clpdj;4886158]Hello m8's

First time i post here in notebook review.com

well i have some question's to solve so i know wat laptop i am going to buy

First i want to buy the fastes laptop out there (wen i say fast is really fast)

so please help me with this

Im devided by:

Asus W90 = is the fastest gaming laptop out of this group with what we know of as of today
Clevo m980 = no one knows for sure yet. (top speeds at gaming or benchmarking)
Clevo ? (I7 + 280m) = this is a single gpu solution laptop
alienware allpowerfull = yet to be seen and proven.


So i want to buy the fastes laptop in 3dmark 2006 , 3dmark vantage( vatnage more accurate that 3dmk06), GAMES...

In max overclock posibility's wold:

i7(max oc)+280m(max oc) be faster that qx9300(max oc)+SLI280m (max oc) = no one knows if the end product will be able to over clock
and the fastes of that wold it be faster that the w90 (4870x3+qx9300 all max OC) ? 4870x3??? no such thing. there is no hard evidence as to the full potential of the m98. and the w90 is faster than the i7 at gaming, but slower at everything else cpu related

wen i say max OC i mean max Stable(within the temprature limits and artefact free) = still no one is going to have all these answers...

Shold i wait for the release of the allpowerfull to know so will be the king of 3dmak (all max OC lol)
you should to what comes in the next 2 months..if your not in a rush.

bguards and sory my bad english m8's

im from portugal[/quote]

 

What clocks are you guys currently running while gaming with the 185.85 drivers and 1.05v?

I was trying 630/980/1575 but I'm getting GPU crashes in CoD5 (rarely now) and mass Effect.

 

stock clocks for me...

 

john, have you tried to look the pll of your np9262 and oc the cpu for benchmarks?

 

yes...but of course, but our pll is locked. i worked with the guy from setfsb and we tried and tried...but could not get it to take...

 

sager seems they spent alot of time sure it doesnt get overclockede to make sure you can't overclock

 

m15x successfully works with the 280

 

tis is true...

any numbers on this?

 

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=384642

 

thanks gophn.

edit:
wow..no default resolutions and only 11.2k overclocked....hummmm.....

but enough with the negatives...it worked!

 

sorry playing re 5 now lol i would of linked

 

no problem mr moo!

 

I've just ordered the GTX 280m from RJtech. Previously, I've seen that the GTX series heatcasing for the M860tu differs from the one provided with the 9800m GTS, anyone knows where I can order just the GTX 260m heatcasing? Cause RJtech said that they're all out of those heatcasing.

Here's a picture of the default heatsink the 9800m GTS has

 

If RJTech doesn't have them, then nobody does. It shouldn't take long for RJTech to restock on new heatcages.

 

It's a bummer cause RJtech replied that it would take 2 months or so to restock. Oh well, I'll cross the bridge when I do get the card, here's hoping the old heatcage could at least accomodate the card

 

Wait, so Arima uses MXM slots? I thought they were using a propriety slot.

 

the .M15x and M17x are Quanta systems.

the M9700, M9750, M17 are Arima.