Upcoming Calpella platform

So? It's been pretty much the same with almost every CPU line for desktops and notebooks. Though a small exception would be with Arrandale because it will be the first CPU to debut with IGP. That's where Intel wants the consumer base to go to. Shrinking Clarksfield won't reap in that much profit as Arrandale, so instead of spending time on it, they would rather put their money and time into Sandy Bridge R&D. That's where the real quad cores will start to shine, even at the entry level.

 

No its not. The will be Core i7 620UM and 640UM replace some current SU (SU9300/9400/9600 for example) processors. Core i7 simply means the processor has 4mb of L3 cache, Core i5 means 3mb of L2 cache.

 

Amazing info!

Looks like I'll have to wait for Arrandale CPUs with P57!

 

I see you already have your eye on those dual core Arrandale's with IGP, sohail99.

 

I've decided to wait for the new GPUs, instead of CPUs.

 

Those Intel s

From Fudzilla:
"However, don't hold your breath when it comes to USB 3.0 support, as Intel isn't exactly in a rush to put its weight behind the new standard. According to EE Times, Intel won't support USB 3.0 in its chipsets until some point in 2011, and vendors who opt to add it to their motherboards will have to turn to costly third party controllers. "

http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/16080/1/

I guess no USB 3.0 this year for Clevo or any other laptop manufacturer.

 

How about Intel "final N" and Bluetooth 3.0? Will those be implemented soon?

 

I have no idea kevin, I haven't read or heard anything about it yet

I am starting to think that this thread would fit better in the news and reviews section... but then again, I usually lurk just in the Clevo section. It's up to the moderators.

 

According to that, assuming max clock speed to 3.06Ghz for the q820, we get
a performance improvement of 4.7% for the same clock speed

 

The arrandale's highest clocked CPU is 2 cores at 2.66 ghz. How will this compare with my 2 cores at 2.8ghz???

 

T9600 @ 2.8GHz = Apollo
620M @ 2.66GHz = Drago

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Then who's ROCKY?
YO!ADDDDRRRIEEEEENE!

 

answer: Core i7-975 (technically a different weight class but whatthehella)

 

Has anyone noticed that all Arrandale CPU's are in pairs of two: x20 and x40 except the top ones which is just the 620M.

Guess, we should also expect a 640M at 2.8 Ghz and 35W.Too bad it won't be released in January.

 

Found this on eBay. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...8&Category=164&_trkparms=algo=LVI&its=I&otn=1

What is it?

 

Impossible to tell... Looks like something which will never be commercially available. 45nm and 2 cores is something which Intel will not make for notebooks. But who knows, maybe CPU-Z is just reading the numbers wrong or it is a CPU we haven't heard of yet.

 

In other news, from the informations I am gathering it looks like 17th of January is the most likely date for Arrandale's official lunch.

 

All indications I've seen say Arrandale will work with PM55 albeit w/ no IGP support.

 

We shall see, although such a scenario doesn't make sense for notebook makers. They will be paying for an IGP without having its benefits and still be forced to buy a dedicated video card.

 

I don't think it is something the the OEMs will use. In fact, I would think most OEMs are not going to update their PM55 bios to support Arrandale(assuming a bios update is needed in the first place). However, hardware support does seem to be there.
I have a feeling Clevo will support it as they cater to power users.

 

That's a strange bird right there.

Dual Core
Right in between the 820 and 920 speed wise (1.73 / 1.87 / 2.0)
4mb cache, but 16-way like the 820 and 920
QPI same as 820/920

With bin increasing, I wonder what it peaks at with both cores going.

Wonder if it is unlocked?

Interesting.

 

Interesting that they say that it's OEM, but cpu-z says otherwise...

 

Looks physically like an arrandale cpu but the cpu-z readings say otherwise.

 

More news from Fudzilla:

The i7 640UM designed for ultra thin laptops is going to cost $304 / 1.2 GHz/ TB to 2.26 GHz.

What is more important is that apparently, Intel has dropped the P57 naming for its chipset and the new Intel chipsets for Arrandale are called H55. Probably Intel has managed to minimize the differences between chipsets (P55 / P57) and as it was earlier stated (dalingrin), the current Clarksfield CPUs will work on the H55 Chipset and that the Arrandale CPUs will work on the P55 (but without the integrated graphics).

Altough what remains puzzling is that the Arrandale CPUs use 1066 Mhz FSB while Clarksfield uses 1333 MHz ... how will the chipsets deal with that if they are so similar?

 

Does the integrated graphics on arrandale even matter much for clevo users? It might save some battery time in 2D but how many will be using their notebooks without a power outlet near by?

 

I am one of them and my friends that use Clevos are also among them.

 

More news on Calpella:
http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20091112PD202.html

Is it just me or does this mean there will be a refresh of the Calpella platform in q3 2010:

"3Q10

Two Calpella-based Intel CPUs for mid-range;

several Calpella and Montevina-based CPUs for entry-level;

and an upgraded Intel single-core Celeron CPU"

 

There's always been plans to refresh the i7 mobile quads to 32 nm as part of Westmere in the 2nd half of 2010.

Arrandale itself was technically supposed to be the tock refresh on Auburndale which is the dualcore version of Clarksfield that never got released....so the quads are still due for their tock.

 

It's official. Arrandale coming 3rd of January!

Initial post updated, the most expensive Arrandale will be $332.

http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/16642/1/

 

Too bad M980NU does not support i7 Probably 6-12 months until we will see a laptop with SLI and i7, but that is just me guessing

 

How does the arrandale cpu compare with the clarksfield one in terms of performance. Will most the range beat out say a 720qm or 820qm? I understand that these are only dual core cpu's, so does that mean for any arrandale cpu with speed of 2.4ghz+ it will beat a 720qm which when running on two cores?

 

The pricing of the 720qm and of the high-end Arrandale is very similar. In applications which are not heavily multi-core optimised the Arrandale will do better. In applications very well optimised for multi-threading (like video encoding) the 720qm will win but by a small margin. On top of that, the Arrandale has a 35W TDP (including the GPU) compared to the 45W of the 4 cores i7. If you take all these factors into consideration, overall the top of the line Arrandale is better than the 720qm but worse than the 820QM. Also Arrandale remains the best for single-threaded applications, even better than the 920XM due to the ability to turbo boost more.

If you would have to buy your laptop for gaming and have to choose between the 720qm and the Arrandale 620M, I would definitely say the Arrandale is better. But any other CPU better than the 720qm will be superior.

There is another thing to bare in mind. All of the Arrandale CPU's come in pairs named x40 and x20, except the top of the line. It's just a guess based on previous Intel marketing, but it is possible that there will be a 2.8 Ghz Arrandale released later.

I hope that clarifies things.

 

Thank you! Exactly what I wanted to know and well put.

 

35W puts the Arrandale in the grasp of Macbook refreshes. The Mac faithful will be very happy to see that.

Still, 35W for dual core vs. 45W for Quad core is Core 2 duo and Core 2 Quad all over again TDP wise (sans the 920XM). In addition, like the mobile Core 2's, the dual cores always ran faster than the quad cores (T9900 @ 3.06ghz vs. QX9300 @ 2.53ghz).

You, again, end up with the "low end quad vs. high end dual" argument (Q9000 @ 2.0ghz vs. T9900 @ 3.06ghz) and similar.

Lesser cache than the 820/920.

If your apps are multi-threaded and can take advantage of real cores @ 4, the "low end" 720 will still beat or draw even with the top of the line Arrandale @ 2.66ghz (assuming the Arrandale can achieve a 1-2 bin jump @ 2 cores working or it loses outright).

The 820 and 920 are just flat out more powerful unless you have laden with limited thread applications and then it depends on what type.

If power consumption is an issue for you (which for many seeking better battery life the 45w and 55w 720/820 and 920 are slurping it down), the Arrandale becomes somewhat more attractive but for real battery life you need to wait for the next iteration with sub 30w consumption levels.

Same argument (dual core vs. Quad core), different architecture. If your applications are heavily multi-threaded, go with quad cores, else entertain dual cores even as the industry continues to move to more dynamic core support.

 

Arrandale is 35W including the IGP core so the power difference between it and the mobile i7 quads is a bit wider than it seems.

 

I found two nice deals on ebay; should be perfect for those buying W860CU or W870CU barebones.

720QM
http://cgi.ebay.com/Intel-Core-i7-7...aptopMotherboards_CPUs_CA?hash=item45ef99de55

820QM
http://cgi.ebay.com/Intel-Core-i7-8...aptopMotherboards_CPUs_CA?hash=item45ef99d9b3

The lowest prices I had found so far for OEM 720QM and 820QM were 400$ and 600$ respectively.

 

You will probably not be able to get them any cheaper than this. If you would look at the first post you would see that the value at which Intel sells them is very close to these Ebay prices.

 

The ES 920XM's are starting to pop up on eBay. $800 is still a bit on the steep side. http://cgi.ebay.com/New-Intel-Core-...80QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCPUs?hash=item2557992024

 

Yeah, saw that one too.. B1 means batch 1?

 

B1 is the revision. It has nothing to do with what batch it is from.

 

800$ is still a big price... that guy prices it like that b/c he is the only one offering an ES 920xm. I would wait until people come with better offers.

 

So tell me why is it that i bought the Qosmio x505 and my friend configured to enable all eight cores and once more i rarely see a difference between many things, i want to know how can i truly push this machine to its limit?

 

@ freedom16 : I am not sure what you mean.

I've seen this news yesterday but Fudzilla has more details on it:
http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/16673/1/

Intel is making a 48 core CPU and aiming a to do a 80 core one as well. This looks very similar to Nvidia's CUDA. Hopefully Intel will not win this battle, 'cause otherwise we will all be paying an arm and a leg for future notebooks.

 

Ah. So for every sspec, there can be many revisions?

 

You'll have to run a benchmark or some other extremely CPU intensive program to see the difference. Other than benchmarks, the only things available to the general public that will usually push a processor extremely hard is video or photo encoding and editing.

 

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250540441519&ssPageName=ADME:X:AAQ:US:1123

That guy has some 920XM also. He sells them for $629. I think he has only one left because I bought the first one

 

Arrandale to support HD Audio.

http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/16723/1/

 

That´s a lot of money.....In late Sep i can get 920 QS for 410USD.

 

Here you go:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/04/intels-arrandale-and-clarkdale-cpus-get-benchmarked-for-your-en/

It's all official now.

 

Think I'd go with the dual-core i7-620M as my CPU of choice.