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The AMD 7k line is supposed to support Rambus XDR2 memory. Does anyone know if the nVidia 600 series is using XDR2 or GDDR5?

 

I'm sure AMD dropped XDR2 from the 7k series at the last minute, back in December. It was too expensive to implement, and wasn't prepared for the high volume of mass production.

They may try again with the 8000s.

 

Rambus memory ... :drool:

 

My god, this gives me a deja-vu!!

This exact thing has already been discussed back in november, yes as stated by the glorious Kevin

Why AMD wont use XDR2 for HD7900 - NVIDIA Forums

Read some of the "newer" pages to get on track, but it's just to expensive to implement.

 

I was being sarcastic at the subliminal marketing hype which I have thought we had already left behind us.
Unless you have a contract that says your Clevo is upgradeable post-sale, Clevo is not upgradeable if you want to keep your arms and legs with you.

 

nVidia just signed a contract with Rambus:

News Headlines

Of course this was after they settled the lawsuit, but regardless; AMD better figure something out, because 256 bit or not, XDR2 will stomp GDDR5.

Do we know if nVidia will sport Rambus with the 600 series? We all know nVidia isn't afraid to charge more, and AMD already has the jump on the new gen; so they can push back the release another month or more.

 

okay benchmarks are proven as fake!

 

The PS3 also used XDR memory in conjunction with an Nvidia GPU, so that could have an impact on the next playstation as well.

 

Is there any rumblings of a release time frame?

 

We'll find out at CeBIT.

 

Got $2000 ready. AMD, Intel, Nvidia, Clevo...

COME AT ME BROS!

 

3500$ here, it's going to be godlike!

 

$1100 for cpu
$1400 for gpu
$2000 for barebone chasiss
disappointed with 670/675m..........waiting for gtx680m

 

$3000 here only if the perf/quality per $ is reasonable, e.g. dont think the upgrade 2920xm is worth it.

 

word, especially in my case id only upgrade to a 680M if the performace gain is 20% or more. throw in a QS 2860QM for best bang / buck and im set for the next year

edit: lol, btw nice writings there in white font

 

this is what i think.

 

I really don't think there is anything to be disappointed in. There are no hard facts at all on what these chips are, or how they will actually perform. We don't have a complete picture, or even a unit to run a test or benchmark on. Its all speculation and Photoshop at this point.

There are no 28nm parts on the 500 series side to re-badge that i'm aware of. Unless im misunderstanding?

 

I think it's pretty real that the 600 series is just a rebadging.

 

I don't think that Kepler has actually been revealed yet.

 

I agree, I think it would be way too fast to call the 600m series a rebadge

it could be, but lets be sure on it if we have real facts and not only random pictures from chinese/tawainese forums

 

I'm almost positive. It's still using the GF114 architecture. They're relying on the 28nm dye(sp) for performance gains, which will work. Fermi is a great architecture, and they're cutting the dye size nearly in half from 45nm.

 

Hopefuly the 680m is kepler and is released by april, cause i don't think i can wait till july lol.

http://www.bestgaminglaptop.net/news/nvidia-28nm-mobile-gpu-plans-revealed/

 

We will find out at Cebit, i figure. If there is nothing on the floor to show the 680 or 670 in action, then i would be hesitant to expect to see it until mid-to-late summer.

The first weeks of march, the machines almost have to be in the warehouse (or parts bin) for an April release.

 

This might answer a few questions:

Complete Nvidia Kepler GPU Lineup Leaked

GK110(Kepler)

No Rambus

Even Tom's is skeptical though. There are those in the world that will fabricate these kinds of "Leaks " just to get a few hits on their site.

 

The GTX 680M has been assumed a Summer launch since the very beginning. It certainly won't be appearing in April.

 

So all this talk about Kepler releasing Q2 is BS, it was actually a 500 series rebadge that was thought to be Kepler?

Hopefully they're at least on an MXM 3.0B board for possible upgrades

 

Well 670M and 675M are Q2, and yes, we thought they were Kepler. As it turns out, they appear to be 28nm refreshes of the GTX 500M series.

 

And still more expensive too .

So can we assume that there will be multiple Keplers? Like 685m 690m I have not seen 590m or 585m.

 

At this point, I wouldn't expect to see mobile Kepler until the GTX 700M series comes around.

At least AMD's 7900M chips are really coming from the desktop 7000 series, and they're coming in April.

 

Do you believe it's worth a wait over a 675m? I really am hoping to be able to upgrade in the future, but I can't find any 580m MXM boards that are being sold for under $1k and only two retailers at that, I think this might be the case for Kepler . Even then, I see other MXM boards being sold for other GPUs(560m, 6970) but they're specified for other notebooks like Alienware, I'm afraid to buy one and it not be compatible.

Also, should the 675m have a lot of room for OC if it's on a MXM 3.0B slot/board and a 75W TDP and 28nm process?

 

I don't know whether you should wait for it. Just going off of what I know right now, I would completely ignore the GTX 600M and instead look forward to the 7900M.

Nvidia's fastest GPUs are always ridiculously expensive to buy, and that will never change.

Finally, Clevo compatible cards are extremely easy to purchase; Sager, ProStar, RJTech, and Eurocom can all be contacted about aftermarket GPU purchases.

 

Oh, I did not know that,thanks!!

Wouldn't having a AMD card injure my PhysX performance?

 

PhysX is dead. Maybe one game will use it this year, and that only because Nvidia pays them to do so.

 

Ahh I see it's a gimmick good.

 

Bollocks to PhysX.... but what about Optimus?

 

remember aida64 chart?


remember x7200 samples? left:7690m, amd demo. right:7900m cf, alien vs predator 2

 

Hmm I'm fine without it as long as I still can switch to integrated, doesn't need to be instant .

 

That I can't say. It will either work with the new Optimus or may require manual switching.

 

Thanks man. Haven`t seen that screenshot before. 90% probability that 670M and 675M have Fermi cores. Same crappy GF114 as 570M/580M use.

What now Nvidia?

 

I don't want to wait I want a new laptop now but I hate rebadges that cost more than the derivatives. I think I'll just go with the 6990m until I can buy a Kepler MXM board, wonder how much that will ring up from Clevo resellers .

 

That was very interesting that you checked the aida release notes!
There is some more info! The Geforce 640 is also a gf116 rebadge such as the 620m..

Now where is our 650m ? I really want to know if its a rebadge !

 

One thing is clear: GT 650M comes with Optimus.

 

Fixed your post

 

Gamba66, that is entirely debatable. Unless, of course, you want a wireless display...

 

They're all rebadges aren't they . . ?

 

That GT 640 is a desktop card, but it doesn't bode well for the 640M or 650M being anything special.

 

Why haven`t we heard any details about mobile GCN or Kepler? I mean, 7970/7950 are already here, 670Ti and all the GK cores have been leaked to death, where on earth is the little details about mobile GPUs?

So freaking frustrating

 

Sometime I wonder if they keep us in the dark on purpose to intentionally build hype for viral marketing.

Those sneaky, illegitimate sons!

 

Nothing to wonder about. It's all part of the plan.. hehe

Die hard fanboys would gladly buy the strongest newest card released, just to have a even stronger one on the market a few month later, business at it's best.

 

I think a lot of people are confused that Ivy Bridge = 6XX / 79XX Series GPU launches. They are 3 different companies that will release their products on different timetables. You will see plenty of Ivy Bridge PCs with 5xx Series GPUs as well as some Sandy Bridge Machines with 6xx Series stuff.