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    The OFFICIAL "Wheres my laptop" thread

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by steveninspokane, Aug 6, 2008.

  1. Heliosvector

    Heliosvector Notebook Deity

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    I dont think they did since they were not even showing configuration pages untill the actuall montevina release date.

    ummmm.... I said the SSD and the ATI.
     
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  4. ryujin

    ryujin 2B or not 2B

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    when i said you left them out, i was refering to powernotebooks and xoticpc.

    i went to both sites to configure for purchase and they both offered items that are no longer compatable (ssd, ati, one nVidia card) or available (lack of stock - lcd's, gpu's, etc) at this time during the whole hype. i even have a PM from justin regarding the ssd and discounts.

    if i am wrong on dates, i will no longer say pre-order. however, when i was able to configure and look at options, it was well before these issues came to light.
     
  5. gavinh

    gavinh Notebook Evangelist

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    Oh the threads got merged, that's why this one suddenly ballooned to ten pages.

    You know though, Donald, you probably should have made that new thread...
     
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    Donald@Paladin44 Retired

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    Hindsight is usually 20/20
     
  7. JGRiopel852

    JGRiopel852 Notebook Consultant

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    Paladin44 i just am wondering why Xoticpc doesn't seem to post on any of the "delays" and when called they don't have any information about what you have posted about and since you have said in previous posts that what happens to PowerNotebooks happens to Xoticpc i just don't understand why you guys seems to have more/different information.

    If the WSXGA screen is coming out first then i would change my order to that but Xotic seems to be confident that the WUXGA be at the same time.

    Mix signals are confusing especially when one has a lot of your money.
     
  8. ryujin

    ryujin 2B or not 2B

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    and if i had a dime for everytime this was said.... :D
    (not specifically from just you Donald...lol - from anyone and everyone)
     
  9. Donald@Paladin44

    Donald@Paladin44 Retired

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    Please read my post at http://forum.notebookreview.com/showpost.php?p=3739001&postcount=3 which was made after Xoticpc business hours today.

    While it is still not precise, it is no longer a best guess.

    New model ship dates are always an ETA ("E" for Estimated, "A" for arrival at the manufacturer) until they actually arrive in the manufacturer's warehouse. It now appears that Sager's earliest "E"T"A" of August 8th is going to be only about one business day off.

    Then, they are built, tested, burned in and the UPS label goes on them which takes another few days.

    Therefore I am a bit confused about all this conversation about "delays" because it, and any worry about the safety of your money, or any criticism or concern about unforeseen problems, is totally unfounded. :confused:

    Even the arrival of the WUXGA is going to within about a week of the original estimate.

    Show me any other company that has new model releases whose original ETA is met within a day for the base model, or about a week for the upgraded version. :)
     
  10. DRTH_STi

    DRTH_STi can't.stop.buying.laptops

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    yeah yeah yeah. nobody's complaining donald everybody's just having fun here.
     
  11. Late666

    Late666 Notebook Consultant

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    I would just like to say at this point-
    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOEZ!!!!111!1
     
  12. MKang25

    MKang25 NBR Prisoner

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    Clevo is the company that builds the chassis of the laptop/mobo. They then test it to see what will work with the laptop. They then give it to their OEMs with the full workup with what will and will not work in the machine. It is then the OEM's decision to choose from the parts of what will work and offer it as an option for the customers. You see Sager/Clevo used interchangeably because Sager is the largest Clevo OEM in the US.
     
  13. Shyster1

    Shyster1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Wow! You guys really are careful if it takes you a few days just to get the UPS label on! :D :D :D




    Just kidding! Grammar's not my strongest point, either; I thought that perhaps a little side-order of levity might lighten up this thread. :)
     
  14. Shyster1

    Shyster1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Good Lord but I'd love to be your stock-broker! I'd earn so much in commissions from your round-trip trading that I could probably make you my only customer.
     
  15. fex

    fex Notebook Consultant

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    Aww, you beat me to it. :[
     
  16. Ad@m

    Ad@m Notebook Guru

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    Once Sager finishes building the laptop, do they send it straight to the customer or resellers?
     
  17. theriko

    theriko Ronin

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    Straight to the customer. The reseller never sees the unit unless you get a custom skin/paint from xotic
     
  18. steveninspokane

    steveninspokane John 14:6 - Only ONE Way!

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    Ok, here it is,
    I called Sager this morning, and spoke to a sales rep named Tony, He said if i order today with the wsxga, it would ship in two weeks, If I ordered with the wuxga, it would ship by Sept, 1. I asked him about preorders, he said they will ship out first, next week sometime. I asked him how accurate his estimate was, he said he was pretty certain.

    I just want to add: In no way does this thread reflect against the Great Service i've recieved from powernotebooks, as Donald told me in the beginning and repeated several times for us that needed to hear it several times, that the "E" stands for estimated.
     
  19. DavidtheDuke

    DavidtheDuke Notebook Consultant

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    As a mechanic I know all too well how if you tell someone that something *might* be done tommorow, they've heard it as IT WILL BE DONE TOMMOROW. You just can't escape it, some people will hear what they want to hear.
     
  20. gavinh

    gavinh Notebook Evangelist

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    Shouldn't this thread be merged too, Chaz?
     
  21. livesoft

    livesoft BUSTED

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    Thanks for the accurate information.

    Now Im asking myself if I should preorder it or wait for the reviews. After all, this seems to be a reliable notebook. I just don't want to refund at after few days and losing a $110 for shipping and $40 to ship it back (if only Canada was part of the US :D ), then reorder another laptop.
     
  22. NameInsert

    NameInsert Notebook Consultant

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    As a resident of the US: Save yourself.
     
  23. gavinh

    gavinh Notebook Evangelist

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    I think it's important to maintain the distinction between Sager and Clevo, because as some people have pointed out, this forum has a very wide readership that reaches beyond the shores of Americaland, which makes the "Sager being Clevo's largest NA OEM" argument a bit moot.

    The reason it's important to maintain this distinction is to prevent the plethora of "But X, Y and Z companies are offering A, B or C that Sager isn't, got wtf?!" threads.

    Clevo decided that the 9800M GTX and 44W CPU's couldn't be supported within the thermal budget, not Sager.

    Sager cancelled the option for the HD3870 so people who ordered it won't be waiting indefinitely. Clevo is still supporting it within the M860TU chassis, so it is fair game for other OEM's to still offer it with an unspecified timeframe.

    Furthermore, I believe it was Sager who removed the option for SSD drives. Again there is nothing wrong with compatibility, it's just that people are reporting extremely frequent instances of failure with the OCZ Core series, so Sager doesn't want to spend truckloads of money replacing failed drives. If other OEM's do it's fair game.
     
  24. NCG1589

    NCG1589 Notebook Consultant

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    @steven:

    The times that you were given could be accurate, but since he said that if you order NOW it will be 2 weeks. Do you think that means that if you ordered on july 15th you will be getting it a couple of days earlier?
     
  25. NameInsert

    NameInsert Notebook Consultant

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    Read above
     
  26. steveninspokane

    steveninspokane John 14:6 - Only ONE Way!

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    ^^^ What he said I said. :p
     
  27. vestibule1443

    vestibule1443 Notebook Evangelist

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    anyone know if there will be a delay for people in california? powernotebooks and xotic are both outside of california but sager is in california. is ordering from a company outside california enough to circumvent the sales tax? i was within the first 10 people to order it from powernotebooks and im just imagining a bunch of people in line way after me getting their notebooks first.
     
  28. Donald@Paladin44

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    Those that ordered on or about the 15th through the end of July, with the WSXGA+ screen should have theirs shipped by August 15th.

    When either Xoticpc or PowerNotebooks.com ships to any state other than NE (for Xotic) or NV (for PowerNotebooks.com) we do not collect sales tax. However each citizen will need to know what their respective state laws are about the payment of taxes on imported items, and then make their own decisions regarding their obligation to comply with those laws.

    The only thing that would make one person that ordered on the 15th get theirs before another who did the same would be their method of shipping. You should contact your vendor regarding your personal details. We will not discuss an individual's private details here on the forum.
     
  29. steveninspokane

    steveninspokane John 14:6 - Only ONE Way!

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    Lets hope so :p
     
  30. Pandadeist

    Pandadeist Notebook Consultant

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    What I did while I was waiting for my Sager was I went to read the Alienware forum. Whenever I had doubts about the quality of Sager or whenever the wait was killing me, I went and read about how ****ed most of the Alienware folks are.
     
  31. steveninspokane

    steveninspokane John 14:6 - Only ONE Way!

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    Us Washington folk think alike.
     
  32. ryujin

    ryujin 2B or not 2B

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    seems that would qualify as a compatability issue if it is not working as it should.
     
  33. steveninspokane

    steveninspokane John 14:6 - Only ONE Way!

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    Will we recieve an Email, with a tracking number when our item ships?
     
  34. DavidtheDuke

    DavidtheDuke Notebook Consultant

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    Yep, one business day after (which if you think about it is a plus, you keep thinking it's still in production.. then SURPRISE!)
     
  35. jmstewart93

    jmstewart93 Notebook Consultant

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    This whole delay is just ridiculous dudes. I know that it is a pretty common thing to have a delay like this, but it just makes me angry that I was in such a hurry to order it and get my cheque in all so that I can find out that it wont be coming in when I thought. By the way... they never even told me that. I emailed the company to ask them the status and still have not got an answer. I will be posting a review of the laptop once I get it, but for now I feel like I will start on a review of the company iteself.
    Peace
     
  36. Nirvana

    Nirvana Notebook Prophet

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    the delay is less than a week. ie, look at AW, screen back order last week, 8800m gtx this week and chassis next week.
     
  37. Donald@Paladin44

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    What company are you referring to?

    From your comments I have to believe that you did not buy a Sager NP8660, because there is no delay for the WSXGA+ screen, and only about a 1 week delay for the WUXGA screen from the original Sager ETA of 8/8/08.
     
  38. DavidtheDuke

    DavidtheDuke Notebook Consultant

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    Hey Donald while we're at it, would you say that if I ordered before the 25th (I THINK I ordered on the 22nd), is there a good chance it could ship before Friday next week?
     
  39. Heliosvector

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    you guys ask such difficult questions. donald cant guarantee anything.
     
  40. DavidtheDuke

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    I know he can't guarantee anything. I wouldn't blame him in the slightest.
     
  41. Late666

    Late666 Notebook Consultant

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    Oh...
    I thought the "E" stands for Evil..
     
  42. Donald@Paladin44

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    Please email me or call for personal details. I will not discuss individual's orders on a public forum.
     
  43. spexc31

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    I played an Order within that time frame, but my payment was received August 5th.
    Am i still good to have my shipped by aug. 15th?

    I always thought that the date you guys receive our payment is the date that matters for your place in the line.
     
  44. MKang25

    MKang25 NBR Prisoner

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    August 5th thats pretty far from when you paid. Only 3 days from today so you might have it shipped by the 15th.
     
  45. Donald@Paladin44

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    I didn't word that very clearly.

    Let me try again.

    Those that paid for their orders on or about July 15th through the end of July, with the WSXGA+ screen, should see theirs beginning to ship on August 15th. It will only take a few days to clear all of those pre-orders that were placed and paid for through August 14th.
     
  46. JGRiopel852

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    Thats good to hear. Given i didnt order from PowerNotebooks.com but the 15th isnt too far away at this point lol
     
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