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I would be highly surprised to see a sandy bridge machine with any 600/7000 chips, excluding the Envy 15 that was released on the 7690m. Ivy Bridge will almost be sure to come with 6xx and 7xxx series only.

 

Newer clevos built by santech start shipping march 19 and they are all Sandy's althought they mount the newer panther point/chief river hm67 motherboard.
They come with gtx675m as the only gpu available.
That means that ivy bridge will be using the same socket as Sandy so there's a good chance that sandy mobos will be compatible with ivy as well, like it's already happening with desktop lga1155.

 

HM77 is the new chipset, I have never heard of Santech so I don't know how true that is, but considering the 675m looks to be a 28nm 580m it's not exactly surprising, or a true 600 series I guess.

 

Yeah I meant hm77 but got confused. Santech is reliable as Sager in Italy, they're in business since 10 years or more now.
Specs are online and newer systems are up to configure, take a look at it santech.it .
Anyway yep the 675m is 100% a rebadged 580m, I only hope that the smaller die helps reaching higher clocks on par with 560ti.
Those 200 MHz on core and ram really are a gap compared to desktop version.

 

Yeah looks like you can configure with the 675M. I'm hopeful for April for Ivy Bridge and word on Kepler release date.

 

GTX675M seems like a pretty card, even if its not kepler, but 28nm fermi, with +25-30% speed boost over GTX580M (and consider some 900/2000Mhz OC)
it could compete with AMD 7000 series with ease, IMHO. That means that GTX680M could be the new mobile flagship this year)

 

disappointed again......gtx675m=gtx580m..........all spec are the same(384sp.256bit 2gb.620/750mhz)
renamed core=n13e-gs1, id=10de-1212

 

Sandy mobos won't be compatible with ivy unless they got a bios/firmware upgrade.

Of coz Clevo won't do the upgrade as they have H7*M machines on sale.

 

DGDXGDG, even the clocks are the same? no good... may be we could see Kepler in GTX700M series then sometime in Q3/Q4 2012. Can't understand Nvidia's move in mobile segment, just rebrandidng. Hope AMD chooses different approach!

 

Is it known for certain that the gtx 660m-670m-675m are just rebranded gtx 5xx cards? Did they undergo a die shrink but retain the fermi architecture? Will they retain the same prices as current nvidia offerings, or will their prices go up(marketing hype) or down (being 2nd tier relative to new Amd cards)? Did mobile kepler get delayed, and if so why, and when is the projected release? Thanks for any info

 

yes, all spec same as 580m except id/name/number/code
interesting is, today morning both 670/675m original thread closed......

 

i guess then the only thing left to do is wait and see what kinda punch the 680M has to offer

 

It would be silly to wait for 680m if it's not a Kepler.

 

Lots of silly people out there, just look at all the people who own 580m's when the 6990m is so much cheaper.

 

True, I think I would get 580m just because it's less heat, more overclock head room and already 5-10% better perf .

nVidia told us we will see 3-4x the performance per watt with Kepler, but in reality it's probably 2x per $. If 680m is just another Fermi, it's gonna be beat by a mid-high end Kepler, thus not worth the money unless it gets a price drop.

 

what would be so silly about that? i dont think anybody here cares about the chip architecture or layout as long as the performance values are right and a 20-30% perf boost over the 485M could already be worth an upgrade!

well of course, but the question is: WHEN will we actually see Kepler in mobile gpu cards? i highly doubt it being released in 2012, when the 680M is set for a summer/fall release. so ud have to wait at least till Q2 13 for an architecture change.

cheers

 

heh i guess so . But I'm coming from a 4820TG, and if I can, people with a Clevo can .

I think if Kepler is not out by April, I'm going with AMD.

Is the 6990m in the np1850 user replaceable? On the option it states "User upgradeable" on the GTX 580M but not the 6990m, does this mean that the 6990m is not on a MXM 3.0B board/slot that can be replaced with another?

Well Damn, will it being released alongside Maxwell arch? lol

I doubt Q2 TBH, at latest I think would be feb, they're not THATT behind.

 

the NP8150/P150HM sports a MXM 3.0b slot, so all gpu cards offered with that laptop have to be of the same MXM version (thus 580M and 6990M both are MXM 3.0b cards). u can throw in whatever 3.0b card u like, as long as its supported TDP and BIOS/EC-wise.

cheers

 

Cool, thanks.
Just didn't know why 580M showed "User Upgradeable" and 6990m didn't scary

 

i dunno. the plans presented so far probably only apply to desktop gpus. its not that uncommon for the mobile chips to be one generation behind their desktop counterparts concerning their architecture. and if the rumors and leaks are true concerning the 600 series to be Fermi (albeit with a possible die-shrink), then a potential 700 series with Kepler chips wouldnt be widely available until spring 2013. so yeah, lets hope that the AMD 7000 series will already be GCN and kick some performance-wise

cheers

 

So wait for AMD's 7000 series?

Do you think the 7000s will still be cheaper than the 675m rebadges? Perf per $ wise

 

pure speculation at this point, so no idea ^^ but AMD has been known to offer the "wiser" choice in mobile gpus when its about bang per buck. we´ll see!

 

The rest of the AMD 7000M series will be GCN. That much has been guaranteed by the company.

 

I think a new arch just sounds better than a 28nm rebadge of fermi, which probably wasn't well thought out for the new lithography. I think the 7970 will beat the 6990 and 675m in performance, but not the 680m. Let's just hope it's cheaper too.

 

My question is, the showcase website info for p1[57]0em doesn't list anything about AMD, just nVidia, so will Clevo not even have 7000M options when these parts are released, or are they trying to hide information/it's an old listing.

 

Your guess is just as good as anyone's.

 

gtx680m will be 28nm fermi(gf114m)
amd hd7900m still not sure

that's what ive heard on the road, anyhow...take it for what it is

 

makes sense, if the 675M is just a rebadged 580M that already maxxes out the 100W TDP envelope. so the 680M would have a die shrink and higher clocks, thus being a "tuned" 580M...

 

Yeah that makes sense, and maybe a 685m and 690m will be released later too.

 

Simply a 28nm 580M is unacceptable, maybe insulting.

If the 680M is a 28nm Fermi, it better be coming from the GTX 560 Ti 448, or ideally a GTX 570.

 

i know, we all are still hoping for something better..... :-/ like a kick-a** 7000M series

 

wow, the ivy and kepler threads are getting less and less optimistic with each passing day. looks like there's no big breakthrough on the horizon... not yet. One thing I'm positive is the AMD 79x0M cards will surely be based of the desktop 7000 series.

 

Clevo can't announce or list anything which AMD still has under NDA.

 

Is it under NDA to have "next-generation AMD GPU" on their listing?

 

When will the ndas be lifted?

 

That's all varying and up to the manufacturers of the products, March 6-12(Cebit) will probably be the lifting date of most products/parts, but not necessarily availability date.

 

I just googled Southern Islands for the hell of it, and I found the Wiki for the AMD gpu's and some exciting info about the 7000m series, but I don't know how credible it is.

Comparison of AMD graphics processing units - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

By the looks of it, the 7950m will still beat up the 6990m , and the 7970m will rapist it, the 7990m will probably kill it(Whenever they decide to put it out).


I hope this info is true or the they turn out to be even better =o.nah ;0

 

oh wow, max. TDP for the 7970M is just 65W? that basically screams for a 7990M (and/or some nice OC potential? ^^)! cant wait added to that the 1536 cores as compared to the 6990´s 1200.... 37% perf boost? make that 47% compared to my [email protected] crap that cant be right lol gets my hopes up tho, especially in light of the (probably) very disappointing 600M series....

edit: oh wait, they`ll use PCIe 3.0 as opposed to 2.1.....i wonder how much that would affect performance if installed in a SB-gen laptop....

 

None, pcgameshardware.de tested pcie 3.0 vs pcie 2.1 and the result was no difference.. the card used was the 7970m

 

2.1 - 3.0 ; Probably not much for a mobile card.

IDK these specs seem too good to be true , but if they are.. daaayyummm

Haven't found any sources about these parts except on Wikipedia, so I'm taking it with a grain of ground black pepper

 

ummm wait they already tested the 7970M? now that cant be right....u got a link for that?

 

sry i meant 7970 haha

 

Finally some good news and rumors from the Amd front, to help mitigate the IB Delays & Nvidia rebadging rumors. Pity that we won't get any definitive news till Cebit in a week from now.. It's a tad worrisome that there have been no leaks or reports about the upcoming GCN mobile lineup, does Amd always keep things so tightly under wraps? Doesn't seem like a brilliant business maneuver to stifle speculation and hype for your next big release, especially if the "competition" is just spewing out rebadged last decade technology.

 

Leaks can kills the current sales of a product line in technology. As soon as rumors start rumbling that you only need to wait a few weeks or months for the next best thing, sales take a cliff-dive.

 

Those Wikipedia numbers are in the ballpark, but they're completely bogus.

 

Yep, this is why Ivy Bridge is being delayed. Intel needs to get rid of all their SB CPUs. Their sales numbers are down because people are holding off buying (Myself included) until the new release.

nVidia is prepping for their release which is why 580Ms are disappearing.

Another reason they're not talking is because, AMD may have released their product to the market sooner, but that gives nVidia a chance to see where their competition sits and 1-up them.

 

Fixed it.

10char

 

I personally say that the GPU of choice that the flagship will revolve around would probably have to be the 7870 or 7890 that's rumored to come out.

A mobile GPU that has roughly 1408 shaders (7970M) will grant an exceptional performance boost over the current flagship, the 6990M. Then after that, they bring in the 7990M which brings the higher 1536 shader count and improved clock speeds. Just like they did with the 6970M and 6990M.

 

I got really fed up and decided to just go-all-out and bought the rig in my signature this week. Its so frustrating with all of the subtrafuge and the hush-hush of the NDAs, i just figured it wasnt worth it to wait for so many "what-ifs".

 

How much did that cost you, 3k?

I'm going to try to keep 2.2k for a17" performance rig so I can buy an ultrabook from Clevo too. It's gonna be pretty sweet having two laptops, I find myself wishing I had a smaller laptop to pull and carry around with ease, but then I need great performance and okay portability.